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Mapua 0% passing rate - why i chose to leave

elchocaelchoca Member PExer
Call me bitter or anything you want but this school is not for any above average student. You have to be highly-intellectual and super rich dahil bukod sa PERA-PERA NA LANG wala pa silang pake kung bumagsak man ang students because they are confident that the student will enroll again. And these poor students only enroll for the name. Wow MAPUA! But with the dwindling board exam passing rates who is to blame?? Personally, masyadong mabilis ang pacing and we only study for the exam itself. Wala nang saysay ang isang course dahil lahat kami umaasa na lang s OTs. Every Mapuan knows this. But they are not brave enough to admit that there is something wrong with the system. Nagtataka pa kayo kung bakit bumababa passing rate sa board exam? There was even one department na nag 0%. What is happening???

I mean how can you squeeze a 5-year engineering curriculum to a 4-year one and expect your students to pass and top the board exams? Seriously, there were subjects that I passed pero walang naretain because I only studied for the exams na weekly tapos puro powerpoint nmn ang turo. You can't even approach that professors because THEY ARE TOO BUSY. Parang kami na lang ang mahihiya. OO maganda nga ang facilities but everything is just too fast. You have to become a genius in order to pass. DISKARTE?? Kulang pa rin yan lalo na't may mga prof na kelangang mambagsak para may ALAY. I pity those who continued to stay kahit na sobrang dami ng binabagsak nila bawat term. Bawi na lang daw next term. Eh kawawa naman ang mga magulang nyo sa pagbabayad ng pagkamahal-mahal nyong tuition. Not to mention the time wasted.

So I chose to leave. Not because I can't do it anymore, or I cannot afford it anymore but because I want to LEARN. I want to learn in a conducive environment with approachable professors. HINDI YUNG IPAGMAMAYABANG PA NA MARAMING BABAGSAK AT ALAY NA KAYO. Seriously, kung ganyang klaseng prof ang mapunta sa inyo talagang mawawalan ka ng gana. I chose to leave because I don't want to waste my time and money. I chose to leave because I don't want to continue to be a milking cow for an OVERLY COMMERCIALIZED SCHOOL.

I CHOSE TO LEAVE BECAUSE I WANT TO LEARN. To learn something not just in 3 months for the sake of passing an exam. But to learn something that I want to treasure during my entire life. :(:(:(
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  • gordonbluegordonblue Member PExer
    WHAT?? WHAT HAPPENED?? I have many friends who study here. My brother also studies here. Yup, same complaint. Too many to learn, too little time. Sobrang mabilisan daw. Mahirap maretain. And yes, marami na ring bagsak brother ko. Natatakot nga sya na makick out. At pag nangyari yon baka wala nang school ang tatanggap pa daw sa kanya. I don't know kung bakit gusto pa rin nila dyan. But according to my brother, they only stay there dahil known daw ang Mapua. And normal na daw bumagsak. How true?
  • elchocaelchoca Member PExer
    I don't know about your brother but if he has the luxury of time and money, then by all means he choose to stay. Ako kasi I found a reason not to. Wala sa facilities, wala rin sa galing ng mga prof. It all boils down to the system. If you can't cope up with the fast pace then you have to think about better options. The school is actually trying to improve its board ratings. But for a commercialized one, and fast pace teaching, unless lahat ng students genius, eh that will only be a dream for them. I know they have retention policies and all, but if it has been there for a long time tapos so so *** ang result ng board exam eh you have to question the system na talaga.
  • kelunjikelunji Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Bumaba na daw ang quality at nag-iba ng thrust mula nung nabenta sa Yuchengco Group. Instead of producing quality graduates, naging pera-pera na.
  • elchocaelchoca Member PExer
    ^very true. There are other schools there that have equal or even better teaching style and facilities but won't treat you as a mere STUDENT NUMBER. In the end, it's money that counts there. If you can still enroll then go. May kilala akong nagfour takes na sa isang subject hindi pa rin nakapasa. And we are not talking about major subjects here ha. They will wait hanggang sa kusa ka na lang aalis. Ikaw ba naman almost 500k na nagagastos at hindi pa rin makagraduate. I don't know where they get their fighting spirit.
  • elchocaelchoca Member PExer
    Even most of our profs na mga mapuans din tell us na pag sila sinabak sa quarter system talagang hindi rin nila kakayanin. We are talking about professors who were under the semestral system here. Believe lang ako sa mga lumalaban pa rin at sa mga nagtapos na. It will take extreme courage and intelligence to survive. At to that your apathetic professors and deans. May kakilala ako who was told kung hindi mo kaya edi umalis ka. Take note, dean pa ito ha. I mean I get that they are sticking to their retention policy pero sana magkaroon man lang ng konting compassion and not treat us as mere milking cows.
  • gordonbluegordonblue Member PExer
    Well, if you can't cope with it just stay away from it. I guess it's not for everyone. Talagang survival of the fittest dyan. Kung hindi mo na kaya edi lumipat ka. I'm sure there are many colleges in Manila willing to welcome people like you. Tamad and not so smart. Ang dami mong rants. hahaha Pasalamat ka na lang at nakinabang sayo ang Mapua. Well, in terms of money. Ha ha ha!
  • 1958mb180d1958mb180d Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    I had never heard someone say wow mapua. I always hear wow up wow la salle wow ateneo .toti yuchengco was my brother's close friend and schoolmate since grade school days at la salle taft and my cousin's next door neighbor in Forbes park and i don't think ganoon na puro pera Lang.
  • markfroilanmarkfroilan Member 🐯 Tiger Squad🥈
    quadsem per SY ba naman e. ang balibalita rin ng mga students is may mga ilang prof na ang style ng teaching is nag p-play lang ng video ng lesson at ini iwan na iyung mga bata sa classroom. pagbalik ng prof nila ay may exam or dismissal na.
  • hybridcompositehybridcomposite Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    Well it only shows na hindi para sayo ang system ng Mapua. :)
    Kung pera-pera lang ano ito (See photo below)? Saan iyong 0% and bakit majority ng program ng Mapua ay considered as enter of excellence ng CHED?

    COE: CHE, ECE, EE, CE, COE, ENSE, ME and IT
    COD: IE


    Maybe during early 2000 when Mapua is still trying to reorganize everything and try to make sure that masasala nila ang mga students and get rid off mediocre students like you.
    Yes, like "you" na walang ginawa kung hindi mag reklamo at mabilis daw sa Mapua kaya sila na bagsak.
    Oh god, In the first place alam mo na quarterm sa Mapua. Alam mo ba na pag dating sa field ay wala kang luxry na mag sabi "teka sembreak na muna ako" pag pasok mo tuloy-tuloy walang hinto. You will encounter the same scenario na within 30 mins walang abiso you need to report to your superior and provide a presentation right away including all the data plus the sangkatutak na analysis.

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  • hybridcompositehybridcomposite Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    elchoca wrote: »
    ^very true. There are other schools there that have equal or even better teaching style and facilities but won't treat you as a mere STUDENT NUMBER. In the end, it's money that counts there. If you can still enroll then go. May kilala akong nagfour takes na sa isang subject hindi pa rin nakapasa. And we are not talking about major subjects here ha. They will wait hanggang sa kusa ka na lang aalis. Ikaw ba naman almost 500k na nagagastos at hindi pa rin makagraduate. I don't know where they get their fighting spirit.

    Which school? Are you talking about UP, DLSU and ATENEO? Alam mo ba na kung mahirap sa Mapua ay parihas or mashiigit pa ang hirap sa tatlong schools na iyan? I have a friend na straight A student sa Mapua lumipat sa UPLB ChemEng at ang feedback ay masmahirap ng di hamak sa UPLB and may mga prof na one time lang pumasok? And he was paying 1500 per credit unit sa UPLB that time.

    Move on buddy, kung wala sa tatlo ang lilipatan mo and iyong sinasabi mo na "much better" nagpapatawa ka lang.
  • gordonbluegordonblue Member PExer
    ^True.Kung hindi mo na kaya edi umalis ka dyan. Ha ha ha. Dami mo pang sinasabi. In the end it all boils down to how you deal with the system. Talagang ganyan na yan and I don't think they are going to do something about it. It's your part to learn how to adjust. Survival of the fittest nga diba.
  • counterplundercounterplunder Member PEx Rookie ⭐
    Saang department yung nag 0% passing rate? Nag eenroll na lang sa Mapua ngayon dahil sa pangalan pero yeah low quality na daw talaga turo at experience tapos gusto pa ng yuchengco palitan pangalan :lol: Sana kung trimester system man lang kesa yang quarter. Ang UST sunod sunod 100% nila sa board exam ah tapos sa archi nag top perfroming school din ata sila mukhang talo na ng USTE ang Mapua laki ng improvement nila napagiwanan na nila mapua bakit nga ba eh yung entrance exam naman nila madali din hmm ano nga ba ginawa ng USTE bat biglang nagmamaw sila sa board exams.

    Pero yeah masyado kasi tayo obsessed sa board exam dito sa Philippines sa research naman tayo mahina puro board exam kasi inaatupag ng schools well except for UP siguro parang wala nga pakielam sa boards ang UP pero lagi pa rin 100% passing haha.
  • hybridcompositehybridcomposite Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    That "Alay" thing is just a myth.

    Iba ang feedback ng grumaduate na students sa mga na out at mga lumipat sa dami ng bagsak tulad ni thread starter. Ginagawang escape goat ang dahilan na commercialize daw ang sa totoo lang hindi talaga para sa slow na students ang quarter system.

    Kasi ganito iyan. Ang mga type ng mga students na pumapasok sa Mapua ay ganito.

    1. 20% A-type of students. Mga pumasa din sa UP, DLSU and ADMU sa hindi ma explain na kadahilanan pumasok sa Mapua. (I had some classmates from PhiSci, MaSci and other science high school before)

    2. 40% B-type of students. Ito iyong average to above average na students most of them may mga relatives na graduate sa Mapua. Pumasa din sa UP, DLSU and ADMU kaso nga lang hindi first choice. Sila iyong program driven type na kaya sila pumasok sa Mapua kasi nakuha nila ang first choice na engineering program na gusto nila.

    3. 40% C-type of students. Ito iyong gaya ni thread starter. Dahil hindi naman ganoon ka hirap ang admission exam ng Mapua kaya pinili pumasok. Sila iyon mga students na kaya pumasok dahil sa pangalan ng Mapua. Sila rin iyong puro bagsak and reklamador.

    Since Mapua is trying to be at par with the 3 best universities sa pinas they usually provide exams na kasing hirap ng UP, DLSU and ADMU. Dito a lalabas ang totoo. Kung ang majority na pumasok sa classe ay C type of students,talagang halos walang papasa. So, talagang wala tayo magagawa bagsak talaga sila ang mga pumasa lang talaga iyong 3 average na students out of 30 na talagang nag sipag pero pasang awa lang ang nakuha nila. Minsan nag baba ng passing may mga pinalad na C type of students na pumasa pero kaunti lang sila. Kaya sinasabi nila na “Mahirap daw sa Mapua” ang totoo hindi! Mahina lang talaga ang majority ng mga students. Kung mag swap ang buong freshmen ng UP College of Engineering sa Mapua sa isang term. I bet buong UP papasa sa exams ng Mapua and kung ang Mapua naman ay magexam sa UP, I bet parehas or maskakaunti ang papasa. At iyong mga pumasa are the same students na pumapasa sa Mapua currently.

    So feeling ng mga C type students na bumagsak ay dapat pumasa din sila, nag kakaroon ng sense of entitlement ang mga tulad ni thread starter. Pero ang totoo hindi talaga nila kinaya ang hirap ng mga exams kasi nga hindi naman sila intellectually well prepared.

    Hindi mag aadjust ang Mapua sa mga tulad nila kasi it will take time dapat sa kanila manggaling kung gusto nila makasabay. They need to work double or even triple time para diyan. Kasi tottaly walang study habits iyang mga iyan or worst mahina talaga and hindi well prepared para sa engineering program.
  • hybridcompositehybridcomposite Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    Saang department yung nag 0% passing rate? Nag eenroll na lang sa Mapua ngayon dahil sa pangalan pero yeah low quality na daw talaga turo at experience tapos gusto pa ng yuchengco palitan pangalan :lol: Sana kung trimester system man lang kesa yang quarter. Ang UST sunod sunod 100% nila sa board exam ah tapos sa archi nag top perfroming school din ata sila mukhang talo na ng USTE ang Mapua laki ng improvement nila napagiwanan na nila mapua bakit nga ba eh yung entrance exam naman nila madali din hmm ano nga ba ginawa ng USTE bat biglang nagmamaw sila sa board exams.

    Pero yeah masyado kasi tayo obsessed sa board exam dito sa Philippines sa research naman tayo mahina puro board exam kasi inaatupag ng schools well except for UP siguro parang wala nga pakielam sa boards ang UP pero lagi pa rin 100% passing haha.

    Nope. And BTW Mapua's RnD is way better than UST's College of engineering (Sa Engineering lang ha hindi overall). I'm not bashing UST, publication wise and actual RnD out put sa engineering side mas madami at maganda ang sa Mapua. UST is not even part of ERDT.

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  • hybridcompositehybridcomposite Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    Saang department yung nag 0% passing rate? Nag eenroll na lang sa Mapua ngayon dahil sa pangalan pero yeah low quality na daw talaga turo at experience tapos gusto pa ng yuchengco palitan pangalan :lol: Sana kung trimester system man lang kesa yang quarter. Ang UST sunod sunod 100% nila sa board exam ah tapos sa archi nag top perfroming school din ata sila mukhang talo na ng USTE ang Mapua laki ng improvement nila napagiwanan na nila mapua bakit nga ba eh yung entrance exam naman nila madali din hmm ano nga ba ginawa ng USTE bat biglang nagmamaw sila sa board exams.

    Pero yeah masyado kasi tayo obsessed sa board exam dito sa Philippines sa research naman tayo mahina puro board exam kasi inaatupag ng schools well except for UP siguro parang wala nga pakielam sa boards ang UP pero lagi pa rin 100% passing haha.

    Nope. And BTW Mapua's RnD is way better than UST's College of engineering (Sa Engineering lang ha hindi overall). I'm not bashing UST, publication wise and actual RnD out put sa engineering side mas madami at maganda ang sa Mapua. UST is not even part of ERDT.
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  • counterplundercounterplunder Member PEx Rookie ⭐
    ^ I just checked and I stand corrected. Oo nga maganda na rin pala passing rate ng mapua ngayon halos 80% pataas na kayo sa ME, CE, EE, and ChE. Great feat considering na ang daming nagtatake ng board sa inyo. Congrats!

    It's just tumatak kasi sa isip ko yung mga nakaraang low passing rate ng mapua at yung recently last year ata yun 2016 na bumulusok sa boards ang UST. Pero ayun chinceck ko nga ngayon ang taas na din pala ng passing rates ng mapua mukhang improving nga buti naman baka yan na yung effect ng sunod sunod na exit exams niyo? haha anyway, good job talaga, wag niyo na lang baguhin yung logo niyo mas maganda yung logo niyo dati!!
  • hybridcompositehybridcomposite Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    Saang department yung nag 0% passing rate? Nag eenroll na lang sa Mapua ngayon dahil sa pangalan pero yeah low quality na daw talaga turo at experience tapos gusto pa ng yuchengco palitan pangalan :lol: Sana kung trimester system man lang kesa yang quarter. Ang UST sunod sunod 100% nila sa board exam ah tapos sa archi nag top perfroming school din ata sila mukhang talo na ng USTE ang Mapua laki ng improvement nila napagiwanan na nila mapua bakit nga ba eh yung entrance exam naman nila madali din hmm ano nga ba ginawa ng USTE bat biglang nagmamaw sila sa board exams.

    Pero yeah masyado kasi tayo obsessed sa board exam dito sa Philippines sa research naman tayo mahina puro board exam kasi inaatupag ng schools well except for UP siguro parang wala nga pakielam sa boards ang UP pero lagi pa rin 100% passing haha.

    Saan ang laging 100% passing ng UST? UST top performing school sa engineering?

    Chemical Engineering May 2017:

    Mapua: 63.46%, Topnotchers 2, 3 and 10
    UST: 58.82%: Topnotchers, None.

    Civil Engineerig April 2017

    Mapua: 79.05%, Topnotchers 2, 3, 4 , 5, 5 and 10
    UST: 44.75% ; Topnothers, None.

    Electrical Engineering April 2017

    Mapua: 93.10% (top performing school) ; Topntchers, 8
    UST: 0% (Kayo po ang 0, although isang repeater lang nagtage pero hindi pa pumasa);Topnotchers, None

    Electronics Engineering April 2017

    Mapua: 68.87%: Topnotchers, 1, 2, 4 & 8
    UST: 57.50%%: Topnothers, None

    Electronics Technician April 2017

    Mapua: 100% (top performing school); Topnotchers, 1, 2, 2, 3 & 3
    UST: 100%; Topnotchers, None

    Mechanical Engineering March 2017

    Mapua: 97.26% ; Topnotchers: 7, 10
    UST: 72.73%; Topnotchers: None

    CHED COE & COD

    Mapua
    COE: CHE, ECE, EE, CE, COE, ENSE, ME and IT
    COD: IE

    UST
    COE: None
    COD: CE, EE, ECE, ME & IE
  • hybridcompositehybridcomposite Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    ^ I just checked and I stand corrected. Oo nga maganda na rin pala passing rate ng mapua ngayon halos 80% pataas na kayo sa ME, CE, EE, and ChE. Great feat considering na ang daming nagtatake ng board sa inyo. Congrats!

    It's just tumatak kasi sa isip ko yung mga nakaraang low passing rate ng mapua at yung recently last year ata yun 2016 na bumulusok sa boards ang UST. Pero ayun chinceck ko nga ngayon ang taas na din pala ng passing rates ng mapua mukhang improving nga buti naman baka yan na yung effect ng sunod sunod na exit exams niyo? haha anyway, good job talaga, wag niyo na lang baguhin yung logo niyo mas maganda yung logo niyo dati!!

    You're fine. That was early 2000, then Mapua starts to go back slowly by getting rid off sa mga students na gaya ni thread starter. :)
    Ewan ko ba matagal na nagiprove ang board exam results ng Mapua di lang mawala iyong stigma na iyon. At maganda ang RnD ng Mapua ngayon dami ng partner na Unis abroad.

    It simply means that the thread starter is either lying or dahil bitter lang talaga siya at napaka dami niyang bagsak niya at di siya maka sabay sa systema ng Mapua.
  • hybridcompositehybridcomposite Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    kelunji wrote: »
    Bumaba na daw ang quality at nag-iba ng thrust mula nung nabenta sa Yuchengco Group. Instead of producing quality graduates, naging pera-pera na.

    No, it's the other way around. Early 2000 when Yuchengco acquired Mapua hindi na maganda financially ang status ng Mapua and board exam passing rate, maba na talaga. Na caught lang sa transition iyong acquisition and start na ayusin ang mga curriculum ng Mapua. Sa dami ng hindi na kakaintindi, start nila sisihin iyong part na iyon. Laging escape goat iyon pag bumagbagsak ang mga students at na out.

    Well ngayon mas maayos na ang majority ng engineering programs ng Mapua in terms of board exam results. Even people from other university like DLSU admits na Mapua is right on track and catching up lalo na sa RnD to think na bago lang talaga nag concentrate sa RnD ang Mapua (they started 2010 ang alam ko).

    Again, let us try to correct ang mga haka-haka na iyan. Ma ayos ang passing rate ng Mapua check the board exams results (from my previous replies) and majority ng programs ay under ng COE ng CHED. Aside sa bonus na kung hindi dominated ang top 10 for sure mayroong present na Mapua grad sa top 10 sa board exams (bonus lang talaga ito it’s more of the passing rate) and the RnD part.
  • johnjoseph13johnjoseph13 Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    Well, the TS is also correct in claiming that the quarterm (is this correct?) system is not an ideal system given that majority of Mapua's students are average or below average. Obviously, the administration knows about this but they they treat the matter as if it is non-existent. Which brings us to the conclusion that the admin views this types of students as "feeders" to the money pit that is Mapua. Because if they really care for their students academic performance then the admin could have done either of the following:
    • be more selective in order to get a student body that is receptive to the quarterm system
    • dump the quarterm and settle for the semestral system since obviously this will give average or below average students to cope with their academics

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