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Luck vs Skill.Is luck a bigger factor than skill when it comes to success?

jeganrrjeganrr PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
Naalala ko yung naging immigrant na mga Pinoy sa ibang bansa.Kasi diba kaya rin sila mas umasenso compared sa maraming Pinoy or karamihan ng mga Pinoy because of luck?Siyempre puwede mo ring sabihin na umasenso sila because of skill.Pero para sa inyo mas malaki bang factor ang luck kaysa skill kaya sila umasenso?Kahit sa mga ibang tao na naging successful hindi lang mga immigrant na Pinoy,do you think luck is a bigger factor than skill?

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  • Constable_KittenConstable_Kitten PEx Rookie ⭐
    edited June 28
    Siguro may kasamang luck. I was thinking noong bago ako sa Canada, madami nakabili ng bahay due to the 2008 real estate market crash. Ngayon 2020 grabe na ang inflation saka mas mahigpit na ang rules. Mura lahat noon, ngayon mahal na lahat pero walang pagbabago masyado sa sweldo. 
  • pong_padourpong_padour PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    edited June 28
    Luck plus the collective decisions you've made everyday, but most part is attributed to skills especially if you're an athlete. Di ko na maalala kung san ko nabasa or napanood yang nagsabi nyan. He said "success is making the right decisions most of the time."
  • IronHandofJusticeIronHandofJustice Member PEx Guru 🎖️🎖️
    Luck isn't the same as OPPORTUNITY. I think that's what you meant in your example.

    Answering the question though, you can only be immensely successfully with skills/habits.
  • BigDickSteveBigDickSteve PEx Rookie ⭐
    edited June 28
    I say 70% skills, 30% luck. Believe me, if si Bill Gates and Steve Jobs ay ipinanganak taong 90's, malaki ang possibility hindi magiging billionaire sila. If nagkataon din na wala ang YouTube or social media, yung mga naging super millionaire ngayon dahil sa youtube/social media ay ordinary lang buhay nila now. It's called luck. Pero mas malaki ang factor and mas important ang skills kesa luck dahil ang skills pede mo gamitin anytime, ang luck pana panahon lang, sasabay ka sa ihip ng hangin at daloy ng dagat.


  • jeganrrjeganrr PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Luck isn't the same as OPPORTUNITY. I think that's what you meant in your example.

    Answering the question though, you can only be immensely successfully with skills/habits.
    Pero diba overlapping naman ang luck at opportunity?For example,meron isang Pinoy wala naman siyang access sa America,pero meron siyang na-meet na babae na merong access sa America na hindi naman niya alam na may access pala siya sa America tapos napangasawa niya yung babae na yun kaya siya nakapunta sa America,diba luck ang tawag dun?
  • hsusonhsuson PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    edited June 28
    Bill Gates would not be a Billionaire without luck...lots of it.

    When IBM wanted an OS to run on their first PC, tamang-tama Gates knew a small time programmer who had one ready. 

    He bought it cheap (about $20K) tweaked it a bit, and presented it to IBM. It was called DOS.

    Second lucky break ni Gates is when IBM allowed him to sell DOS to other computer makers.  Normally, IBM demands exclusivity, but in this rare case they did not.  Lucky lucky.

    This ensured his Billionaire status. :)
  • pong_padourpong_padour PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    edited June 28
    Si Gary Kildall sana ang richest person dati if he wasn't away flying his private plane when IBM reps went to his house. 
    Ayun, binenta tuloy ni Bill Gates yung knock-off/clone operating system ni Killdall from  Seattle Computers and copyrighted/licensed it.
    Not really 100% sure about that story pero kung totoo man, sayang.

    https://bookjelly.com/the-tragic-story-of-gary-kildall/

    Same with the 3rd co-founder or Apple
     Who sold his share of the company for a few hundred dollars lang a few months after it was founded which is now valued several billions.


    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/02/why-ronald-wayne-sold-his-10-percent-stake-in-apple-for-800-dollars.html



  • Burt_MacklinBurt_Macklin PExer
    edited June 29
    Read Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell. He made a point about Bill Gate's success being due to a lot of luck. His argument is that Gates (and he made this same argument about people born at specific years close to when Gates was born) was lucky to be living with and knowing people (like fellow billionaire and MS cofounder, Paul Allen) , as early as elementary school and HS, who had access to early mass market computers and learned programming at very young age. Because of that he had plenty of experience with computers by the time he was in college ie around the time that America started to really integrate digital technology/computers.
    He made other arguments about "chance" that only happened historically out of sheer coincidences like why Jewish lawyers in NYC became so successful in corporate mergers (he thinks that it had to do with demographics of Great Depression in US).
    Of course NOTHING is 100% luck (an absolutely nothing is 100% skill/effort either---you can even argue some skills are also based on luck ie genetics).
    There are a lot of criticism of Gladwell, but that book is probably one of the better books that talk about nature vs. nurture and even in a bigger conversation in that subject including luck vs. skill.
  • BigDickSteveBigDickSteve PEx Rookie ⭐
    edited June 29
    Pero kahit anong lucky ng tao kung lack of skills hindi naman magiging billionaire, i love to believe each person created himself. Genius actually si Gates. Genius brain nasamahan pa ng luck.




  • BigDickSteveBigDickSteve PEx Rookie ⭐
    edited June 29
    Huge success is not acquired by accident just because swerte ka lang, especially if nasa tech field ka, hindi ka papayamanin ng sobra ng luck mo if lack of skills ka.

    Gaano ba katalino si Bill Gates? Ito ang sabi ng isang Professor sa Harvard University and described Bill Gates as Smartest person he has ever met.

  • BusilakBusilak PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    I think it's a combination of both. In addition to the examples cited by others,  Lea Salonga, she's talented but she's also lucky when Miss Saigon was produced when she was at the right age, it was the break that gave her international exposure. And she was able to survive and maintain her international career because of her talent .
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