military can contain Maute grp even w/out martial law

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that is from the the defense secretary Lorenzana of the Dutete admin - martial law was not needed.



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  • sargosargo got balls PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Military can contain Maute even without martial law, defense chief tells senators

    ABS-CBN News

    Posted at May 30 2017 04:10 PM

    Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana told lawmakers during a martial law briefing that government troops could contain the Maute terrorist group in Marawi City even without the declaration of martial law, minority senators claimed on Tuesday.

    "During the closed-door briefing yesterday, the question asked pointedly by Senator [Antonio] Trillanes was, 'Can we contain Maute without martial law?' The answer of Secretary Lorenzana was, 'Yes, we can,'" Senate minority leader Franklin Drilon said in a press conference.

    Top security officials met with members of Congress in a closed-door meeting Monday to discuss the basis of President Rodrigo Duterte's declaration of martial law in Mindanao after fighting broke out between government forces and the Maute terrorist group last week.

    "When asked, the security officials said, hindi sila yung nagrekomenda (na magdeklara ng martial law)," Senator Antonio Trillanes IV said.

    http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/05/30/17/military-can-contain-maute-even-without-martial-law-defense-chief-tells-senators
  • joerizjoeriz Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Defense Secretary Lorenzana next to get fired for contradicting Duterte?
    We'll see.
  • elBartoloelBartolo Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Contained, oo. Pero balik na naman sa simula. Mabuti na yung tapusin na once and for all.
    Tsaka, wala naman kayong pakialam sa mga "hillbillies" di ba? Itigil ang kaplastikan at simulan ng magreklamo sa Supreme Court.

    Takot nyo lang kasi wala na kayong pwede gamiting material laban kay Duterte. Naipalibing na si Marcos, nadeclare na ang martial law. :lol:
  • 070888070888 Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    Ano pinagkaiba ng diskarte ng afp ngayong may martial law at diskarte nila kung walang martial law? Malaki ba pagkakaiba?

    Sabi 85% as of yday daw ng marawi hawak ng gobyerno kung hindi ba nagdeklara ng martial law baka o siguradong mas mabagal o mababa sa 85% nabawi ng afp o parehas lang? With or without ml ang mahalaga mapulbos mga maute.
  • marcus_huntmarcus_hunt Member PExer
    From Manila, you can go and visit Baguio w/o a riding a vehicle.
  • Nietono_no_ShanaNietono_no_Shana Coup de Gr?ce PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    @sargo

    With reference to the title it just say contain, not eliminate. Thus IMHO if you just contain them, they will just be a problem again in the near future.

    And IMHO there is no point in having a closed door meeting if they will just leak out the contents after the meeting.
  • blue_tracerblue_tracer soundscapes PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    with or without martial law, puwedeng ma contain ng govt. forces ang maute group.

    komo may link itong grupo sa isis, bakit hindi pa mag martial law sa mindanao para mas lalung makakilos ng maayos ang gobyerno? mas mabuti na 'yung may allowance. kasi nakakahiya naman sa mga kulay nana pag nagtagal pa itong grupo sa marawi 'di ba, puna at batikos na naman aabutin ng gobyerno. :glee:
  • lee_mclinolee_mclino Member PExer
    nagpapraktis na si doggy, para sa nationwide ML. kelangan na nyang bilisan, kasi mukhang nabibilang na ang araw, sabi nya mismo 3 years lamang itatagal nya di ba? dapat mapasa na niya ang korona :D
  • orochimarusamaorochimarusama Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    18814610_1829172194067097_4130922989942227663_o.jpg?oh=a151e1ffe6e4da1409255179bc3d7f52&oe=59B0345C :rotflmao:
  • h0lysh|tyousuckh0lysh|tyousuck B?nned by Adm?n PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    'You do not contradict your government -- este ako pala! You must not contradict me! Gusto mo sumunod sa DDB chairman ano?'

    - DDS King


    'Tengenengyen si Lorenzana. Dilawan yan. Malamang adik din. Bulilyaso na yung negosyo niyang druglord na yan! Ipa-rape ka sana ni tatay pag nag-declare ng ML, nationwide! Sobrang ang tuwa ko pag nangyari yan! Matokhang ka sana!'

    - DDS King's zealots
  • cinelamourcinelamour Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    From Manila, you can go and visit Baguio w/o a riding a vehicle.

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha :lol:
  • sargosargo got balls PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    @sargo

    With reference to the title it just say contain, not eliminate. Thus IMHO if you just contain them, they will just be a problem again in the near future.

    And IMHO there is no point in having a closed door meeting if they will just leak out the contents after the meeting.

    regardless the semantics used, Secretary of Defense Lorenzana said martial law is not needed
  • sargosargo got balls PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
  • sargosargo got balls PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
  • maverick_2016maverick_2016 Member PExer
    Buti pa tong si Lorenzana may paninindigan at laman ang utak di gaya ng mga karamihan sa mga senatongs natin.
  • rodinarodina Member PExer
    sargo wrote: »

    Nyahaha! Selective reading na naman. Pinag fiestahan ang isang parte sa statement ni Sec Lorenzana. And based on this, the minority party pushed for a joint session of Congress to tackle the issue of ML in Mindanao. Tough luck for them... naudlot ang plano dahil 15 senators voted for ML in Mindanao-- still based on Sec Lorenzana and company's explanations.:p

    Here's what Senator Sotto said about the minority party's focus on a particular statement of Sec Lorenzana:

    Majority Leader Vicente Sotto III, an ally of Duterte, said the minority bloc gave a different “slant” on what was discussed during the briefing.

    “Slant na naman yan eh. Ang slant kasi ng anti-Duterte, yun ang gusto palabasin agad. Eh ako hindi ganun ang pagkaka-intindi ko eh,” Sotto said.

    “Ang sinasabi niya siya, si Secretary Lorenzana personally hindi siya ang nag-recommend. Hindi somebody, [it was] the intelligence arm of the Armed Forces [who made the recommendation]...Sabi niya, ‘me personally I didn’t. Pero iba yung J2,” he added.

    Sotto said he also had the impression from the briefing that authorities “need” martial law in area.

    “Ang intindi ko they need it...The slant is always different. When you’re anti-Duterte, the slant will always will be anti-Duterte,” Sotto said.


    http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/612635/defense-execs-say-they-didn-t-recommend-martial-law-opposition-solons/story/


    The real story...

    Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana confirmed Wednesday that he told senators during the executive session that government forces can contain the situation in Marawi City even without the declaration of martial law.

    In a press statement, Lorenzana said his exact words during an executive session with senators on May 29 were "the government security forces can contain the situation in Marawi City even without martial law.” He said that he also told senators that the declaration of martial law was, however, imperative to once and for all address security concerns in the entire Mindanao immediately and decisively.


    <<<snipped>>>>

    The Defense secretary said the situation currently being dealt with by state security forces goes beyond Marawi City.

    “President Duterte’s imposition of martial law aims to put an end to the long running rebellion in various provinces in the South, as evidenced by the incidents that happened in Zamboanga, Davao, Bohol, Lanao, Basilan, Sulu, Tawi-tawi and Maguindanao,” he said.

    He reiterated the the President’s statement that “kung magdi-declare ako ng martial law, tatapusin ko nang lahat ito,” referring to threats posed by ISIS-linked local and foreign terrorist groups whose network covers the entire Mindanao.


    Read more at: http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/612750/lorenzana-confirms-he-said-gov-t-forces-can-contain-marawi-crisis-without-martial-law/story/#sthash.0l8Xq4EP.dpuf
  • MechandaRobotMechandaRobot Banned by Admin PExer
    Ikaw Sargo punta ka Mindanao at labanan mo Maute. Leche ka mga kagaya mong hudas bayaran ang dapat nang mamatay. Leche na lang. HEhehehehe:rotflmao:
  • gotta lick itgotta lick it Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    maybe the Senators has a cut in the Presidential Intelligence fund?







    kung yun mas malakas at maraming MNLF natalo natin sa Zamboanga ng walang Military Rule bakit kailanga sa Marawi na 50 lang ang Maute.
  • 070888070888 Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    maybe the Senators has a cut in the Presidential Intelligence fund?







    kung yun mas malakas at maraming MNLF natalo natin sa Zamboanga ng walang Military Rule bakit kailanga sa Marawi na 50 lang ang Maute.

    Hindi pa daw involved ISIS noon.
  • mimigsmimigs Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    rodina wrote: »
    Nyahaha! Selective reading na naman. Pinag fiestahan ang isang parte sa statement ni Sec Lorenzana. And based on this, the minority party pushed for a joint session of Congress to tackle the issue of ML in Mindanao. Tough luck for them... naudlot ang plano dahil 15 senators voted for ML in Mindanao-- still based on Sec Lorenzana and company's explanations.:p

    Here's what Senator Sotto said about the minority party's focus on a particular statement of Sec Lorenzana:

    Majority Leader Vicente Sotto III, an ally of Duterte, said the minority bloc gave a different “slant” on what was discussed during the briefing.

    “Slant na naman yan eh. Ang slant kasi ng anti-Duterte, yun ang gusto palabasin agad. Eh ako hindi ganun ang pagkaka-intindi ko eh,” Sotto said.

    “Ang sinasabi niya siya, si Secretary Lorenzana personally hindi siya ang nag-recommend. Hindi somebody, [it was] the intelligence arm of the Armed Forces [who made the recommendation]...Sabi niya, ‘me personally I didn’t. Pero iba yung J2,” he added.

    Sotto said he also had the impression from the briefing that authorities “need” martial law in area.

    “Ang intindi ko they need it...The slant is always different. When you’re anti-Duterte, the slant will always will be anti-Duterte,” Sotto said.


    http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/612635/defense-execs-say-they-didn-t-recommend-martial-law-opposition-solons/story/


    The real story...

    Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana confirmed Wednesday that he told senators during the executive session that government forces can contain the situation in Marawi City even without the declaration of martial law.

    In a press statement, Lorenzana said his exact words during an executive session with senators on May 29 were "the government security forces can contain the situation in Marawi City even without martial law.” He said that he also told senators that the declaration of martial law was, however, imperative to once and for all address security concerns in the entire Mindanao immediately and decisively.


    <<<snipped>>>>

    The Defense secretary said the situation currently being dealt with by state security forces goes beyond Marawi City.

    “President Duterte’s imposition of martial law aims to put an end to the long running rebellion in various provinces in the South, as evidenced by the incidents that happened in Zamboanga, Davao, Bohol, Lanao, Basilan, Sulu, Tawi-tawi and Maguindanao,” he said.

    He reiterated the the President’s statement that “kung magdi-declare ako ng martial law, tatapusin ko nang lahat ito,” referring to threats posed by ISIS-linked local and foreign terrorist groups whose network covers the entire Mindanao.


    Read more at: http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/612750/lorenzana-confirms-he-said-gov-t-forces-can-contain-marawi-crisis-without-martial-law/story/#sthash.0l8Xq4EP.dpuf

    gusto ata ng anti pduts at yellows, ma contain lang at hinde ma defeat ang maute para pag dilaw na nakaupo tuloy2 ulit ang droga at may malaking runner/pusher na ulit sa buong mindanao :bop:

    na miss nila yung mga balitang sanggol ni rape ng addict! :(
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