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Chinese vessel hit, sank Philippine boat in Recto Bank —Lorenzana



  • netopiannetopian Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐

    Ay hala! Kaya pala walang mga Judicial Affidavit.

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    No rush to file case against Chinese trawler crew, says Panelo

    MANILA, Philippines — The government is not rushing the filing of charges against the crew of the Chinese trawler that hit and sank a Philippine fishing boat in the South China Sea on June 9 despite the Philippine investigators’ finding that it was a “very serious marine casualty” event and not just a “little maritime accident,” as President Rodrigo Duterte has described it.

    Speaking on radio on Sunday, presidential spokesperson Salvador Panelo said the government must first see the Chinese investigation report before filing criminal and civil cases against the trawler’s crew.


    “We also have to check the findings of the Chinese, what their findings are, because if they admit that their crew is at fault, they have to be accountable,” Panelo said.

    China’s stance

    The government, he said, must also ascertain China’s stance on the case before taking further steps.

    “If they are willing to pay the compensation for whatever damage done and whatever damages suffered by our fishermen, we should also find out what their stand is. Otherwise, we will file charges against the crew,” he said.

    The owner of the Chinese trawler may face civil cases for damages, while criminal charges such as reckless imprudence resulting in damages may be brought against the crew of the vessel, he said.

  • fyrkrkrfyrkrkr Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐

    JUST IN: President Duterte’s public satisfaction rating reaches a new record-high, “very good” +68 in the latest Social Weather Stations survey.

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  • buddywbuddyw Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐

    The Philippines sided with China after a boat was rammed. Critics say it’s all about money. 

    MANILA — When a Chinese trawler rammed a Philippine fishing boat in the South China Sea last month — forcing 22 fishermen to abandon their stricken vessel — officials in Manila were quick with condemnations.

    “Cowardly,” the Philippines’ defense secretary said.

    Military commanders followed suit, telling reporters it was time for President Rodrigo Duterte to get tough with China after years of increasingly cozy ties.

    Instead, the Philippine leader sided with Beijing.

    Eight days after the sinking, Duterte dismissed the June 9 crash near Reed Bank as a “little maritime accident” and rebuffed the pleas of Philippine fishermen demanding a firmer stance to protect their crafts in the disputed South China Sea.

    “I’m sorry, but that’s how it is,” Duterte said.

    Then the defense secretary, Delfin Lorenzana, walked back his earlier statement, saying that perhaps the Chinese “didn’t mean to brush against our boat.” The boat’s captain joined in — saying he was no longer sure if they had been rammed at all.

    Manila’s flip-flop over the stranded fishermen — despite evidence in a coast guard report that the Chinese mariners acted inappropriately — shows how far the long-standing U.S. ally has fallen under Beijing’s spell.

      Greased by Chinese loans and grants under President Xi Jinping’s signature Belt and Road infrastructure program, the Duterte administration has warmed to its giant neighbor while playing down the dispute over their competing territorial claims in the South China Sea.

    Now the longer-range questions stand in sharp relief: How far will Duterte go to support his new friends in Beijing at the risk of isolating his key military ally, Washington?

    The Philippine government “has an incentive for this to be an accident,” Gregory B. Poling, ­director of the Asia Maritime Transparency Initiative, said of the boat incident.

    Manila’s approach, he said, is “predicated on the idea that if it’s just quiet about its claims and nice enough, Beijing will reciprocate” with investment and development assistance.

    Beijing claims sovereignty over almost all of the South China Sea, which connects East Asia with the Indian Ocean and is one of the world’s busiest trade routes. In recent years Beijing has occupied and built up disputed reefs and islets with runways, radar and military installations, prompting alarm from the United States and its allies.

    An international tribunal in 2016 upheld the Philippines’ claims to territorial waters. But China has shrugged off the ruling.

    To assert its territorial claims, China deploys what security experts refer to as the maritime militia — a paramilitary force of vessels that swarm disputed fishing grounds, conduct surveillance and prevent Philippine and other fishermen from accessing sandbars and reefs claimed by the Philippines and other littoral states.

    The militia “plays a major role in coercive activities to achieve China’s political goals without fighting,” the Pentagon said in a report in May.

    For Duterte’s critics, his meek response to the boat incident demonstrates the extent to which China has seduced him into compliance. Some accuse him of selling out his country.

      A senior Philippine navy official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the media, said he had logged the activities of China’s maritime militia every day for more than a year, but felt the reports he filed went nowhere.

    A former senior official at the Armed Forces West Command, the unit monitoring the South China Sea, said his Facebook feed is filled with laments from his contemporaries. “They feel their work has gone to waste,” he said, speaking on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue. “We worked so hard, just to let China do that to us.”

    Poling, the security analyst, said the Philippine navy and coast guard “have to sit there and grit their teeth, watching hundreds of Chinese boats act with impunity in Philippine waters.”

    After winning office in 2016, Duterte traveled to Beijing and declared he was ready to uncouple the Philippines from America.

    Xi repaid the favor late last year, visiting Manila and promising largesse for infrastructure projects and resources exploration — a familiar method China has rolled out across Asia, leaving some nations with burdensome debts. An online gambling industry in the Philippines catering to Chinese clientele is booming.

    Duterte, best known for a drug war that has left thousands dead, commonly reasons when answering criticism of his policy toward Beijing that the Philippines cannot afford war with China.

    “China just wants to be friends with us. They gave us arms, ammunition. I turned to them because America failed to deliver what we ordered,” Duterte said at a campaign rally in April. Neither the president’s office nor the defense secretary responded to requests for comment by The Washington Post.

    Under pressure from the West over his human rights record, Duterte “owes his political survival to China,” said independent security analyst Jose Custodio. “They’re his bread and butter.”

    In its report dated June 20, the Philippine coast guard said the Chinese trawler violated maritime laws and “failed to . . . avoid the risk of collision and to render assistance to a vessel in distress.” The Philippine fishermen in the Reed Bank crash were eventually rescued by a Vietnamese ship.

    Still, Duterte told reporters the crash was “very small because nobody died.” His spokesman said there was no contradiction between the report and the president’s statements.

    The Chinese Embassy said last month that its ship was “besieged by seven or eight Filipino fishing boats,” though satellite imagery cast doubt on that account. The Chinese side later suggested a joint investigation and rejected Philippine officials’ idea to involve a third party. Beijing has not released its own findings in full.

      China’s Foreign Ministry did not respond immediately to a request for comment on the incident, its maritime militia and its policy toward Manila.

    Sung Kim, the U.S. ambassador to the Philippines, called for full accountability for the Chinese crew involved in the incident.

    Public polls also show that Filipinos still trust the United States more than China. The military trains with the United States, and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has assured American intervention in the case of an attack. Last week, Philippine Foreign Secretary Teddy Locsin said the United States remains a “true friend” and “natural ally.”

    In the past, joint U.S.-Philippines military exercises involved situations responding to aggression in the South China Sea — but in remarks last month, Duterte said such activities could trigger a war.

    Despite frustration with Duterte’s approach, it is unlikely that military leadership will actively urge for a policy shift. Ranting in the halls is “as far as it will go,” said a senior armed forces official.

    Custodio, the security analyst, said China had gained the upper hand to the point where it did not need to fear that it was pushing Manila’s friendship.

    “They know they have the Philippines,” he said. “What happened in Reed Bank is China’s return on investment.”

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    93% of Filipinos see importance of regaining control of China-occupied islands – SWS

    MANILA, Philippines – Ninety-three percent of Filipinos believe that it is important that the government regain control over China-occupied islands in the West Philippine Sea (WPS), based on a Social Weather Stations (SWS) survey.

    In the survey, 1,200 Filipino adults were asked: In your opinion, is it important that the control of the islands that China currently occupies in the West Philippine Sea be given back to the Philippines?”

    Seventy-four percent of the respondents answered “very important” while 19 percent said it is “somewhat important.”

    Meanwhile, one percent answered “not at all important” and four percent were undecided on the issue.

    Government action

    The survey also asked about whether specific government moves and initiatives are “right” or “wrong” in resolving conflict between the Philippines and China about the WPS.

    Four specific activities, presented in random order, were tested.

    The survey showed that 89 percent said it is “not right” for the government “to leave China alone with its infrastructure and military presence in the claimed territories.”

    Meanwhile, 92 percent answered it is “right” for the government to “strengthen the military capability of the Philippines, especially the Navy.”

    Eighty-three percent of the respondents also said it is “right” for the government “to bring the issue to international organizations, like the United Nations or Association of Southeast Asian Nations, for a diplomatic and peaceful negotiation with China about the claimed territories.”

    Lastly, 84 percent said it is “right” for the government to “form alliances with other countries that are ready to help us in defending our security in the West Philippine Sea.”

    The survey used face-to-face interviews with 1,200 Filipino adults nationwide and has a sampling error margin ±3 percent for national percentages.

  • ImpenneteriImpenneteri  PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    edited July 2019
    When our President is not a lap dog he can blurt lines that are considered too forward and offensive but it's the truth.

    If USA is really keen on helping us they should have done it many years ago but of course they want our country to go first and then they react later. It was the reason why former DFA Sec. Del Rosario was so brave before because he thought USA would help but we all knew USA did nothing, they just watched as China built structures on the sea.

    Now instead of the usual Philippines asking for help with the USA, he's challenging the American government to be the one to fire the first attack and then we activate the mutual defense treaty we have with them. That is what should happen not the other way around. But until that moment happens Duterte will have peaceful relationship with China, because it is the LOGICAL thing to do. Hubris wouldn't get you anything you are just making China angrier, UN doesn't even care.

    Nakakatawa lang mga detractors ng government to be more aggressive against China, which is one of the most powerful if not the most powerful country in the world without any help. Ni squatter nga dyan sa Manila hindi mapaalis ng gobyerno yung China pa kaya. They are different but the general idea is the same. The issue is too complicated to just assert your right without careful thought and evaluation.
  • buddywbuddyw Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐

    Duterte says OFWs behind his soft stance on China: ‘Di pwedeng uminit ulo ko!

    President Rodrigo Duterte has pointed to overseas Filipino workers (OFWs) as the reason why he can’t take a hardline stance on China’s aggression in the South China Sea.

    In a speech during the Araw ng Pasasalamat for OFWs Friday (July 12), Duterte said he has to think of the estimated 400,000 OFWs working in China when it comes to dealing with the Asian superpower.

    “Itong mga politikong iba, gusto awayin ko. You know, ako okay lang. Palaaway man ako. Pero you know, I have to think of Filipinos everywhere,” he said.

    “In every country na may Pilipino, talagang pigil ako. Mainit — mainitin ang ulo ko pero ‘pag magdating diyan, kalma lang ako because there are so many Filipinos going abroad,” Duterte added.

    The President has been criticized for refusing to bring up the country’s win in an international arbitral court regarding China’s sweeping claims over the South China Sea.

    Duterte has repeatedly said there will come a time that he will bring up the arbitral ruling with Chinese President Xi Jinping, but he has yet to say when it will happen.

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    Carpio corrects Chinese shipowner: Reed Bank not part of Spratlys

    Reed Bank (Recto Bank) is not part of the Spratly Islands, Supreme Court Senior Associate Justice Antonio Carpio said, fact-checking a Chinese shipowner's apology to the fishermen who were abandoned in the sea for hours after his fishing boat rammed their vessel last June.

    The apology said that the Chinese fishing boat should take "major responsibility" for what it called an "accident" and requested the Philippines to file an appeal for civil compensation.

    The English translation of the letter referred to Reed Bank as being in the Nansha Island Group—the Chinese name for the Spratly Islands. The Philippines calls the Spratlys the Kalayaan Group of Islands.

    "Reed Bank is not part of the Spratly Islands. Only China claims Reed Bank is part of the Spratly Islands (Nansha to China)," Carpio said in a statement.

    "The arbitral tribunal ruled that Reed Bank is a completely submerged area, forming part of the Philippine EEZ (exclusive economic zone), beyond the territorial sea of any island in the Spratlys," he said, referring to the Permanent Court of Arbitration's (PCA) 2016 decision.

    According to the PCA, Reed Bank—Recto Bank to the Philippines and Liyue Tan to China—"is an entirely submerged reef formation that cannot give rise to maritime entitlements."

    What has come to be known as the Recto Bank incident happened on June 9, when a Chinese vessel hit the F/B Gem-Vir 1 and left the foundering boat's 22 crew members to the mercy of the sea for hours until a passing Vietnamese vessel rescued them.

    The shipowner's apology came as President Rodrigo Duterte was set to leave for a visit to China, where he said he would raise the incident, among others, in his meeting with Chinese leaders. 

  • gotta lick itgotta lick it Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐

    DuDirty in his another China State Visit ... to talk about the Spartlys

    kahit sinabi na nga mga Intsik ... NON-Negotiable.

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