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2017 PBA Commissioner's Cup QF: #3 Star vs. #6 ROS

Jay P. MercadoJay P. Mercado Moderator PEx Moderator
Best of three series.

Take your pick!

Which team will win this series? 16 votes

Star in 2 games
75%
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Star in 3 games
12%
one1smigz@70x7 2 votes
ROS in 2 games
6%
counterplunder 1 vote
ROS in 3 games
6%
vlind 1 vote
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  • pbapurefoodspbapurefoods PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    Star in 2 games
    Expect the kalabaw vs baboy box-ing match.
  • allein_stevenallein_steven PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Wow magandang series ito..

    Star in 3.
  • ironcoachironcoach game-changer PEx Guru 🎖️🎖️
    Lee vs RoS. the basketball gods can do things in its own mysterious ways. sa dinami-dami ng makakatapat..RoS pa talaga ang naka-match up.

    well, expect all the dramas and sidelights to come along on this one. should be one hell of a series. malalim ang arsenal ng RoS with Almazan, Belga, Ponferrada & J-Wash backstopping Crews..then sina Norwood, Chan, Jericho, Ahanmisi, Tiu & Tolomia tending the perimeter chores with Big Game James.

    maybe sa import lang nakaka-lamang ang Star with Ratliffe pero sa mga locals..idagdag mo pa yung absence ni Pingris..i would give the RoS locals the advantage sa manpower. Sangalang, Reavis, Aldrech, Brondial and Javier (might not even be fielded-in) vs Almazan, Belga, Jewel and J-Wash..Ratliffe has his work cut-out for him to cover for his "finesse" bigs teamates with the "battle in the paint".

    the key guys for Star in this series, i think, will be PJ Simon and Barroca. kailangan ang production nitong dalawa because i feel that mabigat na ang match-ups kina Lee, Melton, Jalalon with greyhounds Jericho, Ahanmisi, Tiu & Norwood (i can foresee Gabe being tasked to cover Lee in this series). then Maliksi vs Chan/Yap.

    sa side naman ng RoS, the bulk of the task lies on the broad shoulder of Duke Crews. kung ma-neutralize o ma-tapatan lang niya yung magiging mga numbers ni Ricardo..he could catapult the Painters past the Hotshots in this series.

    also a key to this series is yung pagtatagisan ng wits and balasa ng mga coaches. kung sino ang unang kumurap, talo.
  • popskypopsky PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Star in 2 games
    Match na match lang ang dalawang ito.

    Kailangan talaga gumana scoring ni Simon.

    Kung kaninong tempo ang masusunod, yun ang mananalo.
  • Jay P. MercadoJay P. Mercado Moderator PEx Moderator
    ironcoach wrote: »
    Lee vs RoS. the basketball gods can do things in its own mysterious ways. sa dinami-dami ng makakatapat..RoS pa talaga ang naka-match up.

    well, expect all the dramas and sidelights to come along on this one. should be one hell of a series. malalim ang arsenal ng RoS with Almazan, Belga, Ponferrada & J-Wash backstopping Crews..then sina Norwood, Chan, Jericho, Ahanmisi, Tiu & Tolomia tending the perimeter chores with Big Game James.

    maybe sa import lang nakaka-lamang ang Star with Ratliffe pero sa mga locals..idagdag mo pa yung absence ni Pingris..i would give the RoS locals the advantage sa manpower. Sangalang, Reavis, Aldrech, Brondial and Javier (might not even be fielded-in) vs Almazan, Belga, Jewel and J-Wash..Ratliffe has his work cut-out for him to cover for his "finesse" bigs teamates with the "battle in the paint".

    the key guys for Star in this series, i think, will be PJ Simon and Barroca. kailangan ang production nitong dalawa because i feel that mabigat na ang match-ups kina Lee, Melton, Jalalon with greyhounds Jericho, Ahanmisi, Tiu & Norwood (i can foresee Gabe being tasked to cover Lee in this series). then Maliksi vs Chan/Yap.

    sa side naman ng RoS, the bulk of the task lies on the broad shoulder of Duke Crews. kung ma-neutralize o ma-tapatan lang niya yung magiging mga numbers ni Ricardo..he could catapult the Painters past the Hotshots in this series.

    also a key to this series is yung pagtatagisan ng wits and balasa ng mga coaches. kung sino ang unang kumurap, talo.

    I expect at least one big game each for Paul and James. I"m favoring Star in this series because of Ratliffe, who will chalk up huge numbers in points and rebounds. I just can't see anyone from ROS stopping Ratliffe - much more, containing him. The ROS bigs might find themselves in foul trouble early on just trying to slow the big man down.

    Coach Caloy Garcia will also have to do a better job putting in the right players at the right time. I understand Garcia's full trust on his veterans, but a good coach would know who's playing well and not during the game. And since ROS isn't exactly SMB who relies heavily on their starting unit, it's best that Garcia realizes that his closers should be those who're performing well in the game while making situational substitutions for offense and defense purposes.

    Agree that Barroca may be the barometer in this game for Star. Historically, ROS has struggled defending against the former Gilas 1.0 point guard dating back to the Tim Cone days so if he gets his confidence early on, ROS may find itself facing the exit door.

    Chito Victolero has surprised me - I was one of the initial critics of Star's decision to hire Victolero when they could have gotten someone better. But ChiVi has proven me wrong, to my pleasant delight though, as he has been able to put the right chemistry in this previously struggling Star team under Jason Webb. He has clearly defined the roles of each player, and in a sense, has made Lee the acknowledged team leader despite the presence of the likes of veterans Simon, Barocca, Pingris in the team. It resounds well as Lee is playing extremely well buoyed by his confidence.
  • hapikidimilerhapikidimiler PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Star in 2 ako dito.
  • drei221drei221 PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    My prediction

    Gm1: Star
    Gm2: RoS
    Gm3: Star
  • PlainspokenPlainspoken PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    Sa 'kin ang barometer dito are the coaches. Si Coach Chito has shown that he's comfortable mixing and matching. He understands his team. Si Coach Caloy, on the other hand, at times parang overwhelmed with the talent at his disposal, which is surprising kasi matagal na sya dyan. I understand he's trying to stamp his own mark, but if kahit kaunti he'll follow the lead of Coach Yeng, and utilize their proven winning formula, then this team can be really scary still.
  • ironcoachironcoach game-changer PEx Guru 🎖️🎖️
    Yap, Chan, Jericho, J-Wash. Star doesnt have this kind of firepower..while Crews, Belga and Ponferrada have 16 "hard fouls" to inflict on Ratliffe (hindi ko na isinama si Almazan kasi baka ma-balian).

    Caloy should take this thing to a "bar-room brawl" variety to have the upperhand. Simon, Malicsi, Aldrech and Sangalang for sure mangangayaw sa pisikalan ang mga yan.

    gaano mo ba ka-gustong manalo?? well, no blood no foul. no guts no glory.
  • PorkChop :o)PorkChop :o) PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    May tulog ang mga pabebe stariray dito kapag nagkapisikalan!

    I see ROS winning in game 3 kapag nakuha nila ang game 1.

    Otherwise STARiray in 2.
  • junjun28junjun28 PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    PorkChop :o) wrote: »
    May tulog ang mga pabebe stariray dito kapag nagkapisikalan!

    I see ROS winning in game 3 kapag nakuha nila ang game 1.

    Otherwise STARiray in 2.

    Agree brad. The way ROS playing lately may chance talaga sila. Basta wag lang mapikon si ratliffe maganda laban.
  • Max_BuwayaMax_Buwaya PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    itong matchup na ito ang pinakabalanse sa apat. no clear underdog.
  • ironcoachironcoach game-changer PEx Guru 🎖️🎖️
    Max_Buwaya wrote: »
    itong matchup na ito ang pinakabalanse sa apat. no clear underdog.

    pero hindi sa nagyayabang (stating facts lang): kung wala si Lee dyan sa Star..magiging dehado sila dyan antimano. lets just hope he didn't over-rate himself. last conference dun sa ginebra series wherein inaasahan siya eh bigla siyang dumisappear.

    i see Norwood shadowing Lee sa series na ito. hopefully Star prevails pero lamang talaga ang RoS sa "strength in numbers" game. mga anim o pito rin ang mga "max-players" nila riyan.
  • PorkChop :o)PorkChop :o) PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Lalaro ba si ping? If hindi hirap sa loob ang star si cardo lang talaga ang maaasahan! Sana di masira ang laro sa mga pasimple ni belga.

    I see tiu and norword giving stariray's lee and barocca a hard time. Magulang din si tiu eh tapos cruz and bus driver match up!

    James and simon will be a classic matchup lamang lang ng konti si james.

    Problema lang sino magcontain kay almazan? Si ian o si rafi?
  • popskypopsky PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Star in 2 games
    Kinatatakutan ko dito ang pumutok si J-wash at papa james.

    May tulog talaga stariray dito lalo kapag hindi nagbago yung slow start nila.
  • popskypopsky PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Star in 2 games
    PorkChop :o) wrote: »
    Lalaro ba si ping? If hindi hirap sa loob ang star si cardo lang talaga ang maaasahan! Sana di masira ang laro sa mga pasimple ni belga.

    I see tiu and norword giving stariray's lee and barocca a hard time. Magulang din si tiu eh tapos cruz and bus driver match up!

    James and simon will be a classic matchup lamang lang ng konti si james.

    Problema lang sino magcontain kay almazan? Si ian o si rafi?


    Wala pa si Ping. Asa muna kay Cardo. Saka kay dadi ribis na tingin ko magkakaroon ng mahabang oras sa serye.
  • Player_1Player_1 PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Para manalo Star dito, kelangan pumutok mga outside shooters nila para lumuwag sa loob para makagawa si Ratliffe.

    Para manalo RoS dito, wag ibabangko yung maiinit nang matagal. At wag magmimintis ng freethrows.
  • BubblesButtercupBubblesButtercup I Love Holly Golightly!!! PEx Expert 🎖️
    Kala ko twice to beat ang starirays kaya Ros in 3 ako dito.

    Sa regular season lang naman malupet yung isang team e.
  • ironcoachironcoach game-changer PEx Guru 🎖️🎖️
    Kala ko twice to beat ang starirays kaya Ros in 3 ako dito.

    Sa regular season lang naman malupet yung isang team e.

    biglang may sumaping kathang-isip sakin after reading your post. if im not mistaken eh TNT-SMB, GSM-Star na ang pumasok sa Final 4 in the previous conference??

    then silang apat (or Meralco/MVP takes the place of TNT) na naman ba uli this conference??

    Di kaya magsi-disband na niyan yung dalawang "authentic" na independent team kung ganon na naman ang kalalabasan?

    Would they allow Ginebra to be dethroned by the 8th seed (could be Alaska) or mas pasang-awa sa panlasa ang i-sakripisyo ang Star to have some variety sa mga entries?

    Wow! i would be very very worried camper if were a Star fan right now.
  • Jay P. MercadoJay P. Mercado Moderator PEx Moderator
    ironcoach wrote: »
    biglang may sumaping kathang-isip sakin after reading your post. if im not mistaken eh TNT-SMB, GSM-Star na ang pumasok sa Final 4 in the previous conference??

    then silang apat (or Meralco/MVP takes the place of TNT) na naman ba uli this conference??

    Di kaya magsi-disband na niyan yung dalawang "authentic" na independent team kung ganon na naman ang kalalabasan?

    Would they allow Ginebra to be dethroned by the 8th seed (could be Alaska) or mas pasang-awa sa panlasa ang i-sakripisyo ang Star to have some variety sa mga entries?

    Wow! i would be very very worried camper if were a Star fan right now.

    I wouldn't worry about that too much, Coach.

    I've always felt that the Commissioner's Office, particularly the one occupying at present, is extremely short-sighted and doesn't think too much of the long-term. What he does want is a coliseum full of fans and TV ratings that will compete versus the major networks. To achieve that, he would want to have the 3 SMC teams in the semifinals plus one MVP team. Let him worry how the indie teams would react later. For now, he'd want to achieve short-term success, particularly in the gate receipts.

    Another perspective is that if these two indie teams do become frustrated, there are still interested companies that can replace them. Chooks-To-Go has already expressed its intent of joining the PBA; Hapee has already signified its intent a year ago, plus a couple of companies in the pipeline. Maybe Tanduay would be interested as well? :naughty:
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