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Saudi to admit Khashoggi was killed: Report

CNN cited two sources as saying the Saudis are preparing a report that will acknowledge Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi's death resulted from an interrogation that went

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  • gotcha2gotcha2 PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    edited October 2018

    The Saudi knows it before hand. Di ba sabi ng Turkish, about a dozen arrived before Oct 2 yata from KSA.

    Mga goons siguro ng anak.

  • gotcha2gotcha2 PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐

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    Body of missing Saudi journalist was cut into pieces, Turkish official says

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/16/middleeast/khashoggi-turkish-investigation-intl/index.html

    (CNN)The body of missing journalist Jamal Khashoggi was cut into pieces after he was killed two weeks ago at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, a Turkish official told CNN on Tuesday.

    The claim, which was first made to the New York Times earlier in the investigation, comes after Turkish officials searched the consulate for nine hours on Monday night.
    President Recep Tayyip Erdogan earlier Tuesday said Turkish investigators were looking into "toxic" and "painted over material" as part of their inquiry.
    "My hope is that we can reach conclusions that will give us a reasonable opinion as soon as possible, because the investigation is looking into many things such as toxic materials and those materials being removed by painting them over," Erdogan told reporters.
      Turkish officials have said privately that Khashoggi was killed in the consulate on October 2 after he arrived to obtain papers that would have allowed him to marry his Turkish fiancée.
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        Turkish investigators were expected to carry out a search of the Saudi Consul General's residence in Istanbul later on Tuesday. CCTV footage, which has served as a focal point in the investigations, showed vehicles moving from the consulate building to the nearby Consul General's residence on October 2.
        The semiofficial Anadolu news agency said Saudi's Istanbul Consul General, Mohammed Otaibi, had left the country.


      • Phil E. BusterPhil E. Buster PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
        According to reports on Monday night, Riyadh may be about to admit journalist Jamal Khashoggi was killed in its consulate in Istanbul in a botched interrogation

        Botched interrogation!? How many Botched interrogation is happening inside Saudi jails everyday. I hope what happened to Jamal Khashoggi will open the eyes of the world to blood thirsty Wahhabi crown prince of Saudi Arabia.



      • vicmesarvicmesar Member PEx Guru 🎖️🎖️
        “Rogue killers” could be to blame for the disappearance of Khashoggi, who has not been seen since he walked into the Saudi consulate in Istanbul on October 2 to sort out marriage paperwork, US President Donald Trump said after telephone talks with the king.

        this FACKING ILLOGICAL
        If this is the case, they should have issued IMMEDIATE REACTION or official denial of the killing... why just now after 16 days of the murder.. A clear AFTERTHOUGHT but so illogical

        Since Oct. 2, the scandal reached WORLDWIDE COVERAGE/CONDEMNATION... if there was no murder, the Saudi Embassy should have presented Khashoggi to media;

        I there is no murder, why the Saudi Royals have to keep mum? why the Saudi Ambassador have to flee

        Saudi may have oil but no brains. They remained as the world's largest TRIBE - the richest TRIBE in the world mentality








      • gotcha2gotcha2 PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐

        Jamal Khashoggi's killing took seven minutes, Turkish source tells MEE

        https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/exclusive-khashoggi-829291552

        Middle East Eye publishes first details of audio tape acquired by Turkish investigators probing what happened to Saudi journalist

        It took seven minutes for Jamal Khashoggi to die, a Turkish source who has listened in full to an audio recording of the Saudi journalist's last moments told Middle East Eye.

        Khashoggi was dragged from the consul-general’s office at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul and onto the table of his study next door, the Turkish source said.

        Horrendous screams were then heard by a witness downstairs, the source said.

        "The consul himself was taken out of the room. There was no attempt to interrogate him. They had come to kill him,” the source told MEE.

        The screaming stopped when Khashoggi - who was last seen entering the Saudi consulate on 2 October - was injected with an as yet unknown substance.

        Salah Muhammad al-Tubaigy, who has been identified as the head of forensic evidence in the Saudi general security department, was one of the 15-member squad who arrived in Ankara earlier that day on a private jet.

        Tubaigy began to cut Khashoggi’s body up on a table in the study while he was still alive, the Turkish source said.

        The killing took seven minutes, the source said.

        As he started to dismember the body, Tubaigy put on earphones and listened to music. He advised other members of the squad to do the same.

        “When I do this job, I listen to music. You should do [that] too,” Tubaigy was recorded as saying, the source told MEE.

        A three-minute version of the audio tape has been given to Turkish newspaper Sabah, but they have yet to release it.



        Saudi national Salah Muhammad A Tubaigy at Ataturk Airport on 2 October 2018 (AFP/Sabah/screengrab)

        A Turkish source told the New York Times that Tubaigy was equipped with a bone saw. He is listed as the president of the Saudi Fellowship of Forensic Pathology and a member of the Saudi Association for Forensic Pathology.

        In 2014, London-based Saudi newspaper Asharaq al-Awsat interviewed Tubaigy about a mobile clinic that allows coroners to perform autopsies in seven minutes to determine the cause of death of Hajj pilgrims.

        The newspaper reported that the mobile clinic was partly designed by Tubaigy and could be used in "security cases that requires pathologist intervention to perform an autopsy or examine a body at the place of a crime”.

        These are the first details to emerge of the Saudi journalist’s killing. Khashoggi was last seen entering the Saudi consulate in Istanbul on 2 October to retrieve paperwork.

        To date, Saudi officials have strongly denied any involvement in his disappearance and say that he left the consulate soon after arriving. However, they have not presented any evidence to corroborate their claim and say that video cameras at the consulate were not recording at the time.

        Calls for credible investigation grow louder

        On Tuesday, both US President Donald Trump and Mike Pompeo, his secretary of state, came out in support of Saudi officials's denials they know anything about what happened to Khashoggi. 

        Trump tweeted that he spoke to Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, who "totally denied any knowledge of what took place" in Istanbul. Trump said MBS told him "that he has already started, and will rapidly expand, a full and complete investigation into this matter".

        On Monday, CNN reported that Saudi Arabia was preparing to release a report that would blame Khashoggi's death on a botched interrogation.

        That would be a sharp reversal of earlier statements in which Saudi officials said they had nothing to do with the journalist's disappearance and said he left the Saudi consulate minutes after he first arrived on 2 October.

        Khashoggi, a prominent journalist and columnist for the Washington Post, had been living in self-imposed exile in the US capital when he disappeared.

        On Tuesday, Washington Post publisher and CEO Fred Ryan called for a "full and honest explanation" of Khashoggi's disappearance.

        "The Saudi government can no longer remain silent, and it is essential that our own government and others push harder for the truth," Ryan said in a statement. "Until we have a full account and full accountability, it cannot be business as usual with the Saudi government."


        The United Nations human rights chief also called for diplomatic immunity to be lifted for officials who might be involved in Khashoggi's disappearance.

        Due to the seriousness of the case, the immunity generally accorded to diplomats "should be waived immediately", Michelle Bachelet said.

      • Phil E. BusterPhil E. Buster PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
        gotcha2 said:

        Jamal Khashoggi's killing took seven minutes, Turkish source tells MEE

        ......

        On Tuesday, both US President Donald Trump and Mike Pompeo, his secretary of state, came out in support of Saudi officials's denials they know anything about what happened to Khashoggi. 


        Trump tweeted that he spoke to Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, who "totally denied any knowledge of what took place" in Istanbul. Trump said MBS told him "that he has already started, and will rapidly expand, a full and complete investigation into this matter".

        ................
        Trump should keep his mouth shut and stop commenting or making speculations about Khashoggi's death!
        Of course, the King and the Crown Prince will deny any involvement! Who does Trump think he is that the Saudi royalty will admit involvement in the killing?
      • gotta lick itgotta lick it PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐

        ^ kung hindi tataas uli ang oil prices. :lol:

      • joerizjoeriz PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
        With the increasing number of electric cars and electric hybrid cars, and more and nore embracing it, US will soon not be very dependent on Arab oil.

        It's countries like the Philippines which now appears as dumping ground for gasoline powered vehicles that suffers a lot every time there is a hiccup in oil prcie.


      • Plantation BoyPlantation Boy PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
        What makes the Saudi govenment bold enough to carry out such heinous murder? What other country will let in their consulate a high profile journalist to be not seen since? All freedom loving countries must cut ties with the Saudis and their consulates boarded up! But of course, that will not happen, specially for oil dependent countries and for money loving ones that that trade with the Saudis.
      • Darius03Darius03 PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
        Why would Khashoggi walk into the Arab consulate alone or even at all? Does he not know how barbaric his enemies are? Is Khashoggi dumbfully and arrogantly confident that he will be safe or is he plain stupid? No one should  miscalculate the evil that one's enemy is capable of doing. Unless, Khashoggi knows himself that he is already a dead man walking once he targeted the crown prince of his criticisms. The rest is how he can make a martyr of himself.
      • Darius03Darius03 PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
        edited October 2018

        Saudi crown prince to make first speech since Khashoggi murder

        A handout picture provided by the Saudi Royal Palace on October 23, 2018 shows Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (centre) posing for a selfie near Saudi billionaire Prince Al-Walid bin Talal (right) during the Future Investment Initiative conference (AFP Photo/Bandar AL-JALOUD)

        Riyadh (AFP) - Saudi Arabia's crown prince is scheduled to address an investment forum in Riyadh Wednesday, his first public speech since the murder of critic Jamal Khashoggi plunged the kingdom into crisis.

        Organisers of the glitzy flagship Future Investment Initiative listed Prince Mohammed bin Salman among the "top speakers" for the second day of the three-day conference, after he made a brief appearance on Tuesday.

        The crown prince is likely to appear on a panel alongside Lebanon's prime minister-designate Saad Hariri, whose resignation in a televised address from the Saudi capital in mysterious circumstances last year sparked rumours he was being held against his will.

        The conference, nicknamed "Davos in the desert", has been overshadowed by the outcry over the murder of Khashoggi inside the kingdom's consulate in Istanbul on October 2, with a array of big names pulling out over the case.

        The reform credentials of Prince Mohammed, the king's powerful son, have been tarnished by the scandal despite repeated denials he had any involvement in the killing of the Washington Post contributor.

        Saudi organisers of the conference have sought to portray it as business as usual, announcing 12 "mega deals" worth more than $50 billion in oil, gas, infrastructure and other sectors on the opening day of the forum.

        Energy Minister Khalid al-Falih acknowledged, however, that the kingdom was in crisis following the "abhorrent" murder of Khashoggi.

        Saudi Arabia initially claimed Khashoggi left freely after visiting the consulate but, as international pressure mounted, the kingdom said he died inside the mission when an argument degenerated into a fistfight. It later acknowledged that he had in fact been murdered, as Turkish officials said all along.

        The changing narrative has triggered deep scepticism abroad.

        The United States said Tuesday it was revoking the visas of Saudis implicated in the murder, as President Donald Trump ridiculed the kingdom's response as "one of the worst cover-ups" in history.

        The move came as Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said in a keenly anticipated speech on Tuesday that Khashoggi's killing inside the consulate had been meticulously planned.


        https://www.yahoo.com/news/saudi-crown-prince-first-speech-since-khashoggi-murder-082247731.html



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        It is always true that when you tell a little lie, bigger lies will soon follow!

        Nobody in the Arab world will tell the truth now or ever! Saudi Arabia will forever be known as a
        barbaric nation of brutal murderers and unmitigated liars!

        Is there an Arab law requiring that men's headdress be of the same cloth, color and pattern for everyone?
        Will they Khashoggi anyone who have a different cloth, color and pattern for a headdress?




      • gotta lick itgotta lick it PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
        edited November 2018
        is it just me or this brouhaha helped with sudden drop of OIL PRICES?

        the drop is against history supply trends. normally, in the BER months oil prices are higher because of the peaking demand of northern nations.




        the US kept mum did the trick. the El Pamilya Saud are amenable and not defensive.
        if the US went out to expose the misdeed of the Saud family, we might be buy oil for $100 per barrel.
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