Barangay Ginebra Kings: Thread Twenty Two

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  • junjun28junjun28 Peace-Maker PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Malabo bitawan yan si greg. Pedeng ibangko yan pero di nila papamigay yan. Hanggat walang ibang bigman ibang teams patuloy ang success ng smc.
  • Carlo_MagnoCarlo_Magno Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    Kunin nalang muna si rr garcia kahit 1 conference lang magaling naman to,shooter pa  kung ayaw pumasok sa trade ..ilan beses nag best player sa game, mvp pa sa uaap 29 palang 

    RR garcia is really worth a try. Kung galing wala naman sigurong question sa part na yan. Yong iba sasabihin, liability on defense, eh ganun din naman si LA. 
  • Carlo_MagnoCarlo_Magno Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    junjun28 said:
    Malabo bitawan yan si greg. Pedeng ibangko yan pero di nila papamigay yan. Hanggat walang ibang bigman ibang teams patuloy ang success ng smc.
    Malabo talagang bitawan yan. Sa tingin ko kasi, frustrated lang ang gins dahil nga mataas talaga ang expectation k greg. Directly proportional sa height nya ang expectation ng fans. If he happens to find his groove in another team, magiging sakit sa ulo ng ginebra yan. Greg is still churning decent numbers naman. Huwag mo lang i compare sa numbers ni Junnmar.

  • allein_stevenallein_steven Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    junjun28 said:
    Malabo bitawan yan si greg. Pedeng ibangko yan pero di nila papamigay yan. Hanggat walang ibang bigman ibang teams patuloy ang success ng smc.
    Malabo talagang bitawan yan. Sa tingin ko kasi, frustrated lang ang gins dahil nga mataas talaga ang expectation k greg. Directly proportional sa height nya ang expectation ng fans. If he happens to find his groove in another team, magiging sakit sa ulo ng ginebra yan. Greg is still churning decent numbers naman. Huwag mo lang i compare sa numbers ni Junnmar.

    And gaya ng sabi ni junjun, hangang namamyagpag ang smc sa liga, walang problema sa mngt.actually alam ko din yan..

    ngfafantasy trade lang ako.
  • junjun28junjun28 Peace-Maker PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    junjun28 said:
    Malabo bitawan yan si greg. Pedeng ibangko yan pero di nila papamigay yan. Hanggat walang ibang bigman ibang teams patuloy ang success ng smc.
    Malabo talagang bitawan yan. Sa tingin ko kasi, frustrated lang ang gins dahil nga mataas talaga ang expectation k greg. Directly proportional sa height nya ang expectation ng fans. If he happens to find his groove in another team, magiging sakit sa ulo ng ginebra yan. Greg is still churning decent numbers naman. Huwag mo lang i compare sa numbers ni Junnmar.

    And gaya ng sabi ni junjun, hangang namamyagpag ang smc sa liga, walang problema sa mngt.actually alam ko din yan..

    ngfafantasy trade lang ako.
    Cguro kung nasa ibang team yan matagal ng natrade yan si Greg. Knowing smc bibitawan nila yan pag puro injury na or gurang na.
  • roc1010roc1010 PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Kahit ganyan yan, I’d rather have a Greg on my bench than with other teams. Kulang lang talaga natin someone who can operate on his own when the offense breaks down. 
  • westhavenwesthaven Jedi apprentice PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Even si Scottie nung bago di naman masyado ginagamit ni Cone, i really liked the way scottie played kahit nung first year nya pa lang and limited minutes lang talaga binibigay sa kanya... but eventually he earned his way to CTC's rotation and proved himself. With guys like mariano and ferrer, i think hanggang ganun na lang talaga kayang gawin nyan and for sure sa practice CTC notices this. The challenge is for the players to show the coach that they deserve the minutes, and this starts sa practice pa lang and then in actual games, and not the other way around. What Ginebra needs are consistent shooters, especially in the no3 position. Though if you think about it, Ginebra finished as the third seed and could have gotten no2 if not for that quotient with Rain or Shine, so really its not that bad of a lineup as some make them out to be. But if they can get their hands on Ray Parks the way SMB got Romeo and just give 2-3 role players, then that's a sure reload for the Kings
    Problema sa Ginebra wala talagang perimeter guys that will open things up for both Greg and Japeth inside. Kung titingnan mo, mas maganda pa ang outside shooting nung big men like Japeth, Jervy and Joe kumpara sa guards at wing guys. Dito palang may mali na. Kung etong si Mariano at IC eh pinapattern ang laro kina Shaun Livingston, Rip Hamilton, Billups, etc... Ang sarap siguro ng buhay nila Greg. Di naman kailangan talagang 3-point shooter. But it's a MUST for your guards or wings to have a reliable midrange shot. 

    Si Livingston, pag nasa loob, sureball madalas ang 10-15 foot jumper. Ni hindi tumitira ng tres yan. But he picks his spots. Si Hamilton during the Pistons' heyday in mid-2000s, was known to move without the ball and makes those midrange shots 90% of the time. 

    I just don't see both Mariano and IC to have that commitment. I haven't even seen IC take a midrange jumper this season. 
  • Renzo22Renzo22 Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    Palibutan mo ng Shooters si Greg, walang double sa loob. Just like JF, kaya nga ang gaan ng buhay ni JF, aside sa magaling na sa poste pinapalibutan pa ng Shooters at Shotmakers.
  • Carlo_MagnoCarlo_Magno Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    Renzo22 said:
    Palibutan mo ng Shooters si Greg, walang double sa loob. Just like JF, kaya nga ang gaan ng buhay ni JF, aside sa magaling na sa poste pinapalibutan pa ng Shooters at Shotmakers.

    Di ba nga sabi ni coach leo, jmf is smb's strength, and jmf's is his teammates.  Dapat sana ganito din sa ginebra.
  • jazzperjazzper In Your Mind PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Ang problema depende sa sistema ni ctc. Yung jeff chan kaya nga kinuha para may consistent shooter. Ano nangyari matanda na ba talaga o hindi sanay sa sistema ni ctc or malaki ang pressure kasi nasa ginebra sya? Tingin ko lahat yan may factor. IC is supposed to be their shooter in the wing pero hindi rin consistent. Ang tanong kapag nilagay ba dyan sina Pringle or Nambatac or kung sino mang shooter magiging efficient din kaya baka pag hindi pa gumana ang mga yan sino ba ang ilalagay sa team na to si steph curry na? Yung jeff chan ang ganda ng nilalaro sa previous team nya recently pero pagdating sa tagay team nawala. Ano ba talaga ang problema? Pressure within or pressure outside? Kasi ngayon pag sinabi mong ginebra para its a must na dapat nasa finals sila or championship agad. Hindi naman ganun kahihina ang mga ibang teams. Tingin ko LA is fine and so with Iskati and Chan. Its all about mindset and confidence. The pieces are there combination of young and old (except for caguioa who must retire) and experience.
  • junjun28junjun28 Peace-Maker PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Renzo22 said:
    Palibutan mo ng Shooters si Greg, walang double sa loob. Just like JF, kaya nga ang gaan ng buhay ni JF, aside sa magaling na sa poste pinapalibutan pa ng Shooters at Shotmakers.
    I think di naman kelangan idouble si greg. Kaya naman sya single coverage ng ibang sentro. 
  • BestintheworldWJBestintheworldWJ best Pexer ever! PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Renzo22 said:
    Palibutan mo ng Shooters si Greg, walang double sa loob. Just like JF, kaya nga ang gaan ng buhay ni JF, aside sa magaling na sa poste pinapalibutan pa ng Shooters at Shotmakers.
    Panay ang basa ko e pa comment na nga hehe.

    Kahit palibutan mo ng shooter yan apat na steph curry yan kung hindi marunong mag seal hindi mag dodominate sa ilalim yan si Junmar marunong ok ba buddy?

    Ang dali nga itulak sa labas e. Shaq, Demarcus, Junmar, Menk, marami pa iba marurunong mag seal kaya kawawa ang kalaban pag my shooter sila. Hindi kaya ni Greg 1 on 1 sa ilalim maniwala ka hindi kaya ng lower niya at legs niya chong.

    Hanggang ganyan nalang yan. Lower expectation. Ok ako doon sa Pringle at Mo

    PS: si Eram kahit ganon kapayat mabilis at malakas lower kaya nakaka seal.

    ang pag SEAL need mo ng bilis, onting gulang like hawak sa jersey, lakas ng lower buddy at legs. Chaka dapat matigas hindi puwede malamabot. Naalala ko si Erink Menk naseseal niya kahit si Davon Harp mas malaki saknya. 
  • BestintheworldWJBestintheworldWJ best Pexer ever! PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    roc1010 said:
    Kahit ganyan yan, I’d rather have a Greg on my bench than with other teams. Kulang lang talaga natin someone who can operate on his own when the offense breaks down. 
    Prime Cagi parang ganyan.

    Paul Lee, Pringle, yung my deadly na crossover at buo ang loob. Wala na e meron paba? 
  • Greenarrow12Greenarrow12 Hail! Hail! Hail! PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Ang players ngayon, kahit sa NBA, mas pinipili ihone ang tira sa tres kesa sa midrange. Huling player na nakita ko na deadly sa midrange eh si Carmelo pa nung prime nito. Sa players natin, si Cagi ang may midrange before nung bata bata pa. Si Aljon naman hindi natin maasahan tumira yan ng midrange. Si Kevin, well, year three na, ganun pa din. May times na kahit libre na sa corner, nagmimintis pa rin.

    Mahirap ke Greg, kaya di man lang tumaas average sa rebound at natatalo pa ni Scottie eh nanonood lang sa bola. Ni wala man lang effort habulin eh. Yung passing nya, lalo na yung kickout, basang basa na eh. . 
  • zezar_azarzezar_azar Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Mabagal ang reflexes ni greg. Di na magbabago yan. Wag na tayong maghintay ng development sa kanya. Di na mangyayari yun. Peak na yan IMO. 
  • brunomambabrunomamba Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Kunin na muna si rr garcia at jerico cruz solve na problema , next year abangan nalang  naten si ray parks 1 year contract lang naman pinirmahan gusto mya maga laro sa ginebra .  Saka nalang pumasok sa trade ..tapos na all filipino parating na mga imports . yan na nga o..... libre de calibreng player sayang kung di bibigyan ng chance kesa naman kay raymond aguilar DI NA mabigyan playing time , o kahit si tey2 oridinary player lang , malayo naman yun laro ng mga na banggit kong player ...nag bubutas lang din ng upuan di kumuha na ng player na kapag pinasok mo alam mo may magandang mang yayare di pa laos mga yan malalim lang sobra line-up tnt ...laki naman tiwala ni ctc kay l.a at sol e wala na nga mapakita ilang conference ng ganyan ..
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  • Jess24Jess24 1225 PEx Expert ⭐⭐⭐⭐
    Greg can be defended single coverage. Lol we have seen that time and again. He can't even beat Brondial with his back to the basket. Slaughter is most effective when he gets a pass deep in the lane and all he has to do is to raise his arms and shoot. But if you try to make him work in the post, forget it. Whether he is surrounded by shooters or not, don't bet your life that he can do damage one on one. 

    The funny thing is, Tim Cone's old teams were great jump shooting teams. Wala silang dominating bigs, so they ran the triangle really to showcase how great their midrange shooting was. Hawkins, Johnny A, Jolas, Jeff, Duremdes, Juino, Thoss, Miller, Baguio, those guys were automatic from mid range. Sa Purefoods, he had PJ Simon as his primary midrange scorer, then of course James Yap, JDV and Barroca. 

    Anyway, with Brownlee back, some of the offensive problems will be solved because he essentially becomes your post and midrange threat that they never had last conference. Pero apart from that, and I've said this a lot in that last series, Ginebra needs to become a good defensive team again. You can have all the offensive weapons that you want, pero kung tamad kang dumepensa, wala din. 
  • mhm1978mhm1978 Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Pambihira si ctc ayaw kumuha ng ibang player n may shooting like rr, jericho khit nga degregorio nung free agent pa d kinuha masyado bilib sa guards nya ngaun at sa triangle nya..kala mo nman nagchampion mga team nya noon dhil lng sa triangle..kung nagktaon puro baldog din players nya d nman makachamp yan..aanhin nya mgandang plays nya kung ung titira eh tamang chamba at asa lng sa awa..
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