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Chinese vessel hit, sank Philippine boat in Recto Bank —Lorenzana



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  • buddywbuddyw Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐

    How the Vietnamese rescued Pinoy fishermen rammed by Chinese vessel

    MANILA (UPDATE) - In the dead of night of June 9, most crew members of GEM-VIR1 were asleep, dog-tired from nearly 2 weeks of catching fish in the West Philippine Sea.

    Navigation lights illuminated their boat while it was berthed in the waters off Recto Bank (Reed Bank) near Palawan to avoid the risk of allision.

    The Filipino fishermen had set off from Occidental Mindoro on May 29 and were on their last day before heading home when a speeding Chinese fishing vessel was coming their way.

    JP Gordiones recalled he was roused from sleep because of the chaos and shouting. He and other crewmates rushed to the bow of the boat, moments before the foreign ship plowed them.

    "Akala ko po na panaginip lang pero 'yun pala totoo na," Gordiones said.

    (I thought it was just a dream, but it turned out to be true.)

    Meanwhile, Ramil Gregorio was in for a rude awakening and found himself submerged in cold water.

    "Paggising ko, lumubog na kami. Nagsigawan kami, 'Tulong! Tulong'," he said.

    (When I woke up, we were already sinking. We shouted, "Help! Help!")

    Boat captain Junel Insigne said the Chinese fishing vessel, identified by Chinese authorities as Yuemaobinyu 42212, stopped for a while and flashed its lights.

    "Nakita nila kaming lubog na, naglalanguyan na," he said.

    (They saw that the boat was sinking and we're floating in the water.)

    Instead of rescuing the distressed fishermen, the Chinese fishing vessel maneuvered in reverse and rushed off, Insigne recalled.

    "Akala ko tutulungan kami. Tinakbuhan pa kami."

    (I thought they were going to help us, but they abandoned us instead.)

    While the crew were struggling to stay afloat, they saw a gleam of hope some 5 miles away.

    Insigne asked Gordiones and Justine Pascual to row a small banca to ask for help from another vessel.

    It took the pair some 2 hours to reach the vessel, which they later found out to be manned by the Vietnamese.

    Gordiones and Pascual gestured that they had crewmates stuck at sea. The Vietnamese then came to aid the Filipino crew, rescued them and later gave them food.

    "Pinaakyat po kaming lahat. Doon kami pinakain, doon kami pinagpahinga muna, pinainom ng tubig. Sila nagtulong sa amin," he said.

    (They allowed us on their vessel. They fed us, let us rest, gave us water. They are the ones who helped us.)

    Asked how he knew of their nationality, Insigne said: "Sabi niya, 'Vietnam? Philippines? Friends.' Kaya alam kong Vietnam."

    (He said, "Vietnam? Philippines? Friends." That's why I knew they were from Vietnam.)

    Insigne remains puzzled why the Chinese fishing vessel rammed their boat unprovoked.

    The incident happened on a day declared as the annual commemoration of Filipino-Chinese Friendship Day in waters within the Philippines' exclusive economic zone in the disputed South China Sea, which China claims in near entirety.

    "Wala naman po kaming pineperwisyo sa kanila. Naghahanap-buhay naman po kami ng maayos," he said.

    (We are not causing them any trouble. We are simply trying to make a living.)

    The 22-man crew safely returned to their families Friday night. The incident may have left them badly shaken, but for them who rely on fishing for their livelihood, they may well go out to sea again before long.

  • gotta lick itgotta lick it Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    netopian said:
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    Bubuy Balangue


    Here is an actual photo of the Filipino vessel which got rammed.


    Unlike what is being reported by Richard Heydarian, among other destabilizers.



    tama yun PAID HACK, the boat did not sink but it is HALF SUNK.

    at least they are with US that the Chinese Ship RAMMED the Filipino Boat 

  • lechon xlechon x Olats PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐

    Jan 2019 -china put up a 'rescue center' kuno inside our EEZ in the WPS

    June 2019- they sink one of our boats & abandon the crew.

    WTF china

  • netopiannetopian Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
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    Darwin Cañete

    Let there be no mistake, the responsible crew should be held liable under Maritime Law. No question. The territorial dispute is irrelevant to that issue. The crew has liabilities which exist even if it happened in international waters.

    So far we have had press releases and conferences on the Reed Bank incident. Is anyone actually sending forensic experts and public lawyers to take the sworn testimony of the fishermen? Gumugulo kasi pa iba-iba yung detalye ng nangyari. Put it in black and white. You cannot hold the Chinese crew liable based on saliva. It has to be a written complaint.

  • netopiannetopian Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐

    The longer witnesses talk without putting their recollection in writing, the more they open themselves to being impeached by opposing counsel. Fresh recollections are always favored by the court as memories are notoriously unreliable as time moves on. Worse, extrajudicial statements can be presented against the witness if they are manifestly conflicting. If the fishermen eventually seek judicial recourse, whether in local or international tribunals, this procrastination might wind up hurting their case.

  • netopiannetopian Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐


    Kasabay ng pagtanggi makipag usap kay PRRD, sabay pasok naman ng OVP...

    Ibang klase talaga kayong mga dilawan...

  • buddywbuddyw Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐

    BREAKING: Palace to summon Chinese envoy over boat sinking

    MANILA, Philippines — Malacañang will summon Chinese Ambassador Zhao Jianhua to the Palace over the sinking of a Filipino boat at Recto Bank in the West Philippine Sea, INQUIRER.net learned Monday afternoon.

    The Security, Justice and Peace Cabinet Cluster and Economic Development Cabinet Cluster convened for roughly 3 hours Monday to discuss the incident. A highly-placed source present during the meeting said members of the Cabinet clusters ultimately agreed to call Zhao over to Malacañang to explain.

    Last June 9, a Chinese vessel reportedly rammed and eventually sunk an anchored Filipino boat at Recto Bank, and left all 22 fishermen in the open sea.

    More than a week since the incident, President Rodrigo Duterte has yet to publicly address the matter.

  • buddywbuddyw Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐

    ‘Chinese have no business fishing’ in the Philippines’ EEZ

    MANILA, Philippines — The Chinese “have no business” fishing in the country’s exclusive economic zone (EEZ).

    Former Solicitor General Florin Hilbay made this assertion Monday, following the reported incident involving a Chinese vessel ramming an anchored Filipino boat at Recto (Reed) Bank in the West Philippine Sea and abandoning the 22 Filipino fishermen there last June 9.

    The gas-rich Recto Bank is within the Philippines’ EEZ.

    “The incident happened in Reed Bank. Reed Bank is a fully-submerged area and based on the decision in Philippines versus China, which we won, there are no overlapping entitlements between the Philippines and China over the Reed Bank,” Hilbay said in an interview with ABS-CBN News Channel on Monday.

    “Because the Reed Bank is within our exclusive economic zone (EEZ), we’re the only ones who have the right to fish there. And so the Chinese have no business fishing in our exclusive economic zone,” he added.

    Hilbay was referring to the arbitration case won by the Philippines against China in July 2016. Hilbay, as Solicitor General during the administration of President Benigno S. Aquino III, was among those who led the country’s legal team when the case was being tackled at the Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague, Netherlands.

    The arbitration court invalidated China’s nine-dash line, which claims almost all of South China Sea, including waters within in EEZ of Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines (West Philippine Sea), Vietnam, and Taiwan.

    Chinese fishermen liable

    Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana has strongly condemned what he described as a “cowardly action” of the Chinese fishing vessel and its crew after it abandoned the Filipino fishermen in the open sea early this week.

    But the Chinese Embassy in Manila has denied there had been an incident of a “hit-and-run” and claimed the Chinese fishing vessel was suddenly “besieged” by seven or eight Philippine fishing boats. It also claimed the Chinese vessel’s “steel cable on the lighting grid” bumped into the Philippine boat’s pilothouse during its evacuation.

    Hilbay nevertheless said the Chinese vessel involved in the June 9 incident should be held accountable for the reported ramming – intentional or not.

    “The Filipino vessel was anchored, it was anchored on Philippine waters. Under the Philippine Constitution, the waters around and surrounding the Philippine archipelago are considered Philippine waters, and so the Filipinos had every right to be where they were, they were anchored, they were safe, and the ramming by the Chinese vessel of the Filipino vessel was of course… creates obligation on the part of the Chinese vessel,” he said.

    “My understanding is that the Chinese vessel is a private vessel, and so they are accountable for what they have done, whether or not it was intentional… you can set that aside because they left the Filipinos on their own, only to be saved by the Vietnamese,

  • lechon xlechon x Olats PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐

    Duterte: Banggaan lang ng barko iyan

    Nagsalita na si Pangulong Rodrigo Duterte kaugnay ng pagbangga ng Chinese vessel sa bangka ng mga Pilipinong mangingisda sa Recto Bank. Tinawag niya itong simpleng "maritime incident" at muling iginiit na hindi kayang makipaggiyera ng Pilipinas sa China. I-Bandila mo, Pia Gutierrez. - Bandila, Lunes, 17 Hunyo, 2019

  • gotta lick itgotta lick it Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐

    Federation of Filipino Chinese Chambers of Commerce and Industry Inc. President Henry Lim Bon Liong made it CLEAR, the P.L.E.D.G.E. of ASSISTANCE is does not mean CHINA is G.U.I.L.T. in the Maritime Incident ... aka ... HIT & RUN.

  • buddywbuddyw Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐

    Chinese trawler rammed our boat, sank it: Filipino fishermen

    Crew left floundering in waters; Chinese embassy says it's a maritime accident

    It was midnight on June 9. Mr Junel Insigne had claimed his small corner on the 14-tonne, wooden outrigger boat that had taken him and his crew of 21 fishermen more than 150km from their seaside town in Occidental Mindoro province in the Philippines.

    As he began to doze off, he heard the men yelling. A bigger vessel was bearing down on them. He stood up and tried to start his boat's engine but it was too late.

    There was a loud crash. His boat, the Gem-Vir, was wrenched from its moorings. It spun violently and was dragged briefly. Water entered through a hole on its stern and the boat began to sink, rear end first.

    Luckily, Mr Insigne, 43, had dropped anchor at a shallow seamount, called Reed Bank, in the South China Sea. A part of the boat's bow remained above the waterline. Most of his men clung to it. Others hung on to life rafts and whatever floating debris they could grab.

    From their perches, the men saw the boat that rammed them circle back and shine a bright light on them. It had a steel hull.

    They thought it would pluck them out of the water. Instead, it began to sail away, turning off the lights as it did.

    They were Chinese," Mr Insigne told reporters on Friday. "We have seen them before."

    He said he spotted a faint glow further out from where they were. He ordered two of his men to take the small outrigger canoe that their boat had been towing and paddle towards that light.

    He knew it was another fishing boat. But he was not sure if it was a "friendly" one or if it would remain there long enough for his men to reach it. "We were fortunate the sea was calm," he said.

    It took the two men two hours to reach the boat, which was from Vietnam. One of the men yelled: "Help me!"

    The Vietnamese boat headed to where the Gem-Vir had dropped anchor and plucked Mr Insigne and the rest of his crew from the water.

    He insists his boat was sunk intentionally. "We had most of our lights on. It was impossible for them not to have seen us," he said.

    The Chinese have told a different story.

    Last Thursday, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang characterised the incident as "an ordinary maritime traffic accident".

    A statement on the Facebook page of the Chinese embassy in Manila late on Friday insisted there was no such thing as a "hit and run".

    It said the fishing boat Yuemao-binyu 42212, from Guangdong province, was "besieged by seven or eight" Philippine fishing boats when it collided with the Gem-Vir.

    It was not clear if the Gem-Vir was among the boats "besieging" the Chinese vessel.

    The statement, which was later removed from Facebook, also said that Yuemaobinyu sought to rescue the Gem-Vir's crew but could not because it was being "besieged".

    It decided to leave, but not before its crew saw the men from Gem-Vir being rescued by the other boats.

    "That's a lie," Mr Felix de la Torre, the Gem-Vir's owner, told reporters. He said his men were consistent in telling him that the Chinese rammed their boat without provocation.

    Mr Insigne said there were no other boats around the location.

    Vice-Admiral Robert Empedrad, chief of the Philippine Navy, said: "The ship was rammed. This is not a normal maritime accident."

    The incident has inflamed nationalist sentiments in the Philippines.

    It is the latest confrontation involving China's vast fishing fleet, which experts say has been co-opted to serve as Beijing's militia and augment its constant coastguard presence in waters that are also claimed by Malaysia, Taiwan, Vietnam, the Philippines and Brunei. The incident occurred in parts of the South China Sea that the Philippines and China have been contesting.

    Reed Bank, which spans nearly 9,000 sq km, is believed to hold up to 5.4 billion barrels of oil and 55.1 trillion cu ft of natural gas.

    The Philippines has been trying to survey the area since 2003. But it had to suspend all drilling and exploration works in 2014, following skirmishes with China's maritime fleet.

    President Rodrigo Duterte's spokesman Salvador Panelo has described the Chinese trawler's act of abandoning the Gem-Vir's crew as "barbaric".

    Defence Secretary Delfin Lorenzana called it a "cowardly action".

    And Foreign Secretary Teodoro Locsin said Manila has lodged a diplomatic protest with Beijing.

    Yesterday, he announced on Twitter that the Philippines had sent a letter to the London-based International Maritime Organisation to "draw attention to the fact that the Filipino crew of the fishing vessel were callously abandoned to the elements on the rough seas and would have perished", had help not arrived just in time.

    For Mr de la Torre, the Gem-Vir's owner, the issue is about more than just losing his boat. "They should stop treating us like their servants. They should stop acting like they own the entire sea," he said, referring to the Chinese actions.

  • b0kn0yb0kn0y Member PEx Rookie ⭐
    duterte is a fake ***** tough guy.
  • buddywbuddyw Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐

    Setting records straight!


    In the thick of the controversy which followed the sinking of a Philippine fishing boat from San Jose, Occidental Mindoro in the Recto Bank, different versions of the story came out in the media.

    While the Department of Agriculture, under which the Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources belongs, defers to other competent agencies on the security and diplomatic issues involved in the incident, the DA would like to correct insinuations that the Filipino fishermen lied about their narratives.

    The DA has already submitted an official report to President Rody Duterte, through Executive Secretary Salvador Medialdea and Cabinet Secretary Karlo Nograles.

    For purposes of transparency and clarity, the DA addresses and provides answers to some questions raised based on data gathered.

    1. Was it really a Chinese vessel which hit F/B GEN-VER 1?

    Answer: The captain and crew of the fishing boat stated from the very beginning that they were hit by a Chinese boat. The Chinese initially said it was not certain but later on admitted that the vessel involved in the "ramming" or collision incident was indeed a Chinese boat.

    Whether it was an accidental collision or intentional ramming is an issue that is better resolved through the conduct of a maritime investigation.

    2. Did F/B GEN-VER 1 really sink after the collision? This was a question raised because the vessel was able to sail back to San Jose aided by the Philippine Navy and at least two other fishing boats.

    Answer: Yes, the captain and the crew said they had to jump into the water because their boat sank. A photo gathered by BFAR Director Elizer Salilig showed a sunken F/B GEN-VER 1 with its bow jutting out of the water. Rescuers later refloated the boat and repaired its damaged tailfin.

    3. If F/B GEN-VER 1 sank, why were the fishermen able to bring home their catch? (Additional explanation because this was raised by a follower of this page.)

    Answer: Typical Filipino fishing boats have fish holds in the middle portion of the vessel which is filled with ice blocks. That is where they keep the fish for days, even weeks, before sailing back to shore. I personally saw these fish holds in the fishing boats in Infanta, Quezon. It is far from the stern and was not damaged by the impact, apparently.

    4. Were any of the crewmembers hurt?

    Answer: No. All of them have returned to their families after they were given assistance by DA-BFAR. They also asked for help to avail of the fishing boats grant under President Duterte's F/B Pagbabago Program where poor fishing families are provided with boats and fishing gears.

    The DA-BFAR will schedule the distribution of the fishing boats very soon.

    The DA-BFAR hopes that this statement will clarify all issues.

    Thank you.

    Manny Piñol
    Agriculture Secretary

  • netopiannetopian Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐

    Steps to war. Hay naku US very obvious.

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  • netopiannetopian Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐

    Kapag media walang trauma, kapag Presidente ang kakausapin may trauma. Wait, what? 🤔


    They want PRRD to speak, but PRRD wants to talk to the captain of the ship first. Captain of the ship, who has been talking to the media, won't, may "trauma" raw. 🤔


    Kung gusto ninyong mabayaran, you have to prove in court that that happened. Eh meeting pa lang sa presidente umaatras na kayo?


    The captain backed out daw for fear of being arrested. Wait, tatanungin ka lang naman ng presidente kung anong nangyari? 🤔


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  • netopiannetopian Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐

    US kating kati kayo na gamitin ang PH bargaining chip vs CN no? 😁

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