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Peanut Gallery for Exclusive Debate: "There is evidence that God exists" (Elcid v.s. JuanTamad)

ElCidElCid Roman Catholic PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
edited May 31 in Realm of Thought
Main debate thread - Exclusive Debate:   "There is evidence that God exists" (Elcid v.s. JuanTamad)

Everyone is welcome to post in this thread as a reaction to the above-mentioned exclusive debate.
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  • JuanTamad_JuanTamad_ Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Affirmative:
    ElCid said:
    ... lalo ka lang matotorture dahil mapipilitan kang gamitin yung utak mong slightly used. lol  You like more pain di ba?  Naghahanap ka ng sakit ng katawan/ulo eh di ibibigay ko sa iyo? lol


    Negative:


  • logitextlogitext PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    edited June 4
    This would be interesting. It would all come down to: 'what counts as an evidence'.


    Good luck to both.


  • ElCidElCid Roman Catholic PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    logitext said:
    This would be interesting. It would all come down to: 'what counts as an evidence'.


    Good luck to both.


    Thanks.
  • LTLT Member PEx Icon 🎖️🎖️🎖️
    nagsimula na ba?
  • JuanTamad_JuanTamad_ Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐

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  • lordlapulapulordlapulapu PEx Rookie ⭐
    ganito pala ang formal debate dalawang lingo bago magpost. haay wala akong pasensya sa ganyan! buti hindi natuloy hamon sakin ni mang elcid! kumagat na sana ako eh!  :s
  • JuanTamad_JuanTamad_ Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    ganito pala ang formal debate dalawang lingo bago magpost. haay wala akong pasensya sa ganyan! buti hindi natuloy hamon sakin ni mang elcid! kumagat na sana ako eh!  :s
    Pwede mong ituloy ung "pagpapatunay" sa dios mo habang hinihintay ang introduction ni ElCedie.
  • ElCidElCid Roman Catholic PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    ganito pala ang formal debate dalawang lingo bago magpost. haay wala akong pasensya sa ganyan! buti hindi natuloy hamon sakin ni mang elcid! kumagat na sana ako eh!  :s
    Wala kang pasencia at lalong wala ka ding utak para sa ganyan.
  • KidlatNgayonKidlatNgayon Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Para ito kay Juan Tamad:

    Si El Cid ay AFFIRMATIVE sa statement na "There is Evidence that God Exists", kaya ikaw bilang NEGATIVE - ito ang statement mo: "There is No Evidence that God Exists" o kaya ay "There is Evidence that God Does Not Exist" - dito, ang proof of burden ay nasa iyo.

    Huwag mong dadayain yung isa na dahil isa lang ang statement na ginamit ay nasa kanya ang burden of proof. Next time kasi, dapat tig-isa kayo ng statements para ang burden of proof ay sa kanya-kanyang statement.

    Ang masasabi kong lang, HUWAG MADAYA ang isa sa inyo! :D    
  • logitextlogitext PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    edited June 24
    The Positive's constructive, I went through each of those and more when I was still a believer. I found them lacking. The modern common sense alone renders those 'logical arguments' obsolete. Afterwards I woke up realizing I am already an atheist. And that quote from Hawking, its easily clarified. How I wish I am the one debating the Negative's side. 
  • ElCidElCid Roman Catholic PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    edited June 25
    ^ You can always pickup where JuanTamad will leave off.   No problem.  We can go through each one and show you that it still holds true until today since the argument is still being used until today.  But for the meantime, you can hold your steam and let JuanTamad do some thinking for a change. But when your turn comes, you'll have to take the STRONG ATHEIST position since JT already took the WEAK ATHEIST position.  You will have your chance.
  • KidlatNgayonKidlatNgayon Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Para kay logitext:

    Minamaliit mo ba si Juan Tamad? :lol: Parang sinasabi mo na diot na talo na si Juan Tamad. Hindi ka ba happy sa mga sagot niya? :D  
  • KidlatNgayonKidlatNgayon Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    E ito palang si Juan Tamad - ang intindi nya sa Theist group na ipinagtatanggol ni El Cid ay LAHAT ng grupo na may sinasamba pati mga PAGANO! Paano ba yan, mahina ba ang statement o mahina ang kalaban? :lol:   
  • logitextlogitext PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    edited June 28
    E ito palang si Juan Tamad - ang intindi nya sa Theist group na ipinagtatanggol ni El Cid ay LAHAT ng grupo na may sinasamba pati mga PAGANO! Paano ba yan, mahina ba ang statement o mahina ang kalaban? :lol:   

    Juan Tamad is reminding people that the debate is specific to the BIBLE GOD. What evidence is there that the bible God exists. I dont see anything in Elcid's Constructive that deals with that issue. His constructive is all about the 'cause', the designer. Where is the evidence that this cause, this 'designer', is the bible God? It could be Zeus for all we know.
  • JuanTamad_JuanTamad_ Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    E ito palang si Juan Tamad - ang intindi nya sa Theist group na ipinagtatanggol ni El Cid ay LAHAT ng grupo na may sinasamba pati mga PAGANO! Paano ba yan, mahina ba ang statement o mahina ang kalaban? :lol:   

    Sablay na naman ang pang-unawa ng kampon ng "tunay (daw) na relihiyon".
  • KidlatNgayonKidlatNgayon Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    logitext said:
    E ito palang si Juan Tamad - ang intindi nya sa Theist group na ipinagtatanggol ni El Cid ay LAHAT ng grupo na may sinasamba pati mga PAGANO! Paano ba yan, mahina ba ang statement o mahina ang kalaban? :lol:   

    Juan Tamad is reminding people that the debate is specific to the BIBLE GOD. What evidence is there that the bible God exists. I dont see anything in Elcid's Constructive that deals with that issue. His constructive is all about the 'cause', the designer. Where is the evidence that this cause, this 'designer', is the bible God? It could be Zeus for all we know.
    Saan nya sinabi yan? :lol: 
  • logitextlogitext PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    logitext said:
    E ito palang si Juan Tamad - ang intindi nya sa Theist group na ipinagtatanggol ni El Cid ay LAHAT ng grupo na may sinasamba pati mga PAGANO! Paano ba yan, mahina ba ang statement o mahina ang kalaban? :lol:   

    Juan Tamad is reminding people that the debate is specific to the BIBLE GOD. What evidence is there that the bible God exists. I dont see anything in Elcid's Constructive that deals with that issue. His constructive is all about the 'cause', the designer. Where is the evidence that this cause, this 'designer', is the bible God? It could be Zeus for all we know.
    Saan nya sinabi yan? :lol: 

    Here:



    JuanTamad_ said:

    Ang aking katunggali ay isang Kristiyano. Siya'y hindi Deist at hindi rin Pantheist. Hindi Hindu, hindi Jewish,  hindi Muslim, hindi Sikh at lalong hindi isang Buddhist. Ang dios niya ay si Yahweh at si Hesukristo. At ang basehan ng kanyang paniniwala ay ang Biblia.

  • KidlatNgayonKidlatNgayon Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    logitext said:
    logitext said:
    E ito palang si Juan Tamad - ang intindi nya sa Theist group na ipinagtatanggol ni El Cid ay LAHAT ng grupo na may sinasamba pati mga PAGANO! Paano ba yan, mahina ba ang statement o mahina ang kalaban? :lol:   

    Juan Tamad is reminding people that the debate is specific to the BIBLE GOD. What evidence is there that the bible God exists. I dont see anything in Elcid's Constructive that deals with that issue. His constructive is all about the 'cause', the designer. Where is the evidence that this cause, this 'designer', is the bible God? It could be Zeus for all we know.
    Saan nya sinabi yan? :lol: 

    Here:



    JuanTamad_ said:

    Ang aking katunggali ay isang Kristiyano. Siya'y hindi Deist at hindi rin Pantheist. Hindi Hindu, hindi Jewish,  hindi Muslim, hindi Sikh at lalong hindi isang Buddhist. Ang dios niya ay si Yahweh at si Hesukristo. At ang basehan ng kanyang paniniwala ay ang Biblia.

    Sinabi ba nya dyan na ang pagkakaintindi nya sa word na "theist" ay yung naniniwala lang sa Diyos ng Kristiyano?


  • KidlatNgayonKidlatNgayon Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    logitext said:
    E ito palang si Juan Tamad - ang intindi nya sa Theist group na ipinagtatanggol ni El Cid ay LAHAT ng grupo na may sinasamba pati mga PAGANO! Paano ba yan, mahina ba ang statement o mahina ang kalaban? :lol:   

    Juan Tamad is reminding people that the debate is specific to the BIBLE GOD. What evidence is there that the bible God exists. I dont see anything in Elcid's Constructive that deals with that issue. His constructive is all about the 'cause', the designer. Where is the evidence that this cause, this 'designer', is the bible God? It could be Zeus for all we know.
    See, it's you, yourself, who crosses the god of pagans with the bible God? :D
  • logitextlogitext PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    edited July 3
    Elcid's debate: 

    There is evidence that a Creator exists




    Juan Tamad's debate:

    There is no evidence that the Bible God exists



    One is broad, the other is specific.
    Its going to be a draw.
    I suggest they restart this debate and settle on what kind of 'god' they are debating on.

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