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Barangay Ginebra Kings: Thread XXIV

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  • ameleensyameleensy Member PEx Expert 🎖️
    edited January 18
    ^ Exactly. He owes it to the team to have consistently good games. Hindi yun favor. Because otherwise, ang daming tao na pwedeng maghati-hati sa PT nya. Utang na loob 🙄 (of course, hindi naman ako basketball pundit. Coach Tim must know what he's doing, hello. Just saying that as a fan of Ginebra as a team and specific athletes in many diff sports, kay Scottie lang ako nasusuka sa pagka-narcissistic)
  • Greenarrow12Greenarrow12 Hail! Hail! Hail! PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐


    So si Justin pa rin pala sa Kume Cup. If si Justin pa rin, need talaga natin si CSH dito. Sorry to say pero binigay na natin lahat ng pagkakataon ke Greg. Instead magimprove ang skillset for the past 6 years, nagdeteriorate eh. He can’t even dominate Hodge. Sa finals na lang, kita nyo rin naman gaano kasakit sa mata nilaro nya.

    Regarding Boiboi, mataas talaga expectations natin dito. Hindi naman kagaya ni Teytey yan na dapat eh temper lang kasi yan kaya inannoint as heir apparent ni Cagi. Di pwede yung numero nyan madalas eh numerong pangbangko lang. The reason why kinuha ni Cone si Stanley eh wala mapiga sa kanya before pag wala na si LA sa loob simula nung Gov’s Cup 2018 Magnolia series. Thus, nagease ang pressure ke La pati na rin sa kanya. Ni hindi rin nagcrecreate ng shots eh unlike La and Stanley. 
  • ameleensyameleensy Member PEx Expert 🎖️


    The reason why kinuha ni Cone si Stanley eh wala mapiga sa kanya before pag wala na si LA sa loob simula nung Gov’s Cup 2018 Magnolia series. Thus, nagease ang pressure ke La pati na rin sa kanya. Ni hindi rin nagcrecreate ng shots eh unlike La and Stanley. 
    Totoo. 
  • Greenarrow12Greenarrow12 Hail! Hail! Hail! PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐

    Tim Cone pays tribute to assistant coaches for title no. 22

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     January 18, 2020

    When Ginebra head coach Tim Cone was called to the court to give his speech Friday evening at the SM Mall of Asia Arena, the 22-time PBA champion coach made sure that he did not go alone.

    “Coach Richard [Del Rosario], Coach Freddie [Abuda], Coach Kirk [Collier], and Coach Olsen [Racela], come over here,” said Cone, who patted everyone on the back.

    “They deserve all the credit for this one.”

    For the last four months of 2019, Cone, 62, had been wearing two hats — one as head coach of Ginebra and another as chief tactician of Gilas Pilipinas Men’s.

    He would be the first to admit that his focus at that time was with Gilas as he did not want to suffer another heartbreak in his second stint with the national team. And the four assistant coaches made sure that Ginebra won’t be left behind, handling the practices of the Gin Kings at Upper Deck in Ortigas.

    “It was difficult in the fact that we had, you know, our whole team involved in Southeast Asian Games and we had to turn around and play the semifinals quick, but the break before the semi-finals kind of got us a chance to catch our breath and prepare better for the finals,” recalled Cone as Gilas eventually dominated the Southeast Asian Games last December.

    “And I think just the idea, the honor of playing the Southeast Asian Games kind of lifted our spirits and the fact that we did well there and we kind of carried over the momentum into the series. You know, because the whole staff was there, the whole starting lineup basically was there.”

    But even in the Finals against Meralco, the quartet continued to step up for Cone.

    After suffering a Game Two loss that knotted the series, Cone’s think-tank eventually pitched idea after idea to him. And he was fascinated by all of it.

    “By the way, let me just add that we made three key just key adjustments in this series — actually today in this game, but earlier also in the series — and I just want to say every one of them came from Richard del Rosario. Came from his ideas. I get all the credit for it. Everybody said, ‘Wow, coach Tim makes such great adjustments’ when I’m not doing any. I just want to add that because he made some incredible adjustments in the game,” disclosed Cone.

    “And, you know, it’s up to me to decide whether to you know, to prioritize it, take it, discard it because we’re getting ideas from you know, coach Olsen, coach Kirk, coach Freddie, we get them all ideas from everybody.”

    The adjustments?

    It included Scottie Thompson, who stands at 6-foot-flat, guarding Chris Newsome, who was bulkier and two inches taller than him. Then there was exposing Durham on defense, forcing the Meralco import to guard the quicker Ginebra backcourt.

    “I can go on and on. But you know, just those are some of the key examples of things that you know… I got so many things to think about. I can’t think about them all,” Cone continued.

    “That’s why you have a staff and, and I rely on Richard. I just think he’s a great adjustment coach. He just sees the game really well.”


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    Class Act. 🙌🏼🙌🏼

  • brunomamba24brunomamba24 PEx Rookie ⭐
    edited January 18
    Ramdam mo kase gusto nya mag laro at maka tulong kaso maganda ni lalaro ni japeth , nakay CTC naman kase yan pwde naman nya pag sabayin pa minsan minsan yun dalawa ngayon  pag di effective di palit ng tao pang gulat lang ba ...Sa  current line up ng ginebra plus kung sakali un tatlong rookies marami kang game plan strategies na pwdeng gawin ...Swak na swak si arvin tolentino sa ginebra 6'5 bruiser may post move at angas sa loob ,shooting sa labas pwdeng kapalitan ni art sa small forward, yun balanza 6'3 guard 16 pts per game last season nya sa letran parang rey nambatac ang laro sana......at si syempre yung kent salado playmaker na mala johnny A daw ang galawan kaya kahit walang ng trade palagay ko kaya naten makipag sabayan sa sanmiguel ...yun ibang team di kona iniintindi wala naman silang legit bigman ng gaya ni junmar ..pag na depenshan mo na perimeter shooters nila alam na,live  by the 3s mga yan kaya pag malas Olats...
  • alleinstevenalleinsteven PEx Rookie ⭐


    So si Justin pa rin pala sa Kume Cup. If si Justin pa rin, need talaga natin si CSH dito. Sorry to say pero binigay na natin lahat ng pagkakataon ke Greg. Instead magimprove ang skillset for the past 6 years, nagdeteriorate eh. He can’t even dominate Hodge. Sa finals na lang, kita nyo rin naman gaano kasakit sa mata nilaro nya.

    Regarding Boiboi, mataas talaga expectations natin dito. Hindi naman kagaya ni Teytey yan na dapat eh temper lang kasi yan kaya inannoint as heir apparent ni Cagi. Di pwede yung numero nyan madalas eh numerong pangbangko lang. The reason why kinuha ni Cone si Stanley eh wala mapiga sa kanya before pag wala na si LA sa loob simula nung Gov’s Cup 2018 Magnolia series. Thus, nagease ang pressure ke La pati na rin sa kanya. Ni hindi rin nagcrecreate ng shots eh unlike La and Stanley. 
    Maybe alam ni CTC na may trade na gagawin? 🤔 kasi kung si greg lang uli, mahihirapan na naman si brownlee.. 

    if mapupunta si CS sa ginebra, kung kay aljob sira laro ni durham, kay CS pa kaya, if ito uli magharap, baka 4-0 na. Haha

    Wag n kayo umasa kay skati n mging face ng ginebra, tingin ko, its Pringle team na.. tama sabi nung isa lagi dito nung pinagtatangol natin si skati nun, di talaga sya star player, role player lang...
  • cb36cb36 Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Wow nice discussion mga kabs at ito ay para sa ikakaganda ng team natin lalo na sa mainit na target natin ay ang All Filipino Cup.
    As much as we wanted to have signifant change with Ginebra lalo na ngayon that we are aiming for an AFC title and a possible grandslam tingin ko hinid magtatapon ng star player si Tim Cone.Mas mahalaga pa rin sa kanya ang chemistry ng team.
  • Ako din, GS for CS lang ako. If not, stay na lang sya.

    Pero I highly recommend na matrade na sya before Phil Cup.

    Aminin natin, sya na lang ang weakness natin. Kaya tayo hirap sa Mags at TNT kasi mabibilis ang Bigs nila. Kaya din tayo natatalo sa series sa 2 team na to. At akala ko sa Bolts, magagamit sya ng husto. Di rin. 

    Imagine kung si CS ang kasama ni Japeth. Mabilis na rin bigs natin at kaya rin tapatan si JMF. 
  • cb36cb36 Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    As far as Greg is concern,tingin ko hindi bibitawan ni CTC yan.Kung hindi nyo kabisado si Tim Cone,yung mga naging bigmen nya sa Alaska hindi rin naman kalakasan at masasabing mga average players like like Juinio,Ramas,Alex Araneta,Bolado at pwera na lang kay Hawkins na legit star hindi basta magpapakawala ng bigmen yan.
    Sa Bmeg wala syang ginalaw sa line up kaya naka grandslam sya so ito pa kaya sa Ginebra na kumpleto rekados na.
    Maaaring hindi ganun kaganda ang performance ni Slaughter pero iba pa rin yung mga legitimate threat ka sa ilalim.
    Eto lang mga kabs kung bibitawan mo si Slaughter sa ngayon in favor of Standhardinger,nakakasiguro ba ang Ginebra na kapag SMB ang nakalaban sa finals sa AFC kaya natin silang talunin,di ba hindi.
    Di pa nga natin alam kung magkiclick si C tan sa sistema natin eh.
    Where as sa present line up natin with Slaughter,sigurado ako at lalaban ako ng pustahan na kaya nating talunin ang SMB basta wala lang maiinjured sa line up natin.
    Kung hindi man SMB makalaban natin just in case in the finals in AFC eh andyan naman si Japeth Aguilar,nahihinaan pa ba tayo kay Japeth.Lalo pa andyan na si Stanley Pringle na sya yung magiging anchor natin sa opensa na ginagawa ni Brownlee para sa atin.
    Isa pa andyan na yung magagaling nating mga rookies na jelling lang at chemistry with the team ang kailangan and we are ready to fight.
  • cb36cb36 Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Yung sa akin bonus na lang kung mapupunta sa atin si Standhardinger but sorry not with the expense of the twin towers.
    It sounds greedy pero kung makukuha naman sa deal why not or else wag na lang.
    Ganun lang ka simple.
  • brunomamba24brunomamba24 PEx Rookie ⭐
    edited January 18
    Agree naman ako sayo kabs cb36 at maganda rin yun performance assessment ni jess24 about greggy boi on what he can brings to ginebra , kung ano kaya nyang gawin at hinde .kahit ako ayaw ko mawala isa sa twin towers naten ...medyo nakaka lungkot lang kase na di na madalas pinag sasabay yun dalawa na na pwde naman gawin paminsan minsan mabigyan lang kase ng tamang play .on the other side naman kaya ko gusto yun stanhardinger masipag bruiser mala Hatfield bagay na bagay sa ginebra parang yun panahon ni the tank noli locsin ang bumangga giba...
  • Sa akin kung makakakuha tyo ng tipong Vic Manuel at ang kapalit ay si Raymond Aguilar plus filler, pwede na... Or makuha natin si cs kapalit boiboi ok na ako dun. 
  • brunomamba24brunomamba24 PEx Rookie ⭐
    Sa totoong lang naman ..walang problema sa frontline ng ginebra kahit kelan with the towers di tayo na dehado sa ibang teams kahit sanmiguel pa yan...kaya tayo natatalo pag di gumana shooters pag di naka sabay mga guards ng ginebra kaya kung totoong may ibubuga yun mga bagong rookies tutal kaka champion lang wala na sa munang major trade maganda na naman chemistry ng team sana lang mag experiment naman si CTC ng bagong strategy wag naman lage triangle ...square naman :lol:
  • Kaya natin talunin ang SMB with Greg in the line up. Kaso ang problema, di tayo umaabot sa kanila dahil nilalaglag tayo ng Mags and/or TNT. S 2 team na yan, plus ngayon pati Bolts, nakikita ko na weakness si GS.

    Saka malilipat din naman si CS. Gusto nyo ba na sa Mags pa sya mapunta? Di lalo na magkakaproblema tayo.
  • jazzperjazzper In Your Mind PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    BPC+FMVP sa isang isang team??? San ka pa. Tingin ko kasado na yan. Isa pa gusto kong itrade si art dela cruz + filler kay vic manuel. Pareho namang injury prone so fair trade yan. Hehehe
  • brunomamba24brunomamba24 PEx Rookie ⭐
    edited January 18
    Caperal , Sargent,R.agular plus 2 second round picks kay  vic manuel tutal matagal na gusto mag pa trade nyan ...
  • brunomamba24brunomamba24 PEx Rookie ⭐
    edited January 18
    Yung kagaya ni Matthew Wright ang kailangan naten !!! Baka naman....:lol:
  • brunomamba24brunomamba24 PEx Rookie ⭐
    Natalo tayo ng mags nung mga panahon wala pa si Stanley Pringle..kung TNT naman problema e kita mo ba lineup nila ngaun syam ang guards nyan ...kung babalik yun kumpyansa ni chan at dillinger kaya naten talunin yan 3D lang naman kulang naten isa pa sobrang swerte lang din naman yan TNT pag kalaban ginebra lalo yun pogoy ..
  • lebronwade214lebronwade214 PEx Rookie ⭐
    Kaya tayo natalo sa mags nung all filipino wala na tayo masandalan pag olats si la,  Greg di mkaporma kay reavis tinatakbuhan lang tayo, si japeth pahirapan makaiskor, di makadistribute ng bola si la dahil sa depensa. Ngayon may Pringle na tayo kahit si baroks di to kaya hirap pa sundutan once hawak niya bola tatalsik ka talaga. TNT kaya natin to sa afc mas malakas pa mags dyan, natalo tayo niyan sa series may import sila malaki walang makadepensa sa kanya. Sa smb lang talaga tayo hirap powerhouse pa din cla, sa current lineup natin ngayon kahit si Matthew wright lang idagdag mo kakayanin natin smb. Kahit abueva lang ipartner mo kay japeth mahihirapan na yan smb satin. Tama yung isa kung Cstan tas smb makaharap walang kasiguraduhan na tatalunin natin sila, madali mabasa laro ni cstan baka alam na ng smb kung pano cya depensahan. Satin nga di umubra yan party sa loob sina japeth at Greg against Northport.
  • lebronwade214lebronwade214 PEx Rookie ⭐
    Kahit di na Cstan dalhin sa Gins kahit Matthew Wright tapos retain mo si Greg, sama mo Perkins bagay sa sistema ni ctc mala jdv din yan. Mahihirapan na yan smb satin, mahirap pakawalan si Matthew wright ng Phoenix. Pagsamahin mo wright at Pringle parehas scorer tapos may japeth ka pa at la, cguro kahit smb mahihirapan satin. Retain la, japeth, Greg, boiboi, Pringle,  mark(retired) trade kahit sino sa natira basta makuha si wright:lol:

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