Bakit Wala sa Biblia ang Pangalan ni Felix Y. Manalo

KidlatNgayon

Hindi patakaran ng Panginoong Diyos sa isiwalat ang pangalan ng mga isinusugo Niya, subali't sa tamang panahon, ang mga taong ito ang magpapatunay ng mga hula tungkol sa kanila.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QdoiGrd1v0

iskrotum

Patay na nga tamang panahon pa.

KidlatNgayon

iskrotum wrote: »

Patay na nga tamang panahon pa.

Buhay na buhay pa si FYM nang i-claim niya na siya ang ravenous bird from the east, a far place, who will bring God's people from the north and south back to God sa panahong "ends of the earth".

Isa pa, wala nang ibang nag-angkin ng hulang ito. Si Cyrus ay hindi inangkin na siya ang nasa hula ni Isaiah bilang Ibong Mandaragit. Bakit? Sapagka't hindi naman siya kinasangkapan ng Diyos sa pangangaral ng katotohanan upang maligtas ang sangkatauhan dahil siya ay pagano.

philly

trying hard na trying hard.

Python2008

Totoo po na si FYM lang ang tinutukoy sa bibliya na bird from the east kahit wala man pangalan nya. Ilang beses na yan napatunayan.

RavlaM

Python2008 wrote: »

Totoo po na si FYM lang ang tinutukoy sa bibliya na bird from the east kahit wala man pangalan nya. Ilang beses na yan napatunayan.

Bird nga ba?? lumilipad ba si Felix o mahilig lang sa mga ibong mababa ang lipad.

Archimedes

RavlaM wrote: »

Bird nga ba?? lumilipad ba si Felix o mahilig lang sa mga ibong mababa ang lipad.

Birdbrain lang talaga yan

KidlatNgayon

RavlaM wrote: »

Bird nga ba?? lumilipad ba si Felix o mahilig lang sa mga ibong mababa ang lipad.

Archimedes wrote: »

Birdbrain lang talaga yan

MGA SUPER-BABA ang argumento lang, bahahaha!

alchemistofophir

hindi Year of the Rooster si Felix. Year of the Dog (b.1886) sya.

ano ba ang sabi sa biblya?

Matthew 7:15
"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves."

dogs and wolves belong to the same family. rooster and birds belong to the same family.

Definitely not the ravenous bird.

KidlatNgayon

alchemistofophir wrote: »

hindi Year of the Rooster si Felix. Year of the Dog (b.1886) sya.

ano ba ang sabi sa biblya?

Matthew 7:15
"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves."

dogs and wolves belong to the same family. rooster and birds belong to the same family.

Definitely not the ravenous bird.

Actually, this is what the bible says about people who practice and believe in occultism and wizardry:

Leviticus 20:6
Verse Concepts
'As for the person who turns to mediums and to spiritists, to play the harlot after them, I will also set My face against that person and will cut him off from among his people.

Micah 5:12
Verse Concepts
"I will cut off sorceries from your hand, And you will have fortune-tellers no more.

Revelation 21:8
Verse Concepts
"But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."



The use of a ravenous (hungry or voracious) bird or bird of prey to symbolize a messenger who will "snatch" people from other religions suits FYM! He tiredlessly preached to people who belonged to the Protestant churches (north) and Catholic church (south) to make them aware of the true church which they must belong to be saved (INC).

The use of the term "ravenous wolves" fit those who preach false teachings or doctrines to people who will be led to the Lake of Fire. After all, they are "wolves" in sheep's clothing, as attested by the catholic priests' admission that their clothing replicates that which is worn by the "Lamb of God".

"The Alb. The long linen gown worn by the priest is called the alb, meaning simply the white garment... It is a survival of the white Roman toga. Its white color denotes the necessity of purity, both of soul and body, in him who offers the Lamb of God to the Father."

http://www.awakentoprayer.org/vestments.htm

alchemistofophir

KidlatNgayon wrote: »

Actually, this is what the bible says about people who practice and believe in occultism and wizardry:

Leviticus 20:6
Verse Concepts
'As for the person who turns to mediums and to spiritists, to play the harlot after them, I will also set My face against that person and will cut him off from among his people.

Micah 5:12
Verse Concepts
"I will cut off sorceries from your hand, And you will have fortune-tellers no more.

Revelation 21:8
Verse Concepts
"But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."



The use of a ravenous (hungry or voracious) bird or bird of prey to symbolize a messenger who will "snatch" people from other religions suits FYM! He tiredlessly preached to people who belonged to the Protestant churches (north) and Catholic church (south) to make them aware of the true church which they must belong to be saved (INC).

The use of the term "ravenous wolves" fit those who preach false teachings or doctrines to people who will be led to the Lake of Fire. After all, they are "wolves" in sheep's clothing, as attested by the catholic priests' admission that their clothing replicates that which is worn by the "Lamb of God".

"The Alb. The long linen gown worn by the priest is called the alb, meaning simply the white garment... It is a survival of the white Roman toga. Its white color denotes the necessity of purity, both of soul and body, in him who offers the Lamb of God to the Father."

http://www.awakentoprayer.org/vestments.htm

kung lahat gawa ng Diyos, gawa din nya ang mga bagay sa occult.

At emblematic yan. Chinese Zodiac is part of our Filipino culture, since nakipagunayan tayo sa China at naimbibe natin ang ilan sa kanilang culture.

kung si Cyrus ay sinasabing eagle dahil sa mga drawings lamang, abay mas definitive at may authority ang Chinese Zodiac.

KidlatNgayon

alchemistofophir wrote: »

kung lahat gawa ng Diyos, gawa din nya ang mga bagay sa occult.

At emblematic yan. Chinese Zodiac is part of our Filipino culture, since nakipagunayan tayo sa China at naimbibe natin ang ilan sa kanilang culture.

kung si Cyrus ay sinasabing eagle dahil sa mga drawings lamang, abay mas definitive at may authority ang Chinese Zodiac.

Lahat ay gawa ng Diyos pero may mga bagay na HINDI nya pinahihintulutang i-practice ng tao, sapagka't ang tao ay may limited understanding at may mga bagay na hindi pa naaabot ng pagkaunawa niya. Upang mabuhay nang maayos at maligtas sa kapahamakan, ang kailangan lang gawin ng tao ay sundin ang mga kautusan ng Diyos. Ito ang gusto ng Diyos.

Deuteronomy 5:33
New International Version
Walk in obedience to all that the LORD your God has commanded you, so that you may live and prosper and prolong your days in the land that you will possess.

KidlatNgayon

Many deceived people say that you can still be a Christian and practice witchcraft, which is false. It’s sad that now there is witchcraft in the church and so-called men of God are allowing this to happen. Black magic is real and throughout Scripture it is condemned.

Witchcraft is from the devil and anyone who practices it will not enter into Heaven. It is an abomination to God.

Revelation 21:27 Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life.

Revelation 21:8 “But cowards, unbelievers, the corrupt, murderers, the immoral, those who practice witchcraft, idol worshipers, and all liars–their fate is in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”

Galatians 5:19-21 Now the actions of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity, promiscuity, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, rivalry, jealously, outbursts of anger, quarrels, conflicts, factions, envy, murder, drunkenness, wild partying, and things like that. I am telling you now, as I have told you in the past, that people who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

What does the Bible say?

Micah 5:11-12 I will tear down your walls and demolish your defenses. I will put an end to all witchcraft, and there will be no more fortune-tellers.

Micah 3:7 Seers will be put to shame. Those who practice witchcraft will be disgraced. All of them will cover their faces, because God won’t answer them.

1 Samuel 15:23 Rebellion is as sinful as witchcraft, and stubbornness as bad as worshiping idols. So because you have rejected the command of the LORD, he has rejected you as king.”

Leviticus 19:26 “Do not eat meat that has not been drained of its blood. “Do not practice fortune-telling or witchcraft.

Deuteronomy 18:10-13 For example, never sacrifice your son or daughter as a burnt offering. And do not let your people practice fortune-telling, or use sorcery, or interpret omens, or engage in witchcraft, or cast spells, or function as mediums or psychics, or call forth the spirits of the dead. Anyone who does these things is detestable to the Lord. It is because the other nations have done these detestable things that the Lord your God will drive them out ahead of you. But you must be blameless before the Lord your God.

Revelation 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

Isaiah 47:12-14 “Now use your magical charms! Use the spells you have worked at all these years! Maybe they will do you some good. Maybe they can make someone afraid of you. All the advice you receive has made you tired. Where are all your astrologers, those stargazers who make predictions each month? Let them stand up and save you from what the future holds. But they are like straw burning in a fire; they cannot save themselves from the flame. You will get no help from them at all; their hearth is no place to sit for warmth.


Trust God instead

Isaiah 8:19 Someone may say to you, “Let’s ask the mediums and those who consult the spirits of the dead. With their whisperings and mutterings, they will tell us what to do.” But shouldn’t people ask God for guidance? Should the living seek guidance from the dead?


Put to death for the sin of occultism or witchcraft.

Leviticus 20:26-27 You must be holy because I, the LORD, am holy. I have set you apart from all other people to be my very own. “Men and women among you who act as mediums or who consult the spirits of the dead must be put to death by stoning. They are guilty of a capital offense.”

1 Chronicles 10:13-14 So Saul died because he was unfaithful to the LORD. He failed to obey the LORD’s command, and he even consulted a medium instead of asking the LORD for guidance. So the LORD killed him and turned the kingdom over to David son of Jesse.



Should we fear the powers of Satan? No, but we should stay far from it.

1 John 5:18-19 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not. And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.

1 John 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

Archimedes

ayan si Felix Manalo regular practitioner ng withcraft/occultism kasi mahilig siyang mangHULA

KidlatNgayon

Archimedes wrote: »

ayan si Felix Manalo regular practitioner ng withcraft/occultism kasi mahilig siyang mangHULA

Iba ang prophecies na galing sa bibia sa occultism. Ang Diyos ay nagpo-prophecy, si Cristo at mga apostles ay nag-prophecy. Ang mga tunay na prophets na mula sa Diyos ay nagpo-prophecy lang ng mga bagay na mag-be-benefit ang mga tao mula sa salita ng Diyos!

kurapika_hunter

ahihihi...Ni hindi nga kilala ng Big 4 si Felix, samantalang napakalinaw sa Biblia na nakausap ng 5th Angel ang apat....pinagloloko mo na naman ang sarili mo eh...

Bakit aaminin ni Cyrus na sya ang ravenous bird eh nakita naman na sa kanyang gawa na sya ang tinutukoy sa propisiya?...Nakausap nga nya ang Dyos hindi ba?hihihi

KidlatNgayon

kurapika_hunter wrote: »

ahihihi...Ni hindi nga kilala ng Big 4 si Felix, samantalang napakalinaw sa Biblia na nakausap ng 5th Angel ang apat....pinagloloko mo na naman ang sarili mo eh...

Bakit aaminin ni Cyrus na sya ang ravenous bird eh nakita naman na sa kanyang gawa na sya ang tinutukoy sa propisiya?...Nakausap nga nya ang Dyos hindi ba?hihihi

Si apostol Tomas ang guilty sa pagbubulalas nyan!

Si Cyrus ay ginamit ng Diyos sa pagpapalaya ng mga Israelita kaya kabaligtaran siya ng word na "ravenous". Hindi niya tinipon ang mga tao KUNDI PINALAYA!

Alam mo ba ibig sabihin ng "ravenous? Alam mo bang PAGANO si Cyrus?

KidlatNgayon

Various are the ways and means employed by the enemies of tryth in order to hinder people from accepting the commission of Bro. Felix Manalo as God’s last messenger. We sincerely believe that Bro. Felix Manalo is the fulfillment of the prophecy mentioned in Isaiah 46:11.

Lately, our critics have found, allegedly, a prima facie evidence to prove that Cyrus is the fulfillment of Isaiah’s concerning the ravenous bird. The evidence, they aver, is Isaiah 46:11 itself. They cite The living bible thus: ”I will call the swift bird of prey from the east—that man Cyrus from far away.”

At first glance, it seems that our critics are justified in believing that Cyrus is the ravenous bird mentioned by the Prophet Isaiah. Our readers must take note of the fact that our detractors conveniently used Isaiah 46:11 of the living bible which was translated in a paraphrase style.

What are paraphrases, by the way? “To paraphrase is to say something in different words than the author used. It is a restatement of an author’s thoughts, using different words than he did.” (Preface, The living Bible) Take note to that, Is there any danger in this style of translation? “There are dangers in paraphrases, as well as values. For whenever the author’s exact words are not translated from the original languages, there is a possibility that the translator, however honest, may be giving the English reader something that the original writer did not mean to say.”

If there is danger whenever the author’s exact words are not translated from the original language, thus giving the readers something the original writer did not mean to say, how much more when the translator inserted something that the original author did not say.

Most of the translations and versions of the bible do not contain the name Cyrus as far as Isaiah 46:11 is concerned. The conclusion is inevitable—the name Cyrus was inserted by the translator of The living bible. Such an actuation is extremely dangerous.

We are not against from The living bible or any translations or versions of the bible per se, but we reject and do not use any verse erroneously translated.

Is our rejection of Cyrus as the alleged fulfillment of Isaiah 46:11 merely based on our refusal to accept Isaiah 46:11 of the living bible because it was erroneously translated? What differentiate the Ravenous bird from Cyrus?

THE RAVENOUS BIRD

The ravenous bird will execute God’s counsel… Is. 46:11
God’s counsel is to bring his righteousness and salvation to those who are stouthearted and far from righteousness… Is. 46:11-13
The ravenous bird will snatch people out of the fire… Jude 1:23
This is God’s counsel… Is. 46:13
The name of the ravenous bird, a man, is not mentioned… Is. 46:11

CYRUS

Cyrus shall perform all of God’s pleasure… Is. 44:28
God’s pleasure is that Jerusalem be built and the temple’s foundation be laid. Cyrus, king of Persia did this… Ezra 1:1-11
Cyrus is to subdue nations before him… Is. 45:1
The kingdoms of the earth were given to Cyrus… Ezra 1:3
Cyrus’ name is mentioned in the prophecy… Is. 44:28, 45:1


These are merely some of the differences between the ravenous bird and Cyrus. The conclusion is inevitable: Cyrus is not the ravenous bird mentioned in Isaiah 46:11. Who then is the fulfillment? We sincerely believe Bro. Felix Manalo is the fulfillment of the said prophecy. We will therefore proceed to unravel the prophecy and to show its fulfillment.

Let us quote Isaiah 46:11-13, King james Version:

“Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.”
“Hearken unto me, ye stouthearted, that are far from righteousness:
“I will bring near my righteousness; it shall not be far off, and salvation shall not tarry; and I will place salvation in Zion for Israel my glory.”

Who are the stouthearted or hard –hearted and are far from righteousness? Certainly not Israel although they were hard-hearted for them belonged to covenants, giving of the law, the right to serve God, and the promises (Rom. 9:4). For the benefit of Israel, Cyrus’ spirit was moved by God to build him a house at Jerusalem (Ezra 1:1-11). Who then, are not only stouthearted but are also far from righteousness? The gentiles: “You were not born Jewish. You are the people the Jews call "uncircumcised."Those who call you "uncircumcised" call themselves "circumcised." (Their circumcision is only something they themselves do on their bodies.) Remember that in the past you were without Christ. You were not citizens of Israel, and you had no part in the agreements with the promise that God made to his people. You had no hope, and you did not know God.” Eph. 2:11-12

The Ravenous bird from the east is actually a man from a far country. He is, therefore, from the far east. This is supported by a related prophecy in Isaiah 43:5-6 wherein it is stated that God’s chosen messenger and his seed are from the far east:

“Don't be afraid, because I am with you. I will bring your children from the east and gather you from the west.I will tell the north: Give my people to me. I will tell the south: Don't keep my people in prison. Bring my sons from far away and my daughters from faraway places.”
Students of history will readily admit that Cyrus is from Persia (presently called Iran) a country geographically located in the middle east, (webster’s new world dictionary of the American language) another proof that Cyrus is not the Ravenous bird prophesied by Isaiah 46:11.

By the name will the seed from the far East, the object of God’s counsel to be performed by the Ravenous bird, be called? They will be called by the name by God for his glory (Isa. 43: 5-7). The name Christ is for God’s glory (Acts 2:36; Philip. 2:9-11) How is the name Christ called upon the beneficiaries of God’s counsel, that is, his righteousness and salvation? They are called Church of Christ (Acts 20:28, Lamsa). The Gospel is the power of God unto salvation and God’s righteousness is revealed therein. The ravenous bird , therefore, is a preacher of the gospel and not a subduer of nations as Cyrus was, another glaring proof that Cyrus is not that Ravenous bird.

The time element involved in the prophecy concerning the ravenous bird and his seed from the far east, recognized by God as his sons and daughters, is ends of the earth. The end of the earth is Christ’s second coming (Mt. 24:3). So, when is the ends of the earth? “In the same way, when you see all these things happening, you will know that the time is near, ready to come.” Mt. 24:33 Which are the things to be seen heralding that the end of the earth is near, things that will happen during the ends of the earth?

“You will hear about wars and stories of wars that are coming, but don't be afraid. These things must happen before the end comes. Nations will fight against other nations; kingdoms will fight against other kingdoms. There will be times when there is no food for people to eat, and there will be earthquakes in different places. These things are like the first pains when something new is about to be born.” Mt. 24:6-8

And all these referring to the First World war that started on July 27, 1914 is the time where the Church of Christ registered on the Philippine government.

sophion

kurapika_hunter wrote: »

ahihihi...Ni hindi nga kilala ng Big 4 si Felix, samantalang napakalinaw sa Biblia na nakausap ng 5th Angel ang apat....pinagloloko mo na naman ang sarili mo eh...

ganyan talaga theres a sucker for every cult leader.

Archimedes

kurapika_hunter

Gunggong talaga mga Ministro nyo ano?..sabagay, mga bobo't manloloko sila..basahin mo ule ang pinost mo at tantyahin mo ang panlolokong ginawa sa inyo para maniwala kyo..mga uto-uto...

ahihihi...eh kung isampal ko sayo ang history before WW1 na meron ng naganap na gyera, lindol at kawalan ng pagkain sa mga tao?ahihihi

Sabihin nyo kay Quibuloy yan at panigurado akong sasampalin nya kayo ng Propisiya na galing sa Biblia din...wahahaha...mga ****