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Israel's Journey Back to God

ramblerrambler I wait for You, my Savior. PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
Hello, guys. Every day that passes brings us closer to prophetic events laid out in the Bible. In this thread, I will discuss Israel's journey back to God in detail. I will post news, tidbits, and articles about Israel. So let's dive in.
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  • ramblerrambler I wait for You, my Savior. PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Perhaps in the history of mankind, there has never been a group of people so stubborn and headstrong as Israel. lol Matitigas talaga ang ulo ng mga Jews, kaya sila nakatikim ng judgments at hanggang ngayon hindi pa rin nila ma-fulfill ang destiny nila as a nation.

    But you see, their being bullheaded has nothing to do with the ultimate fulfillment of God's promises to Abraham. They have stumbled because of the Law, of the Mosaic Covenant, but the Abrahamic Covenant still stands.

    The Mosaic Covenant or the Law is a covenant based on cause and effect: do this and you will reap this. And if, in spite of all this, you still disobey Me, I will punish you seven times over for your sins. (Lev. 26:18) The Law of Karma, kumbaga.

    But the Abrahamic Covenant is something else. It is a covenant not based on man's end of the bargain, but God's. This is the theme of Romans 4.

    It was not through the law that Abraham and his offspring received the promise that he would be heir of the world, but through the righteousness that comes by faith. (verse 13)

    Now to the one who works, wages are not credited as a gift but as an obligation. However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness. (verse 4-5)


    A time will come when Israel will realize that salvation does not come from obeying the Law, but by being putting your faith in Christ. Revelation 7:4 says that when you put your faith in Christ, you died to the Law. And that there is no more condemnation if you belong to Christ. (Romans 8:1)

    Israel right now is at a crossroads. But I feel it my heart that God will bring His attention back to them once more, and in their darkest moment while being pursued by the antichrist and his armies, they will call on to Jesus. And Jesus, the God they rejected in calvary, will come to their rescue and set up a Jewish Kingdom for 1,000 years.
  • ramblerrambler I wait for You, my Savior. PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    The remarkable thing about the Jews is that no matter how long they have been away from their homeland, that sense of connection remains. Ang ibang lahi, usually, ilang generations lang, nawawala ang koneksyon nila sa kanilang pinanggalingan. Pero ang mga Jews, kakaiba. Kahit thousands of years na silang hindi nakauwi sa Israel, parang may humahatak sa kanila na umuwi sa kanilang bayan.

    Katulad na lang ng Bnei Menashe sa India. They haven't gone home for 3,000 years, but now they are making "aliyah" to Israel. Aliyah is a Hebrew word that means "journey back home".

    In case you're skeptical, hindi naman basta basta tumatanggap ang Israel nang kung sino na lang. Occasionally, the Israeli government may require DNA testing to prove a certain tribe's Jewish lineage. And that's another remarkable thing about Israel. They tend to have a distinct genetic pool that is unmistakably Jewish.
  • sophionsophion Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    so paano ba maliligtas ang mga jews? when they accept jeeezus as their lord and savior? not gonna happen. :p
  • ramblerrambler I wait for You, my Savior. PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    sophion wrote: »
    so paano ba maliligtas ang mga jews? when they accept jeeezus as their lord and savior? not gonna happen. :p

    Sure ka? Kasi sabi sa Zechariah 12:10 -

    "And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit[a] of grace and supplication. They will look on Me, the One they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son."

    Their conversion will happen towards the end of the tribulation, when everything seems hopeless, and only a third of them survives.
  • HermesTrismegistusHermesTrismegistus III PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    rambler wrote: »

    mukhang pilipino yang nasa india. di malayong lost tribe din ng israel ang pilipinas dati.
  • ramblerrambler I wait for You, my Savior. PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    mukhang pilipino yang nasa india. di malayong lost tribe din ng israel ang pilipinas dati.

    Hmm..I know there are Jews who landed in the Philippines fleeing the Holocaust, but Jews who interbred with Malays? I doubt it.

    Another characteristic of Jewish communities around the world is that they tend to keep Jewish traditions even after thousands of years. That's why they were often persecuted, kasi kakaiba ang kanilang customs. Here's another interesting story of Jews returning to their homeland:

    Operation Magic Carpet :lol:
    There was a small Jewish community, mostly members of Bnei Chorath, lived in one border city from 1934 until 1950. The Yemeni city of Najran was conquered by Saudi forces in 1934, absorbing its Jewish community, which dates to pre-Islamic times. With increased persecution, the Jews of Najran made plans to evacuate. The local governor at the time, Amir Turki ben Mahdi, allowed the 600 Najrani Jews a single day on which to either evacuate or never leave again. Saudi soldiers accompanied them to the Yemeni border. These Jews arrived in Saada, and some 200 continued south to Aden between September and October 1949. The Saudi King Abdulaziz demanded their return, but the Yemeni king, Ahmad bin Yahya refused, because these refugees were Yemenite Jews. After settling in the Hashid Camp (also called Mahane Geula) they were airlifted to Israel as part of the larger Operation Magic Carpet.
  • HermesTrismegistusHermesTrismegistus III PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    rambler wrote: »
    Hmm..I know there are Jews who landed in the Philippines fleeing the Holocaust, but Jews who interbred with Malays? I doubt it.

    Another characteristic of Jewish communities around the world is that they tend to keep Jewish traditions even after thousands of years. That's why they were often persecuted, kasi kakaiba ang kanilang customs. Here's another interesting story of Jews returning to their homeland:

    Operation Magic Carpet :lol:

    i would think that the original jews were not white ashkenazis. the original jews were somewhat multicultural, apart from the native semites which are arab looking coz we've read from the bible that they had ships going to ophir and tarshish or maybe somewhere else. the orignal israel most likely had immigrants from those places. that's why you have lost tribes that are white, black, chinese and austroneseans, or probably native americans.
  • ramblerrambler I wait for You, my Savior. PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Eto naman ang Kaifeng Jews from China:
  • ramblerrambler I wait for You, my Savior. PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    i would think that the original jews were not white ashkenazis. the original jews were somewhat multicultural, apart from the native semites which are arab looking coz we've read from the bible that they had ships going to ophir and tarshish or maybe somewhere else. the orignal israel most likely had immigrants from those places. that's why you have lost tribes that are white, black, chinese and austroneseans, or probably native americans.

    Yes and no. I think the dominant group is the Ashkenazi Jews, but there are other Jewish groups from other places based on Acts 2:5-9 --
    "Now there were staying in Jerusalem God-fearing Jews from every nation under heaven. When they heard this sound, a crowd came together in bewilderment, because each one heard their own language being spoken. Utterly amazed, they asked: “Aren’t all these who are speaking Galileans? Then how is it that each of us hears them in our native language Parthians, Medes and Elamites; residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya near Cyrene; visitors from Rome (both Jews and converts to Judaism); Cretans and Arabs—we hear them declaring the wonders of God in our own tongues!”
  • HermesTrismegistusHermesTrismegistus III PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    rambler wrote: »
    Yes and no. I think the dominant group is the Ashkenazi Jews, but there are other Jewish groups from other places based on Acts 2:5-9 --

    then why do you have the beta israelites, the kaifeng jews and the group of jews that you posted? if israels ships have gone to far flung place like ophir and tarshish, they must've included human cargoes aka immigrants or must've established or proselytized the people of their destinations.

    and ashkenazis were converted europeans. the native people of middle east are semites or arab looking. so the original jews in the old israel were arab looking.
  • KidlatNgayonKidlatNgayon Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Israel of God does not refer to the country and people of Israel at present but to the church:

    Isaiah 55:8
    Verse Concepts
    "For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways," declares the LORD.

    Romans 9:6-28
    New Living Translation
    6 Well then, has God failed to fulfill his promise to Israel? No, for not all who are born into the nation of Israel are truly members of God's people! 7 Being descendants of Abraham doesn't make them truly Abraham's children. For the Scriptures say, "Isaac is the son through whom your descendants will be counted," though Abraham had other children, too. 8 This means that Abraham's physical descendants are not necessarily children of God. Only the children of the promise are considered to be Abraham's children. 9 For God had promised, "I will return about this time next year, and Sarah will have a son." 10 This son was our ancestor Isaac. When he married Rebekah, she gave birth to twins. 11 But before they were born, before they had done anything good or bad, she received a message from God. (This message shows that God chooses people according to his own purposes; 12 he calls people, but not according to their good or bad works.) She was told, "Your older son will serve your younger son." 13 In the words of the Scriptures, "I loved Jacob, but I rejected Esau." 14 Are we saying, then, that God was unfair? Of course not! 15 For God said to Moses, "I will show mercy to anyone I choose, and I will show compassion to anyone I choose." 16 So it is God who decides to show mercy. We can neither choose it nor work for it. 17 For the Scriptures say that God told Pharaoh, "I have appointed you for the very purpose of displaying my power in you and to spread my fame throughout the earth." 18 So you see, God chooses to show mercy to some, and he chooses to harden the hearts of others so they refuse to listen. 19 Well then, you might say, "Why does God blame people for not responding? Haven't they simply done what he makes them do?" 20 No, don't say that. Who are you, a mere human being, to argue with God? Should the thing that was created say to the one who created it, "Why have you made me like this?" 21 When a potter makes jars out of clay, doesn't he have a right to use the same lump of clay to make one jar for decoration and another to throw garbage into? 22 In the same way, even though God has the right to show his anger and his power, he is very patient with those on whom his anger falls, who are destined for destruction. 23 He does this to make the riches of his glory shine even brighter on those to whom he shows mercy, who were prepared in advance for glory. 24 And we are among those whom he selected, both from the Jews and from the Gentiles. 25 Concerning the Gentiles, God says in the prophecy of Hosea, "Those who were not my people, I will now call my people. And I will love those whom I did not love before." 26 And, "Then, at the place where they were told, 'You are not my people,' there they will be called 'children of the living God.'" 27 And concerning Israel, Isaiah the prophet cried out, "Though the people of Israel are as numerous as the sand of the seashore, only a remnant will be saved. 28 For the LORD will carry out his sentence upon the earth quickly and with finality."
  • sophionsophion Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    rambler wrote: »
    Sure ka? Kasi sabi sa Zechariah 12:10 -

    "And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit[a] of grace and supplication. They will look on Me, the One they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son."

    Their conversion will happen towards the end of the tribulation, when everything seems hopeless, and only a third of them survives.

    jews went through so many tribulations...
    some did convert to catholicism during the spanish reconquista but only on the surface. and only very few.
    and what can top the holocaust? even that did not lead to conversions.
  • ElCidElCid Roman Catholic PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    sophion wrote: »
    jews went through so many tribulations...
    some did convert to catholicism during the spanish reconquista but only on the surface. and only very few.
    and what can top the holocaust? even that did not lead to conversions.

    Humirit ka na naman Sobug0k - The Mouth of Moron. May maniniwala naman kaya? Bwahahahahaha.
  • HermesTrismegistusHermesTrismegistus III PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    ElCid wrote: »
    The Mouth of Moron

    :rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:
  • aidaaida Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Israel of God does not refer to the country and people of Israel at present but to the church:

    Ang "ISRAEL" ay tumutukoy sa mga PILI ng Dios:

    Is 44:1 Yet now hear, O Jacob my servant; and Israel, whom I have chosen..."

    Rom 9:6 "Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:"
  • KidlatNgayonKidlatNgayon Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    aida wrote: »
    Ang "ISRAEL" ay tumutukoy sa mga PILI ng Dios:

    Is 44:1 Yet now hear, O Jacob my servant; and Israel, whom I have chosen..."

    Rom 9:6 "Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:"

    Tama yan, mabuti at alam mo. Ang pinili ng Diyos ay nasa katawan ni Cristo na siya Niyang iglesia:

    1 Corinthians 12:12-27
    King James Bible:

    Many Members, One Body
    12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. 13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

    14 For the body is not one member, but many. 15 If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? 16 And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? 17 If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling? 18 But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him. 19 And if they were all one member, where were the body? 20 But now are they many members, yet but one body. 21 And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you. 22 Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary: 23 And those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness. 24 For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked: 25 That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another. 26 And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it.

    27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.

    The BODY OF CHRIST IS the CHURCH!

    Colossians 1:24
    King James Bible
    Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church:
  • ramblerrambler I wait for You, my Savior. PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Do you pass the Israel Test? :)
  • ramblerrambler I wait for You, my Savior. PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Finally, the two great leaders meet! Long live Israel and America! *pinkcheer**pinkcheer**pinkcheer*
  • sophionsophion Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    ElPsycho wrote: »
    Sobug0k - The Mouth of Moron

    'mouth of moron', well that js a good one i'll give you that. but nothing that cant be easily rectified. ;)

    pero iyung 'sobug0k' ang layo eh. :lol:

    try ulit baka tsumamba ka nanaman. :D
  • ramblerrambler I wait for You, my Savior. PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    I like what Trump said in this meeting:

    "This is one more reason why we reject unfair and one-sided actions against Israel at the United Nations, which treated Israel, in my opinion, very very unfairly, or other international forums as well as boycotts that target Israel."

    I'm happy with this sudden shift in the US foreign policy, after Obama's devilish actions against Israel. But I don't really trust Trump. Anything can happen. It's possible that we'll wake up one day and he'll have a complete turnaround and become one of Israel's oppressors. After all, the Bible prophesies that Israel will stand on her own against the whole world in the last days.

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