Gilas Pilipinas 5.0

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Gilas cadets era na ba talaga ulit? Sana maganda maging arrangement nito, the more we compete the better we get

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  • JAS_39_GripenJAS_39_Gripen Member PExer
    Probably back to a cadet program with FIBA's new ******** qualifying format.

    Unless the SBP and PBA can sit down and somehow come to a scheduling agreement - PBA postpones games for a two week period for a Gilas to play qualifier games.

    That arrangement might work out better for the PBA - no month or two month long build up, which hurts players more than this new format - but the PBA hasn't been known to make radical adjustments like that.

    Going back to the cadet format might he a necessary change, but it makes our program way worse. Half step forward and three steps backc
  • panis_na_putopanis_na_puto Member PExer
    Ngayong sibak na ang Gilas, panahon na upang baguhin ang mga kalahok:

    1. Sibakin na ang import. Manalo man napakasagwang tingnan. Nanalo lang dahil sa import, walang kuwenta! Ang laki-laki ng bayad sa import dapat sa Pinoy ibigay ang pagkakataon!

    2. Sibakin na ang mga taga-PBA. Malalaki na ang mga ulo nito. Mas maganda kung sariwa galing amateur ang kunin. Matuturuan pa sila at may pag-asa pang umasenso!

    Magsimula man sa mababa, mabuti na rin. Mas masarap panoorin kung Pinoy lahat at walang mga buwaya't suwapang sa bola!

    [#]MVPisipKaPaMore[/#]
  • IronManofSteelIronManofSteel Manok ng Bayan Sexy Dancers ✭✭✭✭
    Ngayong sibak na ang Gilas, panahon na upang baguhin ang mga kalahok:

    1. Sibakin na ang import. Manalo man napakasagwang tingnan. Nanalo lang dahil sa import, walang kuwenta! Ang laki-laki ng bayad sa import dapat sa Pinoy ibigay ang pagkakataon!

    2. Sibakin na ang mga taga-PBA. Malalaki na ang mga ulo nito. Mas maganda kung sariwa galing amateur ang kunin. Matuturuan pa sila at may pag-asa pang umasenso!

    Magsimula man sa mababa, mabuti na rin. Mas masarap panoorin kung Pinoy lahat at walang mga buwaya't suwapang sa bola!

    [#]MVPisipKaPaMore[/#]

    Wag na sumali, maliliit ng Pinoy eh. Haha
  • gelodudegelodude Member ✭✭✭✭
    Ngayong sibak na ang Gilas, panahon na upang baguhin ang mga kalahok:

    1. Sibakin na ang import. Manalo man napakasagwang tingnan. Nanalo lang dahil sa import, walang kuwenta! Ang laki-laki ng bayad sa import dapat sa Pinoy ibigay ang pagkakataon!

    2. Sibakin na ang mga taga-PBA. Malalaki na ang mga ulo nito. Mas maganda kung sariwa galing amateur ang kunin. Matuturuan pa sila at may pag-asa pang umasenso!

    Magsimula man sa mababa, mabuti na rin. Mas masarap panoorin kung Pinoy lahat at walang mga buwaya't suwapang sa bola!

    [#]MVPisipKaPaMore[/#]

    kagagawa lang ng thread nagkalat kaagad. mag coach ka na lang sa barangay team niyo diyan.
  • panis_na_putopanis_na_puto Member PExer
    Wag na sumali, maliliit ng Pinoy eh. Haha

    Dapat sumali pa rin. Sapagka't ang palakasan ay upang ipunyagi ang samahan ng iba't-ibang bayan.

    Di bale magsimula sa mababa ang mahalaga may patutunguan ang programa. Kung mga malalaking ulong mga pro ang isasali, walang mangyayari.
  • panis_na_putopanis_na_puto Member PExer
    gelodude wrote: »
    kagagawa lang ng thread nagkalat kaagad. mag coach ka na lang sa barangay team niyo diyan.

    Nagkalat?

    Bakit, sa tingin mo may patutunguan ang kasalukuyang may import at galing sa pro ang kalahok? Mga ilang version ng Gilas ang kailangan upang makumbinsi kang hindi?
  • warpalakolwarpalakol Member ✭✭
    Dapat sumali pa rin. Sapagka't ang palakasan ay upang ipunyagi ang samahan ng iba't-ibang bayan.

    Di bale magsimula sa mababa ang mahalaga may patutunguan ang programa. Kung mga malalaking ulong mga pro ang isasali, walang mangyayari.

    Problema lang hindi sang ayon ang PBA sa ganitong pamamaraan dahil sa kanila parang inaaagawan daw sila ng Players. Naalala niyo yung proposal ni MVP na magkaroon ng Gilas Cadet, ano nangyari ang daming negative feedback sa mga PBA fans at sa mismong PBA. Mahirap din ang position ng sbp dito. Ginagawa naman nila lahat para maging competitive ang Pilipinas sa laragan ng basketball kaso minsan sila pa lumalabas na masama.
  • darknight10darknight10 Member ✭✭✭
    The timing to continue the Cadets program is perfect. 7 teams from Asia/Oceanic will go to Worlds. Shoo-in would be Aus, NZ, CN, Iran, and PH. Kung minalas, 2 more spots are open. I mean, you can't really lose this one unless you fully self destruct.

    Probably 2018 ang qualifiers. 2 years from now.

    During that time, 36 na sina RDO at Pingris (sila ang oldest from 4.0), 34 naman sina Reyes at Chan. Assume retire na sina RDO at Pingris, the rest are still capable of playing. (Tho age should never be an issue coz lolo asi and tito don)

    The crucial one here is the Gilas cadets. Will they be ready by that time? Kiefer will be 24, Ferrer and Belo will be 25. Paras will be 20, if you ask me, these guys should be ready by that time.

    The problem would still be our big men. If we can borrow (i hate that word, PH shouldn't be borrowing a Filipino) Junmar (and Aguilar/Slaughter) from SMC and Almazan from RoS, then we're already good.
  • Jay P. MercadoJay P. Mercado Moderator PEx Moderator
    The timing to continue the Cadets program is perfect. 7 teams from Asia/Oceanic will go to Worlds. Shoo-in would be Aus, NZ, CN, Iran, and PH. Kung minalas, 2 more spots are open. I mean, you can't really lose this one unless you fully self destruct.

    Probably 2018 ang qualifiers. 2 years from now.

    During that time, 36 na sina RDO at Pingris (sila ang oldest from 4.0), 34 naman sina Reyes at Chan. Assume retire na sina RDO at Pingris, the rest are still capable of playing. (Tho age should never be an issue coz lolo asi and tito don)

    The crucial one here is the Gilas cadets. Will they be ready by that time? Kiefer will be 24, Ferrer and Belo will be 25. Paras will be 20, if you ask me, these guys should be ready by that time.

    The problem would still be our big men. If we can borrow (i hate that word, PH shouldn't be borrowing a Filipino) Junmar (and Aguilar/Slaughter) from SMC and Almazan from RoS, then we're already good.

    Don't expect too much on RDO, Ping, Chan, Reyes and Tenorio. They're gone. Perhaps Castro and Norwood can still be convinced for another tour of duty but we're probably looking at 2018, so the timing of their retirement may actually be ideal.

    The key is our naturalized player. Will Blatche be retained? He'll be 31 in two years time, still ok, but we can't let him play extended minutes. This is where the development of Slaughter and JMF comes to fore.

    The next batch of Gilas will have as holdovers - Parks, Romeo, JMF, Abueva, Rosser and Lee. The additions will be Slaughter, Lassiter, Almazan, and the newbies - Ravena, Ferrer, Belo, Alolino, etc.
  • panis_na_putopanis_na_puto Member PExer
    warpalakol wrote: »
    Problema lang hindi sang ayon ang PBA sa ganitong pamamaraan dahil sa kanila parang inaaagawan daw sila ng Players. Naalala niyo yung proposal ni MVP na magkaroon ng Gilas Cadet, ano nangyari ang daming negative feedback sa mga PBA fans at sa mismong PBA. Mahirap din ang position ng sbp dito. Ginagawa naman nila lahat para maging competitive ang Pilipinas sa laragan ng basketball kaso minsan sila pa lumalabas na masama.

    Kaya mas mainam huwag umasa sa PBA para sa mga manlalaro. Balik sa grassroots. Kunin ang mga may ibubugang amateur at hasain para sa international.

    Hindi problema ang pera sa programa ng Gilas. Kung $1 million ang binayad kay Blatche sa World Cup ibig sabihin kayang magbayad nang mas malaki ang Gilas kaysa sa pasahod sa PBA!

    Mahalaga WALA NANG IMPORT. Walang nang HUWAD na Fil-Foreigner kuno! Katutubong manlalaro lahat!
  • CaptainCharismaCaptainCharisma Moderator PEx Moderator
    next year na start ng qualifiers di ba?

    cohesive play talaga ang kulang, iso ball won't cut it out for international games unless you're as talented as Team USA, sana Blatche can do full-time stretch 4 and learn to play with Junemar at the 5 and Slaughter as back-up with cohesive defense, panay kain lang sa loob France at NZ sa interior defense natin

    ang problema kung may mix ng PBA players, anong magiging role ng cadets? parang andami nating surplus sa scoring PGs (Castro, Romeo) tapos sa cadets (Ravena) but we lack specialist shooters (Lassiter isn't getting any younger too and hasn't played for Gilas in forever)

    Abueva should have a spot even just for the intangibles he brings, si Japeth wala na yata talaga pag-asa yan :lol:

    and maybe the retired Gilas can play tune-up games and practice with the new breed, of course easier said than done :lol:
  • Jay P. MercadoJay P. Mercado Moderator PEx Moderator
    next year na start ng qualifiers di ba?

    cohesive play talaga ang kulang, iso ball won't cut it out for international games unless you're as talented as Team USA, sana Blatche can do full-time stretch 4 and learn to play with Junemar at the 5 and Slaughter as back-up with cohesive defense, panay kain lang sa loob France at NZ sa interior defense natin

    ang problema kung may mix ng PBA players, anong magiging role ng cadets? parang andami nating surplus sa scoring PGs (Castro, Romeo) tapos sa cadets (Ravena) but we lack specialist shooters (Lassiter isn't getting any younger too and hasn't played for Gilas in forever)

    Abueva should have a spot even just for the intangibles he brings, si Japeth wala na yata talaga pag-asa yan :lol:

    and maybe the retired Gilas can play tune-up games and practice with the new breed, of course easier said than done :lol:

    Next year, yes, but these are the easy qualifiers. We'll be ranged against our SEA rivals so we don't have to put in our top pros there.

    However, come 2018, we should be going up against top-tiered Asian teams. By that time, we would need a complement of around 6 pros, plus a naturalized player to backstop the cadets. Come 2019, when the top 7 is close to being completed, the team's performance will be evaluated. This is to determine if more pros are needed to be added to the lineup.

    P.S. Forgot to add Troy Rosario in the list.
  • tsk_tsktsk_tsk Member ✭✭✭
    I am a Ros fan but i dont like jeff chan to be included in Gilas 5.0, why? because he is totally reliable in defense. He's threes are just occasional, it only worked when we are against inferior teams. Did you noticed last night he committed several defensive lapses against the websters. THere was a play na naiwan na sya tapos biglang bitaw ng 3 ng binabantayan nya, kita mo yung frustatration sa mukha nya, yung parang "hindi ko talaga kayang bumantay, tapos sabay pinalitan sya ni park ba yun? Kahit sa Ros hindi na kami bilib sa kanya.
  • cb36cb36 Member ✭✭✭
    Let us face it at magpakatotoo tayo.Hindi pwedeng walang naturalized player sa Gilas kundi saan tayo pupulutin nyan.Baka sa Asian level di na tayo umabot sa China,Iran at Korea.Having Andray Blatche gives Gilas a fighting chance to compete against the worlds best.
    Hindi nyo ba napanood ang laro natin sa FIBA World Cup noong 2014.Marami tayong ginulat noon.Muntik na tayong nanalo tapos sasabihin nyo di na kailangan ng naturalized player at PBA player.
    Doon sa gusto ng puro amatuer player at walang naturalized player,magtayo ka na lang ng sarili mong National team.Wag kang kukuha sa PBA ha tingnan natin kung saan ka aabot,ha ha haha ha.
    Doon sa mga nakakalimot sa karangalan at bangis na ipinakita ng Gilas Pilipinas noong FIBa World Cup 2014 eto mga results halos mga dikit ang laban at kung sinuwerte pa tayo sana umabot pa tayo sa semis.

    81-78 Croatia won over Gilas via Overtime
    82-70 Greece over Gilas
    85-81 Argentina survive Gilas
    77-73 Puerto Rico excape Gilas
    at ang isang matindi nating panalo
    81-79 GILAS WON OVER SENEGAL

    Pansinin nyo mga laro natin dyan pwede tayong mag 4-1 at pumasok sa semis ng World Cup kung sinuwerte lang sana tayo ng konti pa.
    Yan pagmasdan mo yan at sasabihin mo sibakin ang import at PBA players,ha ha haha .Nagpapatawa ka.
    By the way coach Chot Reyes is the head coach by then and Baldwin is only a consultant.
  • tambayan101tambayan101 Member ✭✭✭✭
    tsk_tsk wrote: »
    I am a Ros fan but i dont like jeff chan to be included in Gilas 5.0, why? because he is totally reliable in defense. He's threes are just occasional, it only worked when we are against inferior teams. Did you noticed last night he committed several defensive lapses against the websters. THere was a play na naiwan na sya tapos biglang bitaw ng 3 ng binabantayan nya, kita mo yung frustatration sa mukha nya, yung parang "hindi ko talaga kayang bumantay, tapos sabay pinalitan sya ni park ba yun? Kahit sa Ros hindi na kami bilib sa kanya.
    Hahaha, obvious na obvious ka na. Ayaw na ayaw mo talaga kay Jeff Chan. Nandamay ka pa ng mga taga RoS. Eh bilib kaya kami sa kanya. :lol:
  • tsk_tsktsk_tsk Member ✭✭✭
    Hahaha, obvious na obvious ka na. Ayaw na ayaw mo talaga kay Jeff Chan. Nandamay ka pa ng mga taga RoS. Eh bilib kaya kami sa kanya. :lol:


    weeeeeeehhhh, ganyan ba ang feeling ng laging nababara? nagpapanggap nalang na ros fan para lang makaganti?

    ikaw ang masyadong obvious, inaabangan mo talaga ang post ko para lang makaganti ka. keylan mo ba tatanggapin na hindi pa pwede sa international level ang idol mong si abueva? ngayun ginagamit mo si chan para makaganti ka. ang kaibahan naming mga totoong ros fans, hindi kami fantard katulad mo. hindi lang napili ang peyboret mong player nagdadabog kna.

    move on kana boy, malapit na ang governors cup, saka na tayo mag asaran pag nagharap na ang mga teams natin. kaso bigla ka palang nagiging bandwagon pag nagiging kulelat ang team mo :lol:
  • CaptainCharismaCaptainCharisma Moderator PEx Moderator
    William just announced his retirement from Gilas, I still believe he'll be back :glee:

    so basically the Cadets will do the dirty work in SEA then when Asian level na re-inforce na ng PBA, if only all sides could get it all together, maybe its time na mag-step aside na si MVP at maging independent na ang "main benefactor" para maiwasan na yung conflict of interests
  • tsk_tsktsk_tsk Member ✭✭✭
    William just announced his retirement from Gilas, I still believe he'll be back :glee:

    so basically the Cadets will do the dirty work in SEA then when Asian level na re-inforce na ng PBA, if only all sides could get it all together, maybe its time na mag-step aside na si MVP at maging independent na ang "main benefactor" para maiwasan na yung conflict of interests

    kung independent teams ang magbabacked up ng gilas sigurado hindi kakayanin ng ros at alaska to :lol:


    sana si Henry Sy naman ang magpakitangGILAS tapos non-smc/mvp coach ang kukunin para wala nang issue. pwede ring erehire si coach tab kaso nakadikit na ang pangalan ni MVP sa kanya. sino kaya sa mga international coach ang pwedeng maging gilas coach? si coach alex compton at coach yeng nalang kasi ang mga independent coach sa pilipinas.
  • Jay P. MercadoJay P. Mercado Moderator PEx Moderator
    William just announced his retirement from Gilas, I still believe he'll be back :glee:

    so basically the Cadets will do the dirty work in SEA then when Asian level na re-inforce na ng PBA, if only all sides could get it all together, maybe its time na mag-step aside na si MVP at maging independent na ang "main benefactor" para maiwasan na yung conflict of interests

    The likely successor to MVP is Al Panlilio, an SVP at Meralco. For MVP to give way, that would mean someone else has to take the cudgels financially. Who'll do it, realistically? RSA? No one in the SMC Group knows anything about FIBA basketball. Hans Sy? Ideal choice but it won't happen, at least, not yet.

    MVP remains to be the best option. He's the one willing to put his pocket to what his mouth is saying. And I don't care if it'll be an underling like Panlilio running the show. So long as the SBP continues with what its doing (from the high 70's in 2006 to #28 today), they can run the show.
  • IronManofSteelIronManofSteel Manok ng Bayan Sexy Dancers ✭✭✭✭
    Ito dapat ang mga mag retired at hindi na makasama sa Gilas 5.0

    RDO - check
    Castro - check
    Tenorio -
    Chan -
    Pingris -
    Norwood -
    Aguilar -
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