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Ano Ang Hinaharap Sa Practical Nursing?

GrundigGrundig Makna oontaplo PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
edited May 22 in Pinoy Nursing
ano ba ang pinagkaiba ng PN sa Certified Nursing Aide(CNA)?

Does USA or UK accepts Licensed Practical Nurses?






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  • traumatrauma Member PExer
    I had a relative in the US who finished a NA (to become a CNA) in 1 1/2 months.
    LPN or LVN are licensed practical nurses of licensed vocational nurses. Their training is about 1 year and they perform a lot of Nursing fucntions except for some medications. They are also less likely hired in hospitals (more in long-term care and nursing homes). You have to take an exam NCLEX-PN (practical version of NCLEX-RN) in the state you want to work. I think there's a lot of these kind of positions/jobs but since these are not considered professional positions (even high school American grads can do this) I don't know if they sponsor from overseas. But if you are already in the US, it might be a quicker alternative (although lower-paying) to being a RN.
  • CoolCucumberCoolCucumber HEALTH.FREAK.WANNABE. PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Any good schools that offer practical nursing? Eto kasi gusto ng kapatid ko eh. :help:


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  • purply_hazypurply_hazy taken...not stirred PExer
    as far as i know, unless you already are a citizen e useless if practical nursing ang kukunin mo since the US hires only RNs from the Philippines. i think the BSN route would still be better, but if that really is your option, ACSAT, STI, and AMA all have practical nursing.
  • purply_hazypurply_hazy taken...not stirred PExer
    There are no work visas available for an LPN. The only way that you could be sponsored with the LPN license in the US is if you graduated from an RN program and passed the CGFNS exam for the Visa Screen Certificate, but were unable to pass the RN exam

    taken from a reliable source
  • CoolCucumberCoolCucumber HEALTH.FREAK.WANNABE. PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    ^Ganun:?:

    Eh bakit naman kaya nagpo-promote pa ang AMA ng ganitong course...


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  • pau2xxxpau2xxx Member PExer
    AMA needs to earn that's why....
  • purply_hazypurply_hazy taken...not stirred PExer
    ^^

    ehehe.. naalala ko tuloy yung joke sakin. dahil sa mayaman na si Manny Pacquiao e baka sa susunod e mayroon na tayong makitang School of Boxing!!!
  • pau2xxxpau2xxx Member PExer
    ^^who knows AMA might offer it especially if there would be a lot of Filipino Champions winning different boxing bouts left and right AMA might do it and have Freddie Roach ( tama ba spelling? ) as their Dean.....
  • riAbabyriAbaby Ya need heals? PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    i am a practical nurse here in the us and as far as my experience being one, konti lang ang pinagkaiba ng rn. we actually do the same job and we have the same responsibilities. meron din kaming license that we have to protect and saying it is not considered a professional education is simply wrong. we took a board exam too for crying out loud. it's not just a certification or a diploma. we may not be regarded as with a level as high ng rn pero ang lamang lang nila is they can hang antibiotics, do a thorough assessment and iba pa na nasa scope of practice nila. LVN's or LPN's actually call and talk to MD's, pass meds, take orders from MD's and carries them out, hang IV's for hydration, do blood work, check blood sugars and administer insulins, get specimen samples and follow-up labs, assess patients, give vaccines/ shots, do wound care, insert foleys and nasogastric tubes and also chart and do paperworks. i can actually insert a gt feeding na na-dislodged pero of course with doctor's order using a gtube or foley catheter (as an example). sa nursing homes kasi, MD's visit once a month lang and everything is actually ran by the LVN's and other supervisors. mas kilala namin ang pasyente kesa kilala sila ng doctor. sometimes kami pa ang tinatanong and nagsa-suggest sa MD kung ano ang tama para sa pasyente.
    we may not be earning as much as they do but we earn a decent living. the RN program is only two years dito (because of the pre-requisites that you have to take) and the LVN program is one year. bugbog ako sa clinical training and academics since you have to learn nursing skills in one year. and believe me, it is not very easy.

    it's true that LVN's are usually hired in nursing homes instead of hospitals. nursing homes are somewhat the territory of LVN's and hospitals are for RN's. but as far as my experience takes me, mas skillful ang LVN's compared sa RN's (no offense meant). more on paperworks sila at yan din ang sabi ng mga kilala ko na RN's. supervisor ko nga RN na for years di man lang marunong magtrabaho sa floor. i have 30 patients that i have to take care of in one day and hindi biro if 2 or 3 of them suddenly gets sick or crashes. imagine doing cpr dahil full code sila.

    if you plan on taking it as a course, i do encourage you. of course di naman forever na LVN ka, syempre you have to aim for something higher ( like being an RN, a Nurse Practitioner or Physician Assistant..pwede ring Physician kung kaya diba). i just want to say that for you to be able to have a better career, you have to start from somewhere.
  • riAbabyriAbaby Ya need heals? PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    the difference naman ng CNA sa LVN is that CNA's are under the LVN's supervision. CNA's take the vital signs, feed the patients, answer the call lights, change them (diaper), give showers and make the beds, turn and reposition patients. they also have to go to school (di ko lang sure for how many weeks) and they get a certificate. they have to learn how to transfer a patient from bed to wheelchair, use the hoyer lift to transfer patients, and learn proper body mechanics kasi nga they do so much lifting. yes, they're the ones na nagpupunas ng poop and you have to have the stomach ('ika nga) to do this kind of job. i really commend the CNA's kasi mahirap ang trabaho nila. they usually take care of 8-9 patients in a day (sa nursing home setting) and most of them are incontinent of bowel and bladder. lahat yun papaliguan, pakakainin, bibihisan (ADLs) etc. di biro na mag-alaga ng pasyente na mas malaki pa sayo. sila ang backbone namin sa nursing homes. anything na may changes sa pasyente na napansin nila, like decrease in meal percentage intake, nire-report nila sa LVN's or RN's kasi indication yun na there might be something wrong. theyre very important kasi sila ang nakaabang sa needs ng pasyente.
  • shox920shox920 Slightly Green Minded PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    Any review centers here in manila or in makati or in ortigas that offers NCLEX-PN?
  • shox920shox920 Slightly Green Minded PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    Totoo ba na hahawakan na din daw ng PRC ang Practical Nursing?
  • shox920shox920 Slightly Green Minded PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    ‘Practical nursing’ course opposed
    March 24, 2008 05:12:00
    Beverly T. Natividad
    Philippine Daily Inquirer

    MANILA, Philippines—The Philippine Nurses Association Inc. (PNA) has urged the Commission on Higher Education (CHEd) to remove a new course for “Practical Nurses” because it was misleading students into thinking it would qualify them for work in hospitals abroad.

    In a statement, the PNA said it opposed the CHEd’s insertion of the “Practical Nursing” program under a new “ladderized” education scheme that aims to bridge the gap between vocational-technical training and a college degree.

    “[The PNA] strongly objects to the institution of the Practical Nursing (PN) program and vehemently rejects the insertion of PN by CHEd through a proposed ladderization of the nursing curriculum,” it said.

    PNA national president Leah Paquiz said the program misled many nurses into believing that if they graduated from this Practical Nursing program, they could work as nurses abroad. In fact, she said, there is no local or foreign demand for the position of “practical nurse.”

    The most, the graduates of this course will end up as nursing assistants, the PNA said.

    What local and foreign hospitals are looking for, she said, were professional nurses and not “practical nurses.”

    (Galing po ito sa Inquirer.net)

    Discrimination na yata ito? Kase talaga naman maraming nag eenroll ng PN course ngayon
  • shox920shox920 Slightly Green Minded PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    Supply, Demand, and Use of Licensed Practical Nurses


    An LPN (pictured above) receives a different license than an RN does, but the current nursing shortage may mean that more and more LPNs will be utilized to fill open RN positions.

    Health Resources and Services Administration

    July 30, 2007

    Although licensed practical nurses (LPNs) organized into professional groups as early as 1941, there is little in the literature about the practice, work, demand for, or efficient utilization of the licensed practical nurse. There also is little guidance about how to make effective use of these practitioners’ skills to enhance patient care and augment the nurse workforce. Recently there has been an increased interest in trying new care delivery models in acute care hospitals using LPNs (Kenney, 2001) . In the 1990s, publications explored the creative use of LPNs in critical care, as advice nurses, and in intravenous therapy teams (Buccini, 1994; Ingersoll, 1995; Intravenous Nurses Society, 1997; Eriksen, 1992;Roth, 1993). However, little systematic study has occurred to explore these roles.
    Related Links

    * Article: Licensed Practical Nurses
    * Don’t have the money to fund your LPN education? NursingLink can connect you with scholarships.
    * Want to become a Licensed Practical Nurse? Search nursing school programs here.

    This study examines the demand, supply, utilization, and scope of practice of LPNs in the United States. Particular attention is paid to educational issues, career mobility, geographic distribution, and the ability of LPNs to substitute for registered nurses. The research team analyzed data from the Bureau of the Census, American Hospital Association, National Council of State Boards of Nursing, and Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services to learn about LPN characteristics, education, and employment. Scope of practice information was obtained and characterized to learn how practice regulations vary nationally and how they affect the demand for LPNs. Key informant interviews and focus groups were conducted in four States: California, Iowa, Louisiana, and Massachusetts. The findings of the study are provided in this report.

    Data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics’s Current Population Survey to describe the demographic characteristics of LPNs, was compared to registered nurses (RNs) from 1984 to 2001. The data indicate the following similarities and differences between LPNs and RNs.

    Similarities:

    * Both workforces are aging, with LPNs being slightly older than RNs on average;
    * Males represent a small percent of both workforces, but are slowly increasing;
    * The western region of the U.S. has the lowest numbers of LPNs and RNs relative to the population;
    * On average, RNs and LPNs work between 36 and 38 hours per week;
    * The shares of RNs and LPNs working in offices and clinics of physicians doubled between 1984 and 2001; and
    * The hourly pay rate of RNs and LPNs increased 19 percent between 1984 and 2001.

    Differences:

    * The RN workforce is larger than the LPN workforce, but the actual size of the LPN workforce is unclear because the available data are conflicting;
    * Compared to RNs, more LPNs live in the South and fewer in the Northeast;
    * Fewer LPNs are foreign-born, whereas an increasing percent of RNs are immigrants;
    * RNs work in hospitals in greater proportions than LPNs, and the share of LPNs working in hospitals declined more than RNs between 1984 and 2001;
    * The percent of LPNs working in nursing and personal care facilities increased between 1984 and 2001, but the percent of RNs did not; and
    * By 2001, the percentage of LPNs working in the private sector was greater than the percent of RNs working in the private sector.

    State boards of nursing regulate the practice of LPNs. Most States have a single board that oversees RNs and LPNs. Some States have separate boards for RNs and LPNs. The boards are responsible for developing scope of practice regulations and issuing licenses. They also have disciplinary responsibility and can revoke licenses. There are similarities in the nursing practice acts across States, but variation in how the States express the details of the work of practical nurses. Most States have relatively flexible practice requirements and not very specific about the tasks that are permitted. However, some States have very restrictive practice regulations and/or specific detailing of tasks that can and cannot be done by practical nurses. These data are used in Chapter 5 to examine whether the restrictiveness and specificity of the scope of practice affect demand for LPNs. These data suggest that it may be possible to identify States that could reasonably increase their utilization of practical nurses, particularly in hospitals, by reducing the restrictiveness of their practice.

    Since the 1990s, the number of LPN education programs has remained relatively stable but there has been a decline in the number of enrolled students and graduates. Despite the drop in graduates, the total number of active licenses increased slightly through the 1990s. This suggests that LPNs are remaining in the workforce at higher rates than in previous years. The number of first time US-educated graduates who are taking the LPN licensing examination has dropped, but the percentage of those passing the examination has remained relatively constant.

    LPN educational requirements vary among the States and territories. Most States specify the content and number of hours of training, and some are more detailed than others. Most curricula teach similar basic nursing skills, such as measuring vital signs, patient data collection, patient care and comfort measures, and oral medication administration. Most States have additional training requirements for more advanced skills, such as phlebotomy, IV infusion, and IV medication administration. Even though requirements vary across States, States generally license LPNs that have been licensed in other States without further requirement.

    Key informant interviews with leaders of State boards of nursing, LPN education programs, hospitals, and nursing homes allowed us to compare the actual practice of LPNs with the written regulations. State nursing board leaders are aware of the differences in scope of practice regulations across States, and do not find these differences troublesome. They also recognize that employers establish their own internal practice guidelines, which may be more restrictive than the legal scope of practice. Some hospital and education leaders think their States’ scopes of practice are too restrictive. Nursing home leaders agreed that LPNs are essential to the provision of care in their facilities; the scope of practice of LPNs is perfectly suited to the needs of their patients. Hospital leaders varied in their willingness to employ LPNs. Most recognized that experienced, intelligent LPNs could be an asset to a nursing care team, but found that the scope of practice of LPNs was too limited to allow for significant employment of LPNs in acute care settings.

    Participants in the focus groups discussed their perceptions of their scope of practice, which occasionally differed from State regulations. Most of the LPNs Stated an intention to return to school to become RNs, but few were enrolled in RN programs. Barriers such as time, the need to keep working, challenges in getting into courses, and family issues were among those that kept LPNs from pursuing further education. Most LPNs and RNs felt they have good working relationships with each other. Some LPNs expressed resentment about the higher wages paid to RNs for what is seen by the LPNs as similar work. Other LPNs said they did not envy RNs, because RNs have a greater amount of paperwork to complete and thus have less time to be with patients. Some RNs expressed discontent about the need to supervise LPNs because supervision adds to their workload.

    The Link:

    http://www.nursinglink.com/careers/664-supply-demand-and-use-of-licensed-practical-nurses
  • geekheadgeekhead El Kapitan PExer
    There's no future for students taking LPN. There's not even a LPN licensure exam here and it's practically impossible to work in the US as a LPN.

    http://allnurses.com/forums/f235/please-read-lpn-programs-philippines-285730.html
  • the_registrarthe_registrar Banned by Admin PExer
    magcaregiver na lang kayo
  • orangepinkorangepink orange != pink PExer
    LPNs are needed but i don't think hospitals are willing to petition you for that. LPNs do the same thing as nurses except giving IV push, etc.
  • shox920shox920 Slightly Green Minded PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    I have a friend graduate ng PN sa st. augustine, nag rereview siya now for nclex-pn tapos mag take din daw siya i-elts kase requirement daw yon sa isang hospital sa Washington DC....
  • janejanejanejane Member PExer
    question lng po. if ever naggraduate na ako sa st. augustine pwede ko ba i2loy to sa ibang college dito sa philippines like feu or ust para magkaroon ako ng bachelors degree in nursing? sabi kc ng st augustine pwede daw. maccredit daw halos lahat ng subjects nila so 2 year nlang daw sa college magkakaroon na ako ng bachelors degree. totoo po ba to?
  • shox920shox920 Slightly Green Minded PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    PNA called Practical Nursing "Illegal" Wow! Tinding paratang ito..

    Illegal ba dito sa Pinas?

    Pero bakit may NCLEX-PN?

    If you search the internet, ang daming hiring for LPN/LVN sa abroad particularly sa US

    Some of my relatives in the US told me that LPN/LVN profession really exist in the US

    PNA nag mi-mislead lang... are they threatened?

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