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Anu-ano ang mga dahilan kung bakit bumaba ang kalidad ng mga pelikula sa MMFF?

Adore_Deli_GinAdore_Deli_Gin PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
The discussion started in this thread, pero off-topic na, so I created a separate thread.
Jameaux wrote: »
Walang problema sa light type of movies kahit anong genre pa yan comedy, romance, drama etc.

Ang problema sa mga pelikula ni Wenn Deramas, basura. Hindi dahil maganda ang pelikula at marami nanunuod kungdi andun si Vice Ganda at pilit na ginamit ang Jadine para maraming manuod.

Pinapanuod ko isa't isa ang movies ngayon para tignan kung anong level ba ang inangat kumpara a decade ago. May maganda at meron talagang sobrang basura na kumikita. Panuorin mo ang Beauty and Bestie at baka masuka ka sa kakornihan.

Sabi nga ni Direk Matti, mas malalim pa ang problema sa loob ng industriya. Yung ibang pelikula tig-isang araw lang ipalabas tas pinu-pull out agad. Malamang may kalokohan sa loob. Ayaw ba nilang malamangan sa kita? Tangena nila.

Read: http://www.rappler.com/entertainment/news/117204-mmff-2015-nilalang-honor-thy-father-pulled-out-cinemas

At oo, masakit isipin pero uto-uto talaga ang karamihan sa mga Pinoy dahil sa pagtangkilik sa mga basurang pelikula.


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In my opinion, the quality of MMFF films 10-15 years ago, on average, were higher than they are today. I noticed that around 10 years ago, the films started their dramatic drop in quality, and that it coincided with the movie franchises of Vic Sotto and Bong Revilla.

Star Cinema and GMA Films reversed their strategy and started to bankroll films starring the likes of Kris Aquino and Vice Ganda with very light plots. However, heavy promotions in their respective TV channels have turned these films into box office hits.

I don't know if it has always been the case that foreign films are banned for one to two weeks during the Christmas season. On the surface, this protectionist measure is beneficial to the local film studios, since they'll surely be assured of high ticket sales with foreign competition gone from the theatres.

My theory is that this strict 'foreign movie ban' during the two-week MMFF is the primary cause of the deterioration in the quality of our local MMFF films. Gone are the incentives of producing the likes of Muro Ami to compete with Hollywood box-office hits. Gone are the incentives of producing the thought-provoking and imaginative dramas that target movie-goers who had just watched the Hollywood box-office hit. The most rationale move for a film studio such as Star Cinema is to produce a sure-hit movie featuring Vice Ganda with a light script and tiring comedy, and promote it intensively on TV. And since these Vice Ganda movies turn into top grossers year-on-year, it's no wonder that we'll see another Vice Ganda comedy come Christmas time a year from today.

Do you think that we should keep the 'foreign movie ban' this time of the year? Do you agree/disagree that the absence of foreign competition is the main cause of our local films' deterioration come MMFF season?

Or are you of the opinion that there is no deterioration in the quality of our MMFF films for the past 10-15 years?

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  • gotta lick itgotta lick it PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    one word, "....... aldub."
  • topnotch97topnotch97 PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    nanduduon pa rin ang GMA vs ABS-CBN or network war.

    :glee:
  • NilsNils PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Tama yung nabasa kong comment about most MMFF films, imbes na gumawa ng maganda at makabuluhang pelikula, idinadaan na lang sa kabaklaan para kumita ng pera. Patawang bakla ang bumebenta sa mga gustong tumawa, yun ang magpapasaya sa masa.

    And yes, dapat alisin yang ban sa foreign movies. Sa miski anong bagay, hindi ka gagaling, hindi ka matututo kung ang kalaban mo ay pulpol. Maglelevel up ka lang kapag magagaling sa iyo ang kakalabanin mo. Oo, palagi kang matatalo, pero marami kang matututunan at yun ang magpapagaling sa iyo.
  • Darkprince19Darkprince19 PEx Rookie ⭐
    Majority of the Pinoy population is mainly composed of those in the lower class.. And believe it or not these people are actually the ones who make these cheap movies rich.
    "Bakit pa ako gagawa ng quality movie kung mas kikita naman ako ng limpak limpak sa paggawa ng puchu puchu movie?" - that's the mindset of the producers, directors. Bakit nga naman nila gagawing target market ang mga nasa upper class kung mas susuportahan sila ng mga nasa lower.

    "Eh bakit ang Heneral Luna, A second chance mga quality films pero pumalo pa din sa takilya?" - my theory is they don't have rivals that time. Pero if both would have been an entry to MMFF I don't think they wouldn't have grossed the way they used to.

    At the end of the day movie-making is still a money-making. That's the bitter truth.
  • NilsNils PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Majority of the Pinoy population is mainly composed of those in the lower class.. And believe it or not these people are actually the ones who make these cheap movies rich.
    "Bakit pa ako gagawa ng quality movie kung mas kikita naman ako ng limpak limpak sa paggawa ng puchu puchu movie?" - that's the mindset of the producers, directors. Bakit nga naman nila gagawing target market ang mga nasa upper class kung mas susuportahan sila ng mga nasa lower.

    "Eh bakit ang Heneral Luna, A second chance mga quality films pero pumalo pa din sa takilya?" - my theory is they don't have rivals that time. Pero if both would have been an entry to MMFF I don't think they wouldn't have grossed the way they used to.

    At the end of the day movie-making is still a money-making. That's the bitter truth.

    Then remove the MMFF. The stated goal of that idiotic OPM only movies period is for the advancement and improvement of the Philippine movie industry. Kung puro walang kwentang movies ang ipapalabas sa panahon na yan, hindi sinusunod ang goal ng event. Let these cheap movies battle it out with good foreign films.
  • chevy_camaro23chevy_camaro23 PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Ahh dito pala dapat yung pinost ko dun sa kabila. :glee:
  • QubethaQubetha PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    easy word, sino ang target market nila edi ang masa, so sino ang pupuntahan ng mga masang Pilipino edi ang mga pelikula ni Vic Sotto, Vice Ganda, Vhong Navarro yung madaling unawain at sundin yung tipong lahat ng paborito nilang artista nandoon tulad nina Vic Ganda, Coco Martin, Aldub at iba, idinadaan na lang nila sa mga favorite at sikat na love teams at mababang tema ng istorya ok na yun, bakit pa sila gagawa ng pelikula na ma-ala Inception, Dark Knight, The Hobbit kung hindi naman ito dudumugin ng Masang Pilipino di ba!
  • Alpha_GreenAlpha_Green PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Wag niyo na pahirapan sarili niyo mag-isip. Ito nalang, the fact that someone like Vice Ganda rose to popularity, that already tells you something is wrong with our entertainment industry and its consumers (aka the masa).

    It also tells you where our society is heading.

    Di ba nagkasakit yan dati si Vice Ganda? akala ko mamamatay na.
  • cretinous00cretinous00 PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    movies aren't as profitable as they were before. the top-4 MMFF managed only 150 million combined in a week. that is loooooww. aside from DVD offering a cheaper alternative, movie tickets are rather expensive, as a percentage of a (poor) person's monthly income. this doesn't even consider a dependent who either has to save from allowances or do odd jobs ---all for a movie ticket.
  • donjuan0010donjuan0010 PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    that is why you ignore MMFF if you don't want pinoy masa films and support cinemalaya if you want high quality pinoy films.
  • rubberr_duckyrubberr_ducky PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Yep! Alisin na ang ban sa mga foreign films. Nung Sabado ay haggard mag book sa Imax ng SW. May mga sked na nawala maski di pa fully booked kaya MOA bagsak ko.

    OT...


    Basura na ang nilalabas na pelikula sa MMFF. At nakaka-contribute yan sa pag bagsak ng quality ng mga pelikula na pagpipilian tuwing December. Last na pinanood ko ay yung KKK na (imho) ay maganda pagkakagawa. Pero after nun wala na at sinusumpa ko kada MMFF season.
  • Alpha_GreenAlpha_Green PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    that is why you ignore MMFF if you don't want pinoy masa films and support cinemalaya if you want high quality pinoy films.

    How will you ignore if there is a ban on foreign films for a certain period? Sabi nila ginagawa daw yun in order daw to help and support our local films. Well there's a saying 'God helps those who help themselves'. It seems our local film industry is not helping themselves in order to get more audience. Rather than try to produce good films, they stick to the status quo and produce CRAPPY Vice Ganda- like movies, then let the cycle perpetuate.
  • CelynneCelynne PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Nasa criteria yan at nasa namimili ng pelilkula para sa festival. Kaya nga inaalis ang kumpetisyon ng foreign films para may captive market ang local quality films.
  • NilsNils PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Celynne wrote: »
    Nasa criteria yan at nasa namimili ng pelilkula para sa festival. Kaya nga inaalis ang kumpetisyon ng foreign films para may captive market ang local quality films.

    the operative word is QUALITY... are you saying the crop of films that are being shown in the recent MMFF's are quality films?
  • CelynneCelynne PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    No, I'm saying that's the purpose of a festival, elevating the quality, and if quality deteriorates it's because the board set their criteria wrongly and allowed the entry of non-quality films.
  • Adore_Deli_GinAdore_Deli_Gin PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Celynne wrote: »
    No, I'm saying that's the purpose of a festival, elevating the quality, and if quality deteriorates it's because the board set their criteria wrongly and allowed the entry of non-quality films.

    Kung masyadong tataasan ang criteria baka 2 o 3 lang ang makakasali sa festival.

    There are already incentives in place that encourage film studios to produce high quality films. We have A and B film ratings that exempt movies from the amusement tax, and we have the actual MMFF awards. Still, Vice Ganda comedies have the highest ROI, in terms of magnitude and certainty.

    The organizers are trying to compensate on this loss of quality by having a separate set for indie films, which are shown in only a few theaters.
  • NilsNils PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Celynne wrote: »
    No, I'm saying that's the purpose of a festival, elevating the quality, and if quality deteriorates it's because the board set their criteria wrongly and allowed the entry of non-quality films.

    Which is exactly why this MMFF nonsense has to be scrapped. Even those who are supposed to filter the films aren't doing their mandated jobs. It's not the first time that people have pointed out that the films being shown are trash. There is still no remedial action to get quality films shown during the festival which results in the MMFF mocking the purpose it is meant to be performing.
    Media has to have some sort of social responsibility on what they show to their viewers. Hindi lang TV stations kundi pati Film makers. Kapag puro basura ang nakikita ng tao at hindi man lang lumelevel up, mananatiling basura ang gusto ng mga tao. Kung hahainan sila ng de kalidad na mga palabas, aba'y mag-iimprove ang panlasa nila.
  • ValorianValorian PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Naalala ko yung pag call out ni Lourd kay Bossing, since kaya niyang mang-impluwensya ng mga nanonood sa kanya, para gumawa ng may kalidad na pelikula pag MMFF..looks like pera-pera na lang si Bossing, hell with social responsibility
  • mel414mel414 PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Gaya ng nabanggit, MASA ang kadalasan tumatangkilik sa MMFF. At kaya kumikita ang movies nina Vice, Kris, Bossing, Aiai, etc lalo pag MMFF eh dahil din sa MASA. Yung mga pelikulang may social at historical relevance eh di masyadong kinakagat sa MMFF. Palagay ko kung nilagay yung Heneral Luna diyan eh baka langawin lang. Dahil na rin yan sa mindset ng karamihan na "Kaya nga ako nanonood ng sine dahil gusto ko ma-ENTERTAIN, hindi para mag isip"
  • Whatever criteria they are using, they should change it. Dapat grade A and B lang ang pwedeng entry. Kung walang mag qualify then cancel the festival. Parang na-remember ko na there's one year na walang Urian Awards kasi wala daw movie na umabot sa standards nila. Dapat ganon din mentality ng MMFF. The festival is supposed to showcase the best of the best.

    Kung kita lang habol nila, show the movie outside the festival.

    Kaya mas marami gusto ng manood ng indie films for quality movie kasi ginagawa nila iyong movie out of passion not for money.
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