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ElCid's over-milked recycled trash against Atheists

logitextlogitext PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
edited July 31 in Realm of Thought
The veteran Pexer known as Elcid loves to demonize atheists.
Every time he talks about atheists, the accusation below blurts out.
He must have milked this close to a hundred times already. 
But is it a legit allegation? We shall see.

ElCid said:
Kinikilabutan pa daw sa patayan ilang libong taon ng nakararaan mapulaan lang ang mga mananampalataya samantalang sila kung pumatay 100 MILYON nito lang nakaraang siglo - hind sila kinikilabutan?  Kase kapwa nila mga ateo yung mamamatay tao?

Here is his basis for such allegations:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes#Estimates


Unfortunately in his hate he overlooked these parts:

According to Soviet historian J. Arch Getty, over half of the 100 million deaths attributed to communism were due to famine.


Benjamin Valentino writes: "Although not all the deaths due to famine in these cases were intentional, communist leaders directed the worst effects of famine against their suspected enemies and used hunger as a weapon to force millions of people to conform to the directives of the state".


Authors including Seumas Milne and Jon Wiener have criticized the emphasis on communism and the exclusion of colonialism when assigning blame for famines. Milne argues that if the Soviets are considered responsible for deaths caused by famine in the 1920s and 1930s, then Britain would be responsible for as many as 30 million deaths in India from famine during the 19th century, lamenting: "There is a much-lauded Black Book of Communism, but no such comprehensive indictment of the colonial record"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes#Debate_on_famines


So it seems Elcid's allegation is pure propaganda. Recycled trash.

But in fairness this would be a more reasonable allegation against 20th century communists:

Kinikilabutan pa daw sa patayan ilang libong taon ng nakararaan mapulaan lang ang mga mananampalataya samantalang sila kung pumatay 55 MILYON nito lang nakaraang siglo - hind sila kinikilabutan?  Kase kapwa nila mga ateo yung mamamatay tao?


Here is the math, and estimates that justifies 55 million:

100 million alleged death 
-55 million famine death (over half of the allegation)
+10 million intentional famine death against suspected enemies (thats a lot of suspected enemies. i'm being generous)


So historically about 55 million deaths can be reasonably blamed against to atheistic communism.


ElCid, time to change your tune buddy! ;)


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  • ElCidElCid Roman Catholic PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    edited August 1
    ^ We already had a debate about this.  You lost.  You admitted that the evidence is credible.  But this is not surprising since you are intellectually dishonest and would like to keep your convoluted and skewed view of reality where atheists are comparable to virtuous catholic saints lol.  An illustration of this dishonesty is when you argued that the Japanese are theist because they are shinto at another moment they are atheist since they are buddhist lol.  The fact is most Japanese are shinto and buddhist at the same time - that would make the Japanese schizophrenic if you ask logitext.  

    What is the actual BS is his recycling of the Rwanda Massacre and he keeps on involving all Catholics in Rwanda lol since he can't find any other in the magnitude of 100 million killed and massacred by atheist communists.  And he even tried to dismiss the memorial to this by the United States Congress itself: 

    The Victims of Communism Memorial is a memorial in Washington, D.C. located at the intersection of Massachusetts and New Jersey Avenues and G Street, NW, two blocks from Union Station and within view of the U.S. Capitol.[1]

    The memorial is dedicated "to the more than one hundred million victims of communism". The Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation says the purpose of the memorial is to ensure "that the history of communist tyranny will be taught to future generations."[2]

    A bill, H.R. 3000, sponsored by Representatives Dana Rohrabacher and Tom Lantos and Senators Claiborne Pell and Jesse Helms, to authorize the memorial passed unanimously on December 17, 1993 and was signed into law by President Bill Clinton, becoming Public Law 103-199 Section 905. Because of delays in establishing the memorial, the authorization was subsequently extended through Section 326 of Public Law 105-277, approved October 21, 1998, until December 17, 2007. The Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation has the duty of funding and directing the first stages of planning the memorial.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victims_of_Communism_Memorial


    This liar would like to change history itself and would like to erase the memory of those killed and murdered under atheists regimes.  Shame on you.  Evidence spits on your face logitext.  I don't have to change my tune.  We already debated on this.  Move on loser.  You just dug your grave a bit more deeper with this thread.  And I do not have to demonize atheists - I have not heard of demons murdering more than 100 million people.  Your kind is probably worse than demons in that respect.  

    For logitext, the memory of the 100 million people murdered by his kind is recycled trash.  What kind of person would say something despicable like this?

  • KidlatNgayonKidlatNgayon Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Parang wala namang logic itong si logitext, "overmilked" daw kaya gumawa pa ng separate thread. Parang ikinalat pa yung apoy imbes na patigilin. :lol:  
  • logitextlogitext PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    edited August 1
    "victims" is too general. It does not necessarily mean murders.

    Sorry, Elcid, try again.


    ElCid said:

    What is the actual BS is his recycling of the Rwanda Massacre and he keeps on involving all Catholics in Rwanda lol since he can't find any other in the magnitude of 100 million killed and massacred by atheist communists. 

    Oh come on how many types have I mentioned that? One for the debate and maybe 2 other times.

    3 times is too much for you? Is it too much to swallow the fact that hate can turn your beloved priests into mass murderers?

    But what you are doing is spreading hate against atheists based on false propaganda.
    Be careful. If hate can turn nuns into genocidal maniacs, hate can also turn you into a murderer.  :s



    Elcid, what you need is Jesus. Try accepting him as lord and savior, and be born again. Perhaps that will make you a better person. Less hateful. :D









  • ElCidElCid Roman Catholic PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    edited August 2
    logitext said:
    "victims" is too general. It does not necessarily mean murders.

    Sorry, Elcid, try again.


    ElCid said:

    What is the actual BS is his recycling of the Rwanda Massacre and he keeps on involving all Catholics in Rwanda lol since he can't find any other in the magnitude of 100 million killed and massacred by atheist communists. 
    Oh come on how many types have I mentioned that? One for the debate and maybe 2 other times.

    3 times is too much for you? Is it too much to swallow the fact that hate can turn your beloved priests into mass murderers?

    But what you are doing is spreading hate against atheists based on false propaganda.
    Be careful. If hate can turn nuns into genocidal maniacs, hate can also turn you into a murderer.  :s

    Elcid, what you need is Jesus. Try accepting him as lord and savior, and be born again. Perhaps that will make you a better person. Less hateful. :D

    You can argue your terms with George Bush since he clarified what victim means. The 'FALSE PROPAGANDA' IS COMING FROM GEORGE BUSH. He's got more credibility than you:

    During the opening ceremony, President George W. Bush named some of those who suffered from Communism in anonymity:

    They include innocent Ukrainians starved to death in Stalin's Great Famine; or Russians killed in Stalin's purges; Lithuanians and Latvians and Estonians loaded onto cattle cars and deported to Arctic death camps of Soviet Communism. They include Chinese killed in the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution; Cambodians slain in Pol Pot's Killing Fields; East Germans shot attempting to scale the Berlin Wall in order to make it to freedom; Poles massacred in the Katyn Forest; and Ethiopians slaughtered in the "Red Terror"; Miskito Indians murdered by Nicaragua's Sandinista dictatorship; and Cuban balseros who drowned escaping tyranny.[3]

    President Bush also said, "We'll never know the names of all who perished, but at this sacred place, communism's unknown victims will be consecrated to history and remembered forever. We dedicate this memorial because we have an obligation to those who died, to acknowledge their lives and honor their memory."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victims_of_Communism_Memorial

    What is more sickening here is you find 55 million murdered people acceptable:

    So historically about 55 million deaths can be reasonably blamed against to atheistic communism.

    That's macabre, grisly, twisted, insane on your part.  It tells a lot of what kind of person you are.  Blame it all on a few priests and the funeral for Mussolini but turn a blind eye on mass murder by your own kind.  Well I do hate what evil people do - especially those who have no regard for human lives.  You love them because you are sick in the head.  You are the one who needs conversion since you have a twisted sense of reality:  55M acceptable and reasonable murders by atheists regimes?  Atheist mass murderer defender in PEX. Dig a deeper grave for yourself.

  • logitextlogitext PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    edited August 2
    ^ That liar George W Bush who destroyed Iraq and murdered 20,000 innocent civilians based on his lie that Saddam was harboring WMD 

    Besides he said "includes". Of course the 'victims' includes those who were murdered. Doesnt mean all 100 million were victims of murder.

    Try again Elcid. ;)
  • alchemistofophiralchemistofophir Christian Communist PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    edited August 3
    Ito ang surprise [email protected] sa inyo.

    Paano trinato ng dating Roman Empire ang mga early Christians? Parang pagtrato din ng mga Soviet Communist sa mga biktima nila, di ba?

    Ano ngayon ang Roman Empire? Roman Catholic.

    Ano ngayon ang Russia? Russian Orthodox.

    Sino si San Pedro? Unang Papa ng Roma.
    Sino si San Andres? Founder ng Russian Orthodox.

    Ano sila? Ang unang mga naging disipulo ng Panginoong Hesus na mga mangingisda.

    At ang kagandahan nito, since may mga umaalipusta, naninira, at gustong mawasak ang Simbahan, ano ang pwedeng Iactivate para mapatunayan na..

     Romans 12:19 
    New International Version
    Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," says the Lord.'

    ay totoo.

    So pag kinuha ng Russian Orthodox Church ang communism at kinuha ng Roman Catholic Church ang mga malulupit na Centurion ng Roman Empire,

    sino ngayon ang susunugin, igegenocide, papatayin ng maramihan, i-Tsa-Tsar Bomba at iperpersecute at ibubully at pagtritripan ng Russian Orthodox Church+Roman Catholic Church?

    Alam nyo ba kung bakit sinabi ng Panginoong Hesus na ang gates of Hell will not overcome the Church?

    kasi Hell will always be subordinate to the Church.

    So bakit uli nagpunta sa impyerno ang Panginoon pagkatapos syang ipako sa krus, magpunta sa lupa at sa langit at sa lupa uli?

    ano ang simbolismo ng pagpapako sa krus ng Panginoon? tinitira ang Lord nina San Pedro at San Andres.

    so sino ang mga demonyo? sino si Satanas? Bakit Morning Star ang gustong ipatandaan ng Panginoong Diyos kay San Juan?

    #nowyouknow

    Impyerno Sa Lupa?

    Sure.

    Kasi maraming mga [email protected] garbage sh1tter usurpers rebels and fakes..



    lel.

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  • alchemistofophiralchemistofophir Christian Communist PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    edited August 3
    at since MAGKAPATID sina San Pedro at San Andres, pwedeng pwede at posibleng posible ang Roman Catholic+Russian Orthodox CHURCH.

    so ano ang pinakadulo sa kanan ng pinagcombine na mga kontinente ng Asya at Europa? Russia, specifically Siberian Russia.

    at ano naman ang pinakadulo sa kaliwa?

    Portugal+Spain, na Roman Catholic hardcore.

    ano ang tawag sa pinagcombine na Portugal at Spain?

    Iberia.

    So yea?

    Siberia, Russian Orthodox
    Iberia, Roman Catholic

    So alam nyo na yung MAGKAPATID.

    So alam nyo na siguro na sa History ng Konstitusyon ng Pinas, sa Apat na concurrent versions, dumudulog lagi sa Diyos-Ama.

    at ano ang official Religion ng Pinas?

    Roman Catholic.

    Bakit Primus Inter Pares sa lahat ng Simbahang Katolika ang upuan ni San Pedro aka ng Unang Papa?

    So may lugar ba sa Pilipinas ang mga Ateista? May Lugar ba sa Pilipinas ang mga may pekeng relihiyon na may pekeng dios?

    so ano ang Separation of Church and State? kabobohan. kasi ano? Preamble ng Pilipinas => dumudulog sa Diyos-Ama. Ano ang dominant religion ng Pinas? Katolisismo.

    so ano yan, buo ang katawan at espiritu ng Pinas.

    Saan applicable ang Separation of Church and State? Tignan nyo sa Preamble ng US. Walang referencia or citing or shoutout sa Diyos-Ama doon. At ano ang religion(s) na dominante doon? iba't ibang sekta ng mga BASURANG Protestante at kung ano anong kalokohang relihiyon gaya ng Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster or Jedi Church or yung Dudeism Religion. Napala nila sa kalokohan nila at nagmukhang [email protected] ang mga nandun. isama nyo pa yung mga religion ng mga hind00ts na yan na Hinduism, Jainism, Buddhism, Sikhism, na ano? maraming mga diyosdiyosan, mga walang diyos na kalbo at yung mga kalokohan pang mga relihiyon nila.

    So ano mangyayari pag hiwalay ang katawan (state) sa espiritu (church), magmumukhang basurahang tinambakan ng [email protected] ang lugar na naniniwala jan.

    at yan ng basurang dala ng mga Britishitter Anglicans sa sagradong lugar ng America.

    bakit uli nagkaroon ng Anglicans?

    kasi yung hari nilang mukhang baboy, gusto ipawalang bisa ang kasal sa unang asawa at asawahin ang kinakalantari nito at di pinayagan ng Papa. Ano ginawa? Nagrebelde sa Roma, dineclare na Sya ang Head ng Simbahan sa Inglatera at tuluyang na excommunicate.

    Aka Inoverwrite ang Simbahan na dinala ni Augustine of Canterbury, na inatasan ng Papa noon.

    aka imbes na buwagin nya ang sinetup ng mga Katoliko doon at gumawa ng sa kanila, ng bago, parang ninakaw pa yung tinatag ng mga Katoliko.

    Aka nawalan ng guidance, ng connection, ng communion.

    tapos nagpunta pa sa America, gumawa ng USA at ano ang USA ngayon?

    Pinamumunuan ng isang [email protected] sh1t na Presidente.

    yeah, yan ang napapala ng ateisateismo nyo at pag wala kayo sa (mga) tamang RELIHIYON(es).



    so, doooooooooooooooooo youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu beeeeeeeeeeellllllllliiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeveeeeeeeeeeeeeeee?



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  • alchemistofophiralchemistofophir Christian Communist PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    edited August 4
    demonize atheists?

    you mean sending demons to the atheists to [email protected] them and torture them for eternity?

    yes. sigurado.

    so bakit nga uli pinepersecute ni San Pablo ang mga "Christians" na yan?

    pabaliktad na ba ang takbo ng Holy Bible?

    so bakit uli? Pihadong mga hindi Jesus Christians yan aka hindi sibol mula sa upuan ni San Pedro at sa kapatid nyang si San Andres.

    at ano uli ang laro ni Saint Elijah the Thunderer?

    kinakalaban at inaalipusta nya yung mga may pekeng dios.

    ano ang sabi sa Psalmos?

    Fools at substandard (walang magawang mabuti) daw yang mga nagsasabing walang Diyos.

    so ano talaga ang diperensya ng walang Diyos at may pekeng dios.

    pag nasa inyo ang Totoong Diyos, ang mga naniniwala sa pekeng dios ay walang pabor ng Totoong Diyos aka wala sila sa panig ng Totoong Diyos. aka wala na rin silang Diyos (na totoo), not by virtue of the atheist's pov but by the REJECTION against the atheist of Lord-God himself.

    so parepareho lang ang mga yan at kaya naiba para may diversity. gusto daw ng mga demonyo, iba't ibang [email protected]

    Di ba? Ganun lang naman kasimple. Pag ako yumaman, kayo ay ililibre.



    so atheists, carry on. wag na kayong magbago, k?

    so mga hind00t hind00ts, carry on. wag na rin kayong magpaconvert, k?

    so sa mga tinta tinta na yan, tingin nyo, Manalo errr pANALO kayo? carry on. kalat pa ng basura sa rot.

    so pag pinosporo ang basura, ilang hits?

    tatlo pataas, kasama na ang basura.



    lel.

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  • hello. baguhan po ako dito. 
  • ElCidElCid Roman Catholic PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    logitext said:
    ^ That liar George W Bush who destroyed Iraq and murdered 20,000 innocent civilians based on his lie that Saddam was harboring WMD 

    Besides he said "includes". Of course the 'victims' includes those who were murdered. Doesnt mean all 100 million were victims of murder.

    Try again Elcid. ;)
    Blame the US congress as well.  So are they all liars too?  Try again logitext.  This won't just go away with an ad hominem against a former US president:

    A bill, H.R. 3000, sponsored by Representatives Dana Rohrabacher and Tom Lantos and Senators Claiborne Pell and Jesse Helms, to authorize the memorial passed unanimously on December 17, 1993 and was signed into law by President Bill Clinton, becoming Public Law 103-199 Section 905. Because of delays in establishing the memorial, the authorization was subsequently extended through Section 326 of Public Law 105-277, approved October 21, 1998, until December 17, 2007. The Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation has the duty of funding and directing the first stages of planning the memorial.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victims_of_Communism_Memorial
  • logitextlogitext PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    Still doesnt say that the victims were all murdered
  • ElCidElCid Roman Catholic PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    edited August 7
    For the information of the defender of atheist communist atrocities in pex - famine especially man made, is also a form of murder and mass killing:

    Several mass killings occurred under 20th-century communist regimes. Death estimates vary widely, depending on the definitions of deaths included. The higher estimates of mass killings account for crimes against civilians by governments, including executions, destruction of population through man-made hunger and deaths during forced deportations, imprisonment and through forced labor. Terms used to define these killings include "mass killing", "democide", "politicide", "classicide" and a broad definition of "genocide".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes

    So their goes your cop-out.   It seems like the US congress is MILKING IT TOO.  Why don't you organize a rally and have the law repealed.  You must defend the rights of atheist mass murderers you see. Gwark
  • logitextlogitext PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    edited August 7

    Man-Made Hunger

    Thirty countries have already seen food riots this year. The ever higher cost of food could push tens of millions of people into abject poverty and starvation.

    To a large degree, this crisis is man-made — the result of misguided energy and farm policies. When President Bush and other heads of state of the Group of 8 leading industrial nations meet in Japan this week, they must accept their full share of responsibility and lay out clearly what they will do to address this crisis.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/06/opinion/06sun1.html


    No accusations of murder in there.

    Sorry but deaths by famine isnt murder unless you can prove that it was deliberate with the intention of killing people.


    And check this one out:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor#Genocide_question

    We learn the following:

    1. Only 1 man is blamed, Stalin. Not communists in general, and certainly not Atheists like what certain haters love to do in this forum.

    2. The deaths do not meet the definition of Genocide as defined by the U.N. So to use these man-made hungers to accuse atheists of murder is just false propaganda by haters. Recycled trash.

    Stop hating, Elcid.


  • ElCidElCid Roman Catholic PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    ^ This is not about hate and this is not about me.  This is about FACTS:

    • In his introduction to the Black Book of Communism (1999), Stéphane Courtois gave a "rough approximation, based on unofficial estimates" approaching 100 million killed.[o] In his foreword to the book, Martin Malia noted "a grand total of victims variously estimated by contributors to the volume at between 85 million and 100 million".[p]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes

    Go ahead and say that Stephane Courtois is a liar as well atheist mass murder defender.
  • ElCidElCid Roman Catholic PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    logitext said:

    Man-Made Hunger

    Thirty countries have already seen food riots this year. The ever higher cost of food could push tens of millions of people into abject poverty and starvation.

    To a large degree, this crisis is man-made — the result of misguided energy and farm policies. When President Bush and other heads of state of the Group of 8 leading industrial nations meet in Japan this week, they must accept their full share of responsibility and lay out clearly what they will do to address this crisis.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/06/opinion/06sun1.html


    No accusations of murder in there.

    Sorry but deaths by famine isnt murder unless you can prove that it was deliberate with the intention of killing people.


    And check this one out:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor#Genocide_question

    We learn the following:

    1. Only 1 man is blamed, Stalin. Not communists in general, and certainly not Atheists like what certain haters love to do in this forum.

    2. The deaths do not meet the definition of Genocide as defined by the U.N. So to use these man-made hungers to accuse atheists of murder is just false propaganda by haters. Recycled trash.

    Stop hating, Elcid.


    You can of course defend mass murderers and these facts fly in the face of your defense.  Famine was DELIBERATE carried out by atheist regimes:

    The Holodomor (Ukrainian: Голодомо́р;[a][2] derived from морити голодом, "to kill by starvation")[3][4][5] was a man-made famine in Soviet Ukraine in 1932 and 1933 that killed millions of Ukrainians. It is also known as the Terror-Famineand Famine-Genocide in Ukraine,[6][7][8] and sometimes referred to as the Great Famine[9] or the Ukrainian Genocide of 1932–33.[10] It was part of the wider Soviet famine of 1932–33, which affected the major grain-producing areas of the country. During the Holodomor, millions of inhabitants of Ukraine, the majority of whom were ethnic Ukrainians, died of starvation in a peacetime catastrophe unprecedented in the history of Ukraine.[11] Since 2006, the Holodomor has been recognized by Ukraine[12] and 15 other countries as a genocide of the Ukrainian people carried out by the Soviet government.[13]

    Early estimates of the death toll by scholars and government officials varied greatly.[14] According to higher estimates, up to 12 million[15] ethnic Ukrainians were said to have perished as a result of the famine. A U.N. joint statement signed by 25 countries in 2003 declared that 7–10 million perished.[16] Research has since narrowed the estimates to between 3.3[17] and 7.5[18] million. According to the findings of the Court of Appeal of Kiev in 2010, the demographic losses due to the famine amounted to 10 million, with 3.9 million direct famine deaths, and a further 6.1 million birth deficits.[19]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

  • Desert_DolphinDesert_Dolphin PEx Rookie ⭐
    logitext's appeal to hypocrisy and failed defense of atheism. 55million lang daw ang pinatay nila, hindi 100million. Ano yan, "atheists are only 55% mass murderers"?

    Some measures have given over 200million deaths. 100million deaths is somewhere around the average of these numbers. But still, these are horrible numbers. We are talking about MILLIONS OF LIVES LOST. But off course logitext won't get it since he demonstrated disregard to human lives.

    ElCid is milking this cow because it has good amount of milk. logitext, however, tries to milk his rooster and whatever comes out pass it on as milk.
  • logitextlogitext PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    logitext's appeal to hypocrisy and failed defense of atheism. 55million lang daw ang pinatay nila, hindi 100million. Ano yan, "atheists are only 55% mass murderers"?

    Some measures have given over 200million deaths. 100million deaths is somewhere around the average of these numbers. But still, these are horrible numbers. We are talking about MILLIONS OF LIVES LOST. But off course logitext won't get it since he demonstrated disregard to human lives.

    ElCid is milking this cow because it has good amount of milk. logitext, however, tries to milk his rooster and whatever comes out pass it on as milk.

    Yeah "they" killed 55 million. "They", as in Stalin, Mao and Khmer Rouge. 
    Dont blame all atheists for it, for we have NOTHING to do with that. Comprende, amigo? ;)
  • Desert_DolphinDesert_Dolphin PEx Rookie ⭐
    logitext said:
    logitext's appeal to hypocrisy and failed defense of atheism. 55million lang daw ang pinatay nila, hindi 100million. Ano yan, "atheists are only 55% mass murderers"?

    Some measures have given over 200million deaths. 100million deaths is somewhere around the average of these numbers. But still, these are horrible numbers. We are talking about MILLIONS OF LIVES LOST. But off course logitext won't get it since he demonstrated disregard to human lives.

    ElCid is milking this cow because it has good amount of milk. logitext, however, tries to milk his rooster and whatever comes out pass it on as milk.

    Yeah "they" killed 55 million. "They", as in Stalin, Mao and Khmer Rouge. 
    Dont blame all atheists for it, for we have NOTHING to do with that. Comprende, amigo? ;)
    Downplaying the massacres and trying to shift blame away from these men puts you right among them.
  • ElCidElCid Roman Catholic PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Downplaying the massacres and trying to shift blame away from these men puts you right among them.
    55 million butchered men, women and children is more acceptable than 100 million - DUH?
  • ElCidElCid Roman Catholic PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    logitext said:
    logitext's appeal to hypocrisy and failed defense of atheism. 55million lang daw ang pinatay nila, hindi 100million. Ano yan, "atheists are only 55% mass murderers"?

    Some measures have given over 200million deaths. 100million deaths is somewhere around the average of these numbers. But still, these are horrible numbers. We are talking about MILLIONS OF LIVES LOST. But off course logitext won't get it since he demonstrated disregard to human lives.

    ElCid is milking this cow because it has good amount of milk. logitext, however, tries to milk his rooster and whatever comes out pass it on as milk.

    Yeah "they" killed 55 million. "They", as in Stalin, Mao and Khmer Rouge. 
    Dont blame all atheists for it, for we have NOTHING to do with that. Comprende, amigo? ;)
    Downplaying the massacres and trying to shift blame away from these men puts you right among them.
    He is actually fond of manufacturing his own "facts" and this is a classic example.  

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