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Hindi daw maoobserbahan ang big bang ayon kay KidlatNgayon

ElCidElCid Roman Catholic PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
Tinututulan ni Kid yung sinabi ko na ang tools of science observation and experimentation lol:

Scientists obtain a great deal of the evidence they use by observing natural and experimentally generated objects and effects. Much of the standard philosophical literature on this subject comes from 20th century logical positivists and empiricists, their followers, and critics who embraced their issues and accepted some of their assumptions even as they objected to specific views. Their discussions of observational evidence tend to focus on epistemological questions about its role in theory testing. This entry follows their lead even though observational evidence also plays important and philosophically interesting roles in other areas including scientific discovery and the application of scientific theories to practical problems. Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy

Originally Posted by KidlatNgayon View Post

Paano mo ma-o-observe ang process na yan na sinasabing 13 billion years daw na nabuo? buwang! Yung evolution nga hindi mo ma-o-observe. Kung talagang galing sa unggoy ang tao bakit me unggoy pa?

http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=824321&p=75988003&viewfull=1#post75988003

Ang sagot ko naman hindi kailangan andun ka 13 billion years ago dahil yung epekto ng big bang hanggang ngayon ramdam - yung ang inoobserbahan b0p0l:

In a similar way, scientists with the international POLARBEAR collaboration want to use a diffuse light that fills every corner of the cosmos to indicate where there is matter and where there is none. POLARBEAR studies the cosmic microwave background (CMB) — the surviving light from the infant universe that is normally seen a kind of baby picture of the cosmos. Scientists estimate the universe is about 13.8 billion years old. [The History & Structure of the Universe in Pictures]

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Another classic remark from KidlatNgayon :rotflmao:. May dagdag pa: Yung evolution nga hindi mo ma-o-observe. Kung talagang galing sa unggoy ang tao bakit me unggoy pa?

Tinututulan yung bagay na hindi niya alam kung ano dahil wala namang sinabi ang TAO galing sa UNGGOY/ APES/ CHIMPS/ GORILLAS except that we share a common ancestor as a HYPOTHESIS. Malaki ang kaibhan noon sa mga taong may matinong pag-iisip. :rotflmao:

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  • KidlatNgayonKidlatNgayon Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    13 billion years! Sino at paano inumpisahang "obserbahan" ang "Big Bang"? :lol: :rotflmao:
  • KAGEMUSHAKAGEMUSHA Nobody! PExer
    13 billion years! Sino at paano inumpisahang "obserbahan" ang "Big Bang"? :lol: :rotflmao:

    e di umpisa noong mabuo ang theory,
    naniniwala ka ba sa expanding universe?
  • KravenKraven Member PExer
    ^ hindi nga naniniwala (di rin naiintindihan) si kidlat sa evolution or sa first law ng thermodynamics, expanding universe pa kaya. :)
  • KidlatNgayonKidlatNgayon Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    KAGEMUSHA wrote: »
    e di umpisa noong mabuo ang theory,
    naniniwala ka ba sa expanding universe?

    Sino ang nagpasa mula ng noong 13B years na nag-observe sa mga nag-oobserve sa mga panahong ito na mabuo ang theory na yan?

    Ayon kay El Cid ay based daw sa observation and experimentation ang syensya at yun daw "ramdam" ngayon ay nangyari noon. So paano mapapatunayang naramdaman noong billions of years ago ang ramdam ngayon e based nga daw sa observation. Sino ang mga nag-observe noong billions of years ago sa phenomenon na yan na naipasa nila sa mga scientists na nag=o=observe ngayon? :lol: :rotflmao:

    Ayon sa more recents studies, ang universe ay nag-e-expand pero noon ay nag-expand yan spontaneously ayon sa pagkakalikha ng Creator and Designer!
  • KidlatNgayonKidlatNgayon Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Kraven wrote: »
    ^ hindi nga naniniwala (di rin naiintindihan) si kidlat sa evolution or sa first law ng thermodynamics, expanding universe pa kaya. :)

    Kung magsalita ito ay parang me alam siya na kahit ano! :lol: :rotflmao:
  • KAGEMUSHAKAGEMUSHA Nobody! PExer
    Sino ang nagpasa mula ng noong 13B years na nag-observe sa mga nag-oobserve sa mga panahong ito na mabuo ang theory na yan?

    Ayon kay El Cid ay based daw sa observation and experimentation ang syensya at yun daw "ramdam" ngayon ay nangyari noon. So paano mapapatunayang naramdaman noong billions of years ago ang ramdam ngayon e based nga daw sa observation. Sino ang mga nag-observe noong billions of years ago sa phenomenon na yan na naipasa nila sa mga scientists na nag=o=observe ngayon? :lol: :rotflmao:

    Ayon sa more recents studies, ang universe ay nag-e-expand pero noon ay nag-expand yan spontaneously ayon sa pagkakalikha ng Creator and Designer!

    You don't have to go back to billions of years ago.
    Parang creation of stars, they are able to compute the time when a star was born by analyzing its behavior and other related characteristics.
  • KidlatNgayonKidlatNgayon Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    KAGEMUSHA wrote: »
    You don't have to go back to billions of years ago.
    Parang creation of stars, they are able to compute the time when a star was born by analyzing its behavior and other related characteristics.

    Well then, hindi yan observation kundi estimation, guesswork, opinion. Malayo pa rin sa katotohanan :D

    Sinong paniniwalaan ko, ang biblia o ang tao? :D
  • KAGEMUSHAKAGEMUSHA Nobody! PExer
    Well then, hindi yan observation kundi estimation, guesswork, opinion. Malayo pa rin sa katotohanan :D

    Sinong paniniwalaan ko, ang biblia o ang tao? :D

    It's science.

    So hindi pala naniniwala sa science ang mga INC?
  • KidlatNgayonKidlatNgayon Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    KAGEMUSHA wrote: »
    It's science.

    So hindi pala naniniwala sa science ang mga INC?

    Science is a process by which man's higher learning diverted him from believing the Holy Scriptures, thereby analyzing everything in human terms. The bible has already clearly stated the creation of all material things but man did not believe it.

    As man cannot go back "billions of years" from when this formation took place, he resorted to analysis, hypotheses, estimation, guess work. None of these words imply truth.

    The bible even prophesied man's higher learning and disbelief in God's creation of the world at a time that mankind will "rush to and fro:

    Daniel 12"4
    New Living Translation
    But you, Daniel, keep this prophecy a secret; seal up the book until the time of the end, when many will rush here and there, and knowledge will increase."

    All I'm saying is lumalayo ang tao sa biblia upang i-explain ang phenomena ng pagbuo ng sanlibutan pero pagkatapos nilang matuklasan ito, nasa biblia na pala! :lol:
  • KAGEMUSHAKAGEMUSHA Nobody! PExer
    The bible even prophesied man's higher learning and disbelief in God's creation of the world at a time that mankind will "rush to and fro:

    Daniel 12"4
    New Living Translation
    But you, Daniel, keep this prophecy a secret; seal up the book until the time of the end, when many will rush here and there, and knowledge will increase."

    :lol:

    saan sinabi sa verse na yan yung "disbelief in God's creation of the world at a time that mankind will "rush to and fro:"?
  • ramblerrambler I wait for You, my Savior. PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Mga echosera talaga ang mga tao dito. I bet most people here still picture gravity as a force rather than an object's movement along a geodesic path of space-time curvature. :glee:

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