Duterte: "We've lost Scarborough Shoal"

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Trillanes responds: Duterte's statement that we've lost Scarborough Shoal is like giving China the license to occupy the area

https://mobile.twitter.com/gmanewsbreaking/status/732050061362782209?p=v
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  • booksalebooksale Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    DZRH News

    Trillanes: Dangerous yung sinasabi nya we have lost Scarborough Shoal. It will weaken our claim | RH12 @milkyrigonan

    https://mobile.twitter.com/dzrhnews/status/732049132957769732?p=v
  • FakeTaxiFakeTaxi Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    hahahaha talagang nakatutok si trollanes bawat kilos at buka ng bibig ni duterte inaabangan baka sakali ma impeach
  • ImpenneteriImpenneteri  PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    They have occupied 8 reefs and turned it into man made islands plus they've made it into military bases. This was all during PNoy's time. I wonder what Trillanes did in all that 16 meetings that the Aquino government had blessing. Ito ang gustong paimbestigahan ni Digong.

    We have no army and kahit sino pang pinakamagaling na General sa mundo ilagay mo dyan they will push us back and they will still build a base there. Nobody from the rich nations is putting China in check kasi lahat sila nakikinabang sa bansang yan. Kaya all we can do is watch. Sad but true. We are in the middle of an escalating tension. Kawawa tayo.

    Duterte is even wiser in saying he will have direct talks with China. You have to be closer with your enemies especially when they are more powerful. Gamitin mo sila, gain their favor maybe one day we will be at an advantage and we have the resources to fight back.

    The arbitration case even if pabor sa atin yan, wala rin yang magagawa. Not unless UN will do something about it which I doubt kung may gagawin sila.
  • booksalebooksale Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    They have occupied 8 reefs and turned it into man made islands plus they've made it into military bases. This was all during PNoy's time.

    i kinda blame obama for that. pnoy wanted to contest china's claims by sending ships over to stop them, but US tells aquino admin to STAND DOWN, else our foreign aid will be cut off.

    http://politicaljunkie.blogspot.com/2013/11/why-china-thinks-what-it-thinks-about.html?m=1

    remember pinagalitan pa si ab-nhoy ng mga amerikano for comparing china to nazi germany and their actions in the south china sea to Sudetenland

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/jplehmann/2015/06/07/president-aquino-should-shut-up-on-south-china-sea-china-is-not-nazi-germany-the-philippines-has-other-priorities/
  • Kent_210Kent_210 Member PEx Guru ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
    Lol, worst pala si PNoy, binenta ang scarborough shoal for US aid? :glee:

    Atleast si Duterte big ticket infrastructures ang hinihingi :glee:
  • booksalebooksale Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Kent_210 wrote: »
    Lol, worst pala si PNoy, binenta ang scarborough shoal for US aid? :glee:

    Atleast si Duterte big ticket infrastructures ang hinihingi :glee:

    no. basically what the obama admin's state dept told ahbnhoy was that they will not support us militarily if we contest china's claims of scarboroagh and spratlys and USA will cut off foreign aid to boot. eh anong magagawa ni aquino if the USA will not go to war to defend the PHL from china's intrusions in the spratlys and scarborough?
  • 4mer-whimpy4mer-whimpy Member PExer
    booksale wrote: »
    GMA Breaking News

    Trillanes responds: Duterte's statement that we've lost Scarborough Shoal is like giving China the license to occupy the area

    https://mobile.twitter.com/gmanewsbreaking/status/732050061362782209?p=v
    It's true we did not lost the Scarborough Shoal. The right term should be Pnoy and Trillanes SELL it not lose it. Ano kayang milagrong ginawa ng dalawang ito at biglang naging aggressive sa pagtatayo ng mga man-made islands ang China sa Spratly pagkatapos ng mga backchanneling kuno pinaggagawa ni Trillanes sa utos ni Pnoy? Digong needs to get the classified documents na sinasabi ni Trillanes, since siya na ang President, I hope he can hold on those classified documents.
  • booksalebooksale Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    under duterte regime, we are now under china's sphere of influence, and moving away from USA.

    siguro yan rin ang gusto na end result ni duterte at joma sison.
  • booksalebooksale Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    It's true we did not lost the Scarborough Shoal. The right term should be Pnoy and Trillanes SELL it not lose it. Ano kayang milagrong ginawa ng dalawang ito at biglang naging aggressive sa pagtatayo ng mga man-made islands ang China sa Spratly pagkatapos ng mga backchanneling kuno pinaggagawa ni Trillanes sa utos ni Pnoy.

    maybe you should ask gloria arroyo and wikileaks?

    http://news.abs-cbn.com/-depth/04/17/12/wikileaks-cables-arroyo-scandals-affected-spratlys

    "This and other recent scandals involving the Chinese led to charges in Congress and media circles that the Arroyo administration had likewise assented to the Spratlys joint seismic exploration deal in exchange for bribe-tainted loans, and that the government's attempts to get Congress to back off on inclusion of the Spratlys in Philippine baselines was similarly motivated by illicit Chinese influence," said the memo addressed to the US Secretary of State.

    The memo was referring to the 2005 Joint Marine Seismic Undertaking (JMSU) agreement between China, Vietnam, and the Philippines that coordinated "pre-exploration" of possible hydrocarbon reserves in the Spratlys.

    http://globalbalita.com/2011/09/15/gma-corruption-weakened-rp-spratlys-policy-wikileaks/

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  • FakeTaxiFakeTaxi Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    booksale wrote: »
    under duterte regime, we are now under china's sphere of influence, and moving away from USA.

    siguro yan rin ang gusto na end result ni duterte at joma sison.

    naku huwag naman sana, mas maigi pa ibenta na lang tayo sa kano maging 51st state na tayo ayaw ko mag aral ng chinese!
  • ImpenneteriImpenneteri  PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    booksale wrote: »
    i kinda blame obama for that. pnoy wanted to contest china's claims by sending ships over to stop them, but US tells aquino admin to STAND DOWN, else our foreign aid will be cut off.

    http://politicaljunkie.blogspot.com/2013/11/why-china-thinks-what-it-thinks-about.html?m=1

    remember pinagalitan pa si ***** ng mga amerikano for comparing china to nazi germany and their actions in the south china sea to Sudetenland

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/jplehmann/2015/06/07/president-aquino-should-shut-up-on-south-china-sea-china-is-not-nazi-germany-the-philippines-has-other-priorities/

    Well calling them Nazi further worsen the problem. Now Duterte carries the burden.

    China will never back down because they need it.

    i think what happened with the meetings was that lumabas na naman yung bravado, misplaced patriotism like sabi nga ni Duterte he seems to think he has the monopoly of love of country. It made it even worse kasi he had the blessing of the Aquino administration.

    He probably argued with Chinese delegates that led to threatening of raising it into international court UNCLOS. Of course China retaliated by building islands out of reefs to strengthen its claim.

    If the Aquino administration had been more diplomatic and cooperative, they (China) probably have not made those islands. Baka pinayagan pa tayo on joint exploration. Masyado kasing combative ang Aquino administration dealing with this issue kaya nga hindi pinipigilan ang DFA sec. to speak about the issue kasi Aquino had their blessing. Combative pero wala namang armas pang laban. Kaya yan ang nangyari.

    Itong problem na ito matagal na since early 2000 pa or much much earlier than that. But China made all these drastic moves only during the Aquino admin which strengthens my theory above.
  • 4mer-whimpy4mer-whimpy Member PExer
    booksale wrote: »
    maybe you should ask gloria arroyo and wikileaks?

    http://news.abs-cbn.com/-depth/04/17/12/wikileaks-cables-arroyo-scandals-affected-spratlys

    "This and other recent scandals involving the Chinese led to charges in Congress and media circles that the Arroyo administration had likewise assented to the Spratlys joint seismic exploration deal in exchange for bribe-tainted loans, and that the government's attempts to get Congress to back off on inclusion of the Spratlys in Philippine baselines was similarly motivated by illicit Chinese influence," said the memo addressed to the US Secretary of State.

    The memo was referring to the 2005 Joint Marine Seismic Undertaking (JMSU) agreement between China, Vietnam, and the Philippines that coordinated "pre-exploration" of possible hydrocarbon reserves in the Spratlys.

    http://globalbalita.com/2011/09/15/gma-corruption-weakened-rp-spratlys-policy-wikileaks/

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=Gd8MEsT5zfE
    Is there something wrong with Joint Exploration? Hindi naman natuloy na nag-back off tayo sa claim sa spratly di ba. Kung natuloy yan eh di kinasuhan na ni PNOY si PGMA ng treason. It means, there's nothing wrong since Pnoy did not lift a finger about the issue of Joint Exploration of 2005.
  • booksalebooksale Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    if duterte is determined to sell us out on spratlys and scarborough, impeach the traitor.

    kung natalo tayo sa arbitration case vs china because of duterte, impeach the *******.
  • deathzero23deathzero23 Member PExer
    Combative? Typical Aquino....
    Lolo ni Ninoy, nakisama kay Aguinaldo pabor sa USA
    Tatay ni Ninoy, naki-collaborate sa mga Hapon
    Si Ninoy daw eh ka-tropa ang CPP, NPA at NDF
    Si Noynoy at Trillanes nakipagmeeting sa China 16 times.
    Binulyawan pa ni Trillanes si Del Rosario

    Si PNoy daw ang sinisisi kung bakit bigla naging aggressive ang China sa pagtatayo ng mga structures sa isla.
  • EnkiduduEnkidudu Member PExer
    They have occupied 8 reefs and turned it into man made islands plus they've made it into military bases. This was all during PNoy's time. I wonder what Trillanes did in all that 16 meetings that the Aquino government had blessing. Ito ang gustong paimbestigahan ni Digong.

    We have no army and kahit sino pang pinakamagaling na General sa mundo ilagay mo dyan they will push us back and they will still build a base there. Nobody from the rich nations is putting China in check kasi lahat sila nakikinabang sa bansang yan. Kaya all we can do is watch. Sad but true. We are in the middle of an escalating tension. Kawawa tayo.

    Duterte is even wiser in saying he will have direct talks with China. You have to be closer with your enemies especially when they are more powerful. Gamitin mo sila, gain their favor maybe one day we will be at an advantage and we have the resources to fight back.

    The arbitration case even if pabor sa atin yan, wala rin yang magagawa. Not unless UN will do something about it which I doubt kung may gagawin sila.

    yung palaging nagsasabi na awayin ang China ay yun yung mga hindi apektado.

    walang gusto ng giyera, i don't think that US will go to war with China for us. at saka nakakatakot ang giyera between two countries with nuclear capabilities.

    anyway hindi lang sa giyera yang problema sa China, my previous employer are exporter of fruits. so i am aware kung ganu kalaki ang damage nung biglang ayaw tanggapin ng China yung mga exports galing Pinas dahil sa hidwaan na to. Billions have been lost, and many people affected, at etong mga warfreak nag tatawag pa ng giyera.
  • booksalebooksale Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    ah... so all china has to do is occupy a philippine territory, and duterte will just say "we lost... we cant do anything about it, na."
  • mimigsmimigs Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    Marcos Era pa may balak na talaga yung China kunin yung Spratly, diba nga isang reason ni imelda yun bakit siya tumakbo nung 1998


    eto yung video

    https://www.facebook.com/Ferdinandmarcosthegreat/videos/753909981421553/

    "She began her speech, by declaring that she was running for the Presidency because the Philippine sovereignty is endangered. She continued that the Cory Constitution surreptitiously deleted the historical and legal rights to our territories. Hence, endangering the sovereignty of our country. "

    "The audience looked bored and seemed oblivious of Imelda Marcos warning. Fast forward today, Imelda Marcos must have felt vindicated that what she was telling them several years ago were all right on target. At the same time, it must have been frustrating that what she fought for all those years fell on deaf ears. "
  • deathzero23deathzero23 Member PExer
    ^If that's true re:Imelda, then how ironic it is...

    So what is the part of the old constitution that Cory deleted that strengthen our claims?
  • BeerhandBopBeerhandBop I Am WHIP PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Are you going to scarborough shoal!!!
    parsley sage rosemary and thyme!!!

    Remember me to one who lives there.
    She once was a true love of mine.

    On the side of a hill in the deep forest green.
    Tracing of sparrow on snow-crested brown.
    Blankets and bedclothes the child of the mountain
    Sleeps unaware of the clarion call.
  • sasumansasuman 猛烈な獣 PEx Legend ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
    Epal na naman si Trollanes sa isyung eto..😄

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