Jasperbad wrote: »
kailangang imulat ang mga LGBT sa kanilang mga mapanirang gawa at mga pang aabuso laban sa lipunan.
panis_na_puto wrote: »
Hindi lahat ng LGBTI ay mapanira at mapang-abuso.
pong_padour wrote: »
Mas marami pang isyu at problema ang dapat pagtuunan ng pansin at paglaanan ng pondo at panahon ng gobyerno hindi ang pagkasal ng dalawang bekki. :glee:
Feeling nyo naman api kayo lagi. :glee:
Gustong pagbigyang sumali sa Ms. Universe.
Gustong matawag na "woman" once nagpaputol ng ari.
Gustong makasal sa kapwa bekki.
Gustong may sariling CR.
Takteng yan. Uunahin pa ba kayo?! :rotfl:
Arte lang yan.
Namamatay na sa gutom ang ibang mahihirap tapos kayo pa uunahin.
Solusyunan muna ang kahirapan at matigil ang korapsyon bago dyan sa kapritso nyo.
panis_na_puto wrote: »
Sa Pinas dapat FOI ang priority! Susunod palakasin ang anti-trust laws! Nang mabawasan ang kurakot sa pamahalaan at pumasok ang puhunan galing sa ibang bansa!
Susunod divorce at marriage equality....
Nils wrote: »
lol! These Liberal movements came after society developed enough that in can afford to consider these matters as the next important things. Developing countries will just stunt their growth if they spend time and resources on these things before they fix other more pressing problems. Prioritize things that would help more people become financially independent first. Handle these resource drains later when the country has excess resources to play with.
So yes, pa-sosyal lang yang mga yan dito sa Pinas.
F-A Soldier wrote: »
Lahat naman ng mga modern things we do were once considered "liberal" ideas.
If you read the actual documents written by politicians and world leaders trying to squash democracy (17th-18thc), they were really afraid at the time of these "liberal" ideas.
Back then the same folks: church, the rich, the 'conservatives' were banging the gongs, talking about the end of the world as we know it. :glee:
Look it's true that not all things that come out from the West or things we consider modern don't mean to apply to all countries and all situations, in the same way. That's true, but understand MAJORITY of all the things you now have and use are from "liberal" modern ideas once considered taboo at one point.
If not the people that created them were. Ie if you're using the computer, mind that the father of modern computing is a gay man and the guy that started the world wide web (ie the dude that open sourced it from US military) is a liberal English scientist.
As for "prioritize first" that's just a cop out excuse I hear all the time (like if they don't like a law to that someone's pushing, they'll say red herrings "but there's this blah blah for starving children, you must not be for starving children if you're for this" and funnily in a separate future discussion if you say "let's feed the children" they'll go no thanks it's their parents fault :glee: ie whatever works for their point then and there).
It's true that there are certain things that developing countries need to work on...but that's assuming that it's a zero sum game and that govt.'s can only legislate one law at a time. :glee:
It's like well..."we have to work on sewers first therefore we can't have free speech okay?"
Most hilarious part is if you actually check the bureaucrats and the legislative does. If you look at their schedules (and how efficient their working ethics and efficiency in the chamber) and the laws the pass (including many that obviously aren't even forwarded past committees) many of them are BS fluffer paperwork. :glee: Seriously, read some of the law proposal that senators/representatives push forward that aren't read in the chamber. A lot of them are balognas. Yet for some reason the argument is "we have precious time we can't consider this right now".
Nils wrote: »
It's not about what the politicians can be bothered to talk about. It's about resources that will be spent on these 'issues'.
Just look at the software requirements right now in the first world. They require accessibility for disabled people. Do you know how many man-hours is needed to make each and every user accessible page in an ERP to become blind-friendly? There are ERP software out there with thousands of pages and each and everyone has to be checked if a blind user can easily navigate and use them. It would be much cheaper and logical in a developing country to have someone assist a blind user instead of putting up that requirement for government software. I sincerely doubt that there would be non-first world countries who would be giving blind people data entry positions or admin positions for their software systems.
Another example is 'humanitarian jails'. That's funny. Why make the the punishment lighter? Why make the inmates' lives better? They already eat 3 times a day and have a roof over their heads and thousands of law abiding citizens can't even afford both. Where would a government spend its resources? On the liberal idea that prisoners should be treated better or helping those later and saving them from turning into criminals?
Alpha_Green wrote: »
Same sex marriage
Legalization of abortion
Legalization of marijuana
Legalization of gambling/ prostitution
Right to be topless
Full front feminism
Full LGBT support
All organized religion sucks
Atheism is the best
At kung ano ano pa...
Feeling sosyal ba o feeling intellectual ang mga Filipino sa suma samg ayon sa karmihan mga ideya na ito na nagsimula sa kanluran? O may dahilan naman? Ano opinyon niyo?
the only liberal notion i dont support, is abortion.
to me that is murder of an innocent child. kahit embryo pa lang yan, its already a living being...