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Is Gambling More Luck or More Skill?

jeganrrjeganrr Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
Kasi diba maraming Pinoy mahilig sa gambling kaya nga naging popular ang cockfighting?Pero ano sa tingin niyo,is gambling more luck or more skill? I'm not just talking about card games,but also other kinds of gambling.
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  • pong_padourpong_padour Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    • Knowing what is the best game with a higher probability of you winning. Sicbo & Baccarat.
    • Choosing the right table at the right time. How? By looking at the pattern of the charts.
    • Following certain algorithms through experience. You can call it a bit of a skill coz' you've already developed it through observations, experience and empirical data.
    • Most of the time it's sheer luck. It's still a game of chance. You still haven't won until you left the casino floor.
    • Knowing when to bet big, doubling up and setting limits of your earnings everyday.
    • You have to be mentally prepared because it will drain your energy mentally. LOL
    • Always have a mindset that you're already a winner.
    • In Sicbo & Baccarat, I always follow the trend and pattern then double up for 3-5 tumes depending in my gut feeling.
    • If you're emotionally weak, I guarantee you that you will lose. It's what makes those casino addicts lose millions of their money. There are bad days so don't push your luck to reverse it, quit while it's only a small loss. Comeback another day and win bigger. Dyan natatalo sa mga babawi. Kaya wag maging mainit.
    • Again there are certain algortihms and strategy to follow, you will learn it through experience.
    • If you'll gotta bet the same amount of bet each time, forget it, go home and save your money. You'll definitely lose it all. The technique is betting double for consecutive times then returning to your iriginal bet and wait for the right timing to bet doubles again.
    • I lost count on how many times I've made $2-$3k out from $50-$100. I really don't gamble and obviously not a high roller coz I'm not dumb to lose more than a hundred bucks of my money; so I use my skills, knowledge, luck and experience to my advantage and come home a couple thousand bucks richer in less than an hour, 2 hours tops. 
    • If you're bad in Math, the chances of you winning is quite low so forget it.
    • It is the number of times you win in a month that matters no matter how big or small it is. Quit while you're still ahead and still winning. 1 or 2 consecutive losses, call it a day and cash out your winnings. It's a sure win guarantee.
    • If you're greedy, you'll come out empty handed.
    • Advantage player is playing with strategy, a gambler is just lucky a few times. Learn the difference and be the advantage player.
    • Forget blackjack and slots. Play Baccarat and Sicbo. It's quick and easy. Just choose the table that is trending. Change table as soon as it reverses the trend or if the dealers change. Look for the ratio like Player:18 Banker:2, bet on player while it's still hot. 
    • My algorithms got me around 85-92% success winning rate everytime I go to the casino. That's the reason some of my friends ask me out to "accompany" them to MVS kr Genting Highlands. Too bad some of them are bkt that smart enough, sometimes lose control and forgets the lessons I've taught them. That's why I'm always the only winner in our circle leaving the casino. They're begging for crumbs afterwards. LOL
    • If you go to the casino everyday following some algorithms, out of 30 days, say 22 days with average winnings of $2k/visit and 8 days with losses of $100/visit, you could make around $43,200 profit every month. But still, don't bend your rules and go overboard of your $100 budget. Don't be addicted to the dopamine rush everytime you win, stay focused and stick with your rules.
    • Remember that idiot who burned the RWM last time. Don't be that idiot guy playing 40k a hand and ended up setting the tables on fire from his desperation. Please, play responsibly. $50-$100 is already enough to make you win at least $500 or more. You lose $50, so what?  But if you lose more than a hundred just by playing is foolish in my opinion.
    • Money that's easily earned is easily spent so be wise with your earnings.
    • Stock trading is somehow the same in a way that you are speculating. Difference is they use fibonacci, elliot's triangle and other software to speculate for them.
    • Lastly, again as a gentle reminder, if you have a weak self control, don't risk it. Don't get hooked, just play leisurely and wisely. ;)
  • A mix of both, I guess. But more on the former.
  • xbox360xbox360 Your Welcome... PEx Rookie ⭐
    How can we beat casino? 
  • Parehas, kasi kung puro luck at walang skill, what if you run out of luck? wala ka ng chances. Pero kung may skills ka like probability and sorts, madedetermine mo yung nature of luck mo and how it happens. Thus madedecrease mo yung chances na mamalasin ka. 
  • gotta lick itgotta lick it Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    xbox360 said:
    How can we beat casino? 
    learn the SKILL of counting cards.



    i learned this from a casino card dealer. he was egging people to bet on the house. nobody did and loss badly. the dealer had 2-3s and started pulling more aces and 2s for the win. he was counting cards and knew there is a possibility of a 21 with remaining low cards. after the win he said, ".... ayaw kasi ninyo."
  • pong_padourpong_padour Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    ^ Yeap. Madali lang naman ang counting cards. Did that previously. You just need to keep an eye on the running count. You assign values of each card.
    • 2-6 = +1
    • 7-9 = 0
    • 10-Ace= -1
    The higher + value you have means there are more Aces and face cards left on the shoe, the better chances of getting 20 or BlackJack so you bet higher. Did this with my friends, and won pretty huge amount of chips kahit laro laro lang. Will try this on Marina Bay Sands casino soon. Sawa na ko sa Sicbo and Bacarrat.
  • NalaGidaNalaGida PEx Rookie ⭐
    both, and practice :
  • alchemistofophiralchemistofophir Christian Communist PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    small time gambling (card games, cara y cruz, dice) - pampalipas lang ng oras o kung gusto mong hasain ang artistic skills mo.

    big time gambling (lotto) - hintayin na maging 1.5 billion dollars at magsunog ng 2$ at tawagin na ang lahat ng mga Diyos at Diyosa para maging billionaryo ka sa loob ng isang linggo. tapos pag natupad, ililibre lahat ng nasa barangay nyo at magpapaconcert sa loob ng 1 week. at donate sa Simbahan. at syempre, pasalamat sa mga Diyos at Diyosa.



    B)B)B)
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  • gotta lick itgotta lick it Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    ^ Yeap. Madali lang naman ang counting cards. Did that previously. You just need to keep an eye on the running count. You assign values of each card.
    • 2-6 = +1
    • 7-9 = 0
    • 10-Ace= -1
    The higher + value you have means there are more Aces and face cards left on the shoe, the better chances of getting 20 or BlackJack so you bet higher. Did this with my friends, and won pretty huge amount of chips kahit laro laro lang. Will try this on Marina Bay Sands casino soon. Sawa na ko sa Sicbo and Bacarrat.
    after that dealt house win, everybody on the table left.



    in short, most of the players on that table were just trying their LUCK and immediately scooted out after learn they were up against someone who knew the SKILL of counting cards.
  • panis_na_putopanis_na_puto Member PExer
    xbox360 said:
    How can we beat casino? 
    learn the SKILL of counting cards.

    Kaso hindi lang isang deck of cards ang gamit. Mga 5-10 deck ang gamit. Imposibleng bilangin dahil di mo alam kung pang-ilang deck na.

    Paano ko alam. Kumpare ko ay card dealer sa isang casino rito sa amin.

    Imposibleng talunin ang casino. Kung sobra ka namang galing sa sugal ay paaalisin ka. Bakit ko alam? Iyan din ang sabi ng kumpare kong card dealer.
  • pong_padourpong_padour Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    edited May 2019
    ^ tatang basic math lang naman ginagamit. Addition and subtraction lang to monitor the running count. A lot of people have done that before in the past like Ken Uston, Edward Thorp and Don Johnson to name a few. The latter is often invited by the casinos to play and will give anything he wants just to attract him play. VIP club access, hotel suites, lobster steak, yacht or helicopter tour you name it.
    But yeah, for most casinos if they found out or got suspicious that you are a card counter, they have the liberty to ban you and you'll be listed in the Griffin book which is circulated in different casinos all over the world.
    Si BigoteatBalbas (one BP Pexer before) mentioned before na naban daw sya dati sa isang casino sa Las Vegas. Mukhang card counter nga din yun.
    If you want to play really high stakes gambling and make tons of money using your skill reading people's bluff, play poker. Guys like Phil Ivey, Phil Helmuth, Stu Ungar and Daniel Negreanu made millions playing poker. Poker is a game of skill and discipline which involves calculating  probabilities, risk management and reading your opponent's body language etc to determine if he has a good hand or just bluffing you with a bad hand. I can say  there's also a small percentage of luck factor like winning from a river which switches the odds.
  • panis_na_putopanis_na_puto Member PExer
    ^ tatang basic math lang naman ginagamit. Addition and subtraction lang to monitor the running count. A lot of people have done that before in the past like Ken Uston, Edward Thorp and Don Johnson to name a few.


    Sabi ko nga wala nang bisa ang magbilang ng baraja sapagka't mahigit isang deck ang gamit ng card dealer.
  • BeerhandBopBeerhandBop I Am WHIP PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    "A lot of people have done that before in the past like Ken Uston, Edward Thorp and Don Johnson to name a few. "

    That can't be done anymore. dahil sa automatic shoe boxes that they use now. 
    the cards are shuffled on every hand. it's 5 decks ata inside it.  that thing sa upper right side ng table. YOU CANT BEAT THAT THING.


  • pong_padourpong_padour Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    edited May 2019
    ^ Yap ganyan na gamit ngayon in most casinos. Forgot to mention that. Pero meron pa rin sa ibang casino na di gumagamit nyan.
  • gotta lick itgotta lick it Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    xbox360 said:
    How can we beat casino? 
    learn the SKILL of counting cards.

    Kaso hindi lang isang deck of cards ang gamit. Mga 5-10 deck ang gamit. Imposibleng bilangin dahil di mo alam kung pang-ilang deck na.

    Paano ko alam. Kumpare ko ay card dealer sa isang casino rito sa amin.

    Imposibleng talunin ang casino. Kung sobra ka namang galing sa sugal ay paaalisin ka. Bakit ko alam? Iyan din ang sabi ng kumpare kong card dealer.
    tama ... 5-10 decks



    so learn the SKILL of counting cards of 5-10 decks. the secret is to find out what is the actual number of decks on the table. you dont need to bet at every deal. you can sit and just observe.

    huwag ka lang obvious na nagbibilang.
  • BeerhandBopBeerhandBop I Am WHIP PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    "^ Yap ganyan na gamit ngayon in most casinos. Forgot to mention that. Pero meron pa rin sa ibang casino na di gumagamit nyan."

    kahit casino filipinong dugyot tignan gumagamit na din nyan. LoL. 

    that leaves the peryas i guess. 

  • pong_padourpong_padour Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    The reason why I love Bacarrat is you win easily just following certain algorithms with a small capital. :disappointed:

    Just today here at MBS
    From only $100 to this:






    Just cashed out my winnings at shopping na mamaya with my winnings and keep most of it together with my previous winnings as my bankroll. LOL
    Here's one of my winning tables earlier hehe


  • BeerhandBopBeerhandBop I Am WHIP PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    lmaos. yea. best odds of the house is bacarat. it's 49- 49- 2 percent. chances of winning..  (cause of tie, less if bacarat is half payout lang)

  • art727art727 Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Kung sa sabong at sabungero ka?, masasabi ko isang skills ang magsasabong kasi marunong ka kumilatis ng mga manok na panabong..kaya lamang ka sa panalo..kaya yung iba naghahanap ng kristo na magsasabi sa kanila kung aling manok ang lamang , saka lang sila pupusta..
  • OlexisOlexis PEx Rookie ⭐
    I used to be a compulsive gambler. The first try, like they said, is the Beginner's luck! It's true, I guess. It happened to me. First few months, I was on the winning streak kaagad. I even hit the Jackpot twice. I didn't know that it would cost me pala almost everything na meron ako. I was a regular player sa mga e-games. Bingo Blitz, Bingo Pilipino, Multi-Mega etc. Those machines almost destroyed my life. Actually no. My gambling addiction almost destroyed my life. Gambling is both luck and a skill. At walang yumayaman diyan. Luckily, with the help of my family, friends and myself ay nakarecover ako. One thing ang hindi ko ginawa. Ang pumasok sa isang Casino to play Poker, Baccarat etc. Maybe that would be the end of me.

    Hangga't may oras ka pa, tigilan mo na yan. It's depressing and suicidal if you lost everything.

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