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Manila to be uninhabitable in 4 years if traffic chaos not resolved

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The city of Manila may become uninhabitable within four years if the current traffic chaos is not resolved, John Forbes, a senior advisor at the American Chamber of Commerce at the Philippines said. He warned that if the roads and other infrastructure are not upgraded immediately, the traffic mess in the metropolis would likely worsen.

"Metro Manila is at risk of becoming uninhabitable as annual new car growth increases to 500,000 by 2020," Forbes said. "While roads are being improved throughout the country, the National Capital Region urgently needs more limited access roads, especially skyways, and rail."

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/philippines-manila-be-uninhabitable-4-years-if-traffic-chaos-not-resolved-1538075
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  • Plantation BoyPlantation Boy PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Uninhabitable? That's the most ridiculous exagerration, if I heard one. Car growth had nothing to do with Manila's traffic! It's the jeepneys and the buses that's creating the chaotic situation! Once a car owner is at his destination, the car id off the road meanwhile , buses and jeepneys are still out there polluting the environment!
  • kel1guykel1guy PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Unacceptable maybe.... Uninhabitable.... I doubt it. Just very long commutes over short distances. During morning traffic it can already take 2 hours to get from NAIA T3 to the 1500 block of Pasay on Roxas. It used to be a 45 minute commute!

    As long as busses and jeeps are blocking on and off exits... traffic slows. Why can't we have city busses running on LPG, NO JEEPS and NO PRIVATE OWNED BUSSES except for touring / charter busses?

    The answer is pretty simple... there are over 60 politicians that own bus companies in the NCR!!!!!! When we go to a bonafide mass transit system with PUBLIC City Owned busses with SCHEDULED stops at DESIGNATED BUS STOPS under MTCRB while ridding ourselves of the Private busses and Jeeps the traffic flow will be much improved.
  • Car growth had nothing to do with Manila's traffic! It's the jeepneys and the buses that's creating the chaotic situation! Once a car owner is at his destination, the car id off the road meanwhile , buses and jeepneys are still out there polluting the environment!

    MALI:
    Public Transportation vs. Private Cars - Best practice from Manila

    2016-01-21

    The traffic demand in Metro Manila is at 12.8 million trips. 69% of these total trips are done using public transport yet only 22% of the road space is occupied by public vehicles. The other 78% of road space is taken by private vehicles.

    [#]IsipIsipPaMore[/#]
  • kel1guy wrote: »
    Unacceptable maybe.... Uninhabitable.... I doubt it. Just very long commutes over short distances. During morning traffic it can already take 2 hours to get from NAIA T3 to the 1500 block of Pasay on Roxas. It used to be a 45 minute commute!

    As long as busses and jeeps are blocking on and off exits... traffic slows. Why can't we have city busses running on LPG, NO JEEPS and NO PRIVATE OWNED BUSSES except for touring / charter busses?

    The answer is pretty simple... there are over 60 politicians that own bus companies in the NCR!!!!!! When we go to a bonafide mass transit system with PUBLIC City Owned busses with SCHEDULED stops at DESIGNATED BUS STOPS under MTCRB while ridding ourselves of the Private busses and Jeeps the traffic flow will be much improved.

    Iyong bus kaagaw din ng mga sasakyang pribado sa kalsada. Ang tunay na lunas sa traffic congestion: RAIL.

    Problema sa Pinas singdami ng Tokyo ang population pero Dubai lang ang Rail infrastructure: kulang na kulang.

    Tapos iyong mga BOBONG politiko ang pinagkakagastusan ay TOLLED ROADS. Sino ba ang may sasakyan, di ba iyong may kaya? Ang masa wala namang sasakyan kaya di makikinabang sa TOLLED ROADS na iyan!

    [#]IsipIsipPagMayTime[/#]
  • kel1guykel1guy PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    MALI:
    Public Transportation vs. Private Cars - Best practice from Manila

    2016-01-21

    The traffic demand in Metro Manila is at 12.8 million trips. 69% of these total trips are done using public transport yet only 22% of the road space is occupied by public vehicles. The other 78% of road space is taken by private vehicles.

    [#]IsipIsipPaMore[/#]

    If you take 22 percent of the space moving at an average speed of 15 km per hour slowing down 78 percent of the traffic.... then YES Buses and Jeeps are still a problem. Once a back up in traffic begins it has an accordion effect from where the initial stoppage was several kilometers down the road. That accordion effect can last from 7 am until 11 am and then start again at 2 pm until 7 pm or after all because of busses and jeeps stopping normal traffic flow not only on major thoroughfares but also jeeps on surface streets. With ONLY City busses operating on schedule at designated stops all of that goes away. Additionally if we had a well maintained train / trolley system that was reliable and capable of handling the necessary capacity going to the Metro Bus Station Transfer points.. again we would not have this problem.


    Traffic in the capital and its surroundings is already costing the country about three billion pesos ($64 million) a day, or about 0.8 percent of gross domestic product, according to government figures.

    Compounding the problem, decades of infrastructure neglect has left Manila with a just a few major roads across the city and their gridlock “peak hours” often last for three or four hours.

    A chaotic private bus and mini-bus network with drivers who regularly flout traffic laws by, for instance, stopping in the middle of roads to pick up passengers, is widely perceived as adding to the problem.

    many experts believe there is little chance of many projects going ahead.

    They point to the nation’s chaotic and corrupt democratic system, as well as a strangling bureaucracy, which prevent infrastructure development.

    A glaring example is the construction of a 19-kilometer light rail line on the outskirts of the capital that was meant to have been finished by the end of last year — but it has not even been started.

    Touting the project in 2013, Aquino joked he was ready to be run over a train if it was not completed by the end of 2015. But his government has not even finalized the tender process.

    Gilbert Llano, president of the Philippine Institute for Development Studies, a government think-tank, echoed the ironic tones of many experts when talking about the government’s infrastructure plan.

    “It’s called a dream plan (because) it will stay in the realm of dreams,” said Llanto.

    Read more: http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/758260/big-dreams-but-little-action-for-manilas-traffic-nightmare#ixzz3y9Z2s8HU
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  • kel1guy wrote: »
    If you take 22 percent of the space moving at an average speed of 15 km per hour slowing down 78 percent of the traffic.... then YES Buses and Jeeps are still a problem. Once a back up in traffic begins it has an accordion effect from where the initial stoppage was several kilometers down the road. That accordion effect can last from 7 am until 11 am and then start again at 2 pm until 7 pm or after all because of busses and jeeps stopping normal traffic flow not only on major thoroughfares but also jeeps on surface streets. With ONLY City busses operating on schedule at designated stops all of that goes away. Additionally if we had a well maintained train / trolley system that was reliable and capable of handling the necessary capacity going to the Metro Bus Station Transfer points.. again we would not have this problem.


    Traffic in the capital and its surroundings is already costing the country about three billion pesos ($64 million) a day, or about 0.8 percent of gross domestic product, according to government figures.

    Compounding the problem, decades of infrastructure neglect has left Manila with a just a few major roads across the city and their gridlock “peak hours” often last for three or four hours.

    A chaotic private bus and mini-bus network with drivers who regularly flout traffic laws by, for instance, stopping in the middle of roads to pick up passengers, is widely perceived as adding to the problem.

    many experts believe there is little chance of many projects going ahead.

    They point to the nation’s chaotic and corrupt democratic system, as well as a strangling bureaucracy, which prevent infrastructure development.

    A glaring example is the construction of a 19-kilometer light rail line on the outskirts of the capital that was meant to have been finished by the end of last year — but it has not even been started.

    Touting the project in 2013, Aquino joked he was ready to be run over a train if it was not completed by the end of 2015. But his government has not even finalized the tender process.

    Gilbert Llano, president of the Philippine Institute for Development Studies, a government think-tank, echoed the ironic tones of many experts when talking about the government’s infrastructure plan.

    “It’s called a dream plan (because) it will stay in the realm of dreams,” said Llanto.

    Read more: http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/758260/big-dreams-but-little-action-for-manilas-traffic-nightmare#ixzz3y9Z2s8HU
    Follow us: @inquirerdotnet on Twitter | inquirerdotnet on Facebook

    Hangga't walang sapat na RAIL INFRASTRUCTURE ang Maynila, magiging palala nang palala ang traffic congestion.

    [#]HuwagNaMagdagdagNgKalsada[/#]
  • JasperbadJasperbad PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    i think someone posted a relevant thread about this somewhere.
  • JasperbadJasperbad PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    here it is:
    Zoho wrote: »
    THE REAL way out of the horrendous traffic mess in Metro Manila, and increasingly in other major cities of the country as well, is to have fewer cars on the city’s roads.


    Allow only

    1. Authorized Electric vehicles and Rail transport in the metro and

    2. Build a “greenway” exclusively for bicyclists and pedestrians.


    Tingnan natin kung mag kaka carmageddon pa. :naughty:


    http://opinion.inquirer.net/90189/its-the-cars-stupid#ixzz3r39s3EOZ
  • BeerhandBopBeerhandBop PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    "The traffic demand in Metro Manila is at 12.8 million trips. 69% of these total trips are done using public transport yet only 22% of the road space is occupied by public vehicles. The other 78% of road space is taken by private vehicles."

    exactly.

    the remaining 22% of the road space is blocked by pujs and buses where they stop in the middle of the [#]ucking[/#] Road.

    tatang tatang..

    la nanamang alam.
  • "The traffic demand in Metro Manila is at 12.8 million trips. 69% of these total trips are done using public transport yet only 22% of the road space is occupied by public vehicles. The other 78% of road space is taken by private vehicles."

    exactly.

    the remaining 22% of the road space is blocked by pujs and buses where they stop in the middle of the [#]ucking[/#] Road.

    tatang tatang..

    la nanamang alam.

    69% ng viaje ay 22% lang ang ginagamit na kalsada. 31% ginagamit ang 78% - mga pribadong sasakyan.

    ***** ka lang talaga kung di ka nababahala na 31% kumakain ng 78% na pribadong sasakyan.

    BULOK kasi ang mass transport system sa Pinas kaya maraming gumagamit ng sasakyan. Magpunta ka sa New York, London o Tokyo - makaiikit ka roon nang walang sasakyan.

    [#]KauntingIsipPagMayTime[/#]
  • BeerhandBopBeerhandBop PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    eh.. NO.

    if you think of a road as a rectangle with the Length being the longer part.

    the buses and PUjs occupy their 22% vertically.

    that means cars won't be able to pass thru. it's the simple tatang.
  • eh.. NO.

    if you think of a road as a rectangle with the Length being the longer part.

    the buses and PUjs occupy their 22% vertically.

    that means cars won't be able to pass thru. it's the simple tatang.

    Ilan ang pasahero ng bus? Ilagay mo na sa 50. Ilan ang laman ng pribadong sasakyan - suerte ka na kung puno sa lima. Kadalasan paisa-isa lang ang laman ng pribadong sasakyan.

    Kaunting gamit ng sentido kumon, pag may time.

    [#]HuwagSambahinAngPribadongSasakyan[/#]
  • PorferioKabisigPorferioKabisig PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Hangga't walang sapat na RAIL INFRASTRUCTURE ang Maynila, magiging palala nang palala ang traffic congestion.

    [#]HuwagNaMagdagdagNgKalsada[/#]

    Agree ako kay Panis dito. Tren ang kailangan para sa ikauunlad ng bayan. Mas convenient la. Huwag na mag over analyse... rail ang sagot.
  • BeerhandBopBeerhandBop PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    old-manila-main26.jpg

    things never change... don't it?
  • alchemistofophiralchemistofophir PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    imbes sisihin ang gobyerno, isumpa natin ang pontio pilatong nagimbento ng kotse.
  • BeerhandBopBeerhandBop PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    oh [email protected] him for helping to develop economics and commerce!
  • alchemistofophiralchemistofophir PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    oh [email protected] him for helping to develop economics and commerce!

    dapat choppers, trains, airplanes, boats lang ang meron. pwedeng maglakad o magbisikleta.

    [email protected] CARS
  • joerizjoeriz PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    No matter there are less public utility vehicles, but they are the ones constricting the floe of traffic! Take them all out and there'll be nothing but smooth flow for the large numbers of private vehicles.
    But remove, all the private cars and there'll still be traffic created by public utility vehicles and their drivers, changing lanes, stopping in the middle of the street to pick up fares.
  • alchemistofophiralchemistofophir PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    private cars. mostly 1 person occupying a car. if the car is big, then there are a lot of spaces not occupied by a person.

    puv on the other hand, are more space efficient. more than 1 person can occupy a puv.

    But trains trump puv and cars. they stop at set locations, thus avoiding the problem of "stopping at the middle of street". and many can occupy a [email protected] train.

    So [email protected] cars and its any form. cars (and its various forms like trucks, buses, jeepneys) should be bombed like ISIS.

    if time travelling is possible, i would kill the person who invented the first automobile.
  • joeriz wrote: »
    No matter there are less public utility vehicles, but they are the ones constricting the floe of traffic! Take them all out and there'll be nothing but smooth flow for the large numbers of private vehicles.
    But remove, all the private cars and there'll still be traffic created by public utility vehicles and their drivers, changing lanes, stopping in the middle of the street to pick up fares.

    At sino ang may-ari ng mga sasakyang pribado? Di ba mga nakaka-mariwasang ILUSTRADO? Kung tanggalin mo ang PUV e di walang sasakyan ang mga MASA?

    [#]ElitistaPaMore[/#]

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