Uytengsu wants out of the PBA and forming a new league?

wynnewynne commonsensical guy PExer
is fred uytengsu and alaska pulling out of the pba? i have read a column about a possible pull out of alaska from the pba:
" akala ko, ako lang ang malikot ang pagiisip among my colleagues yun pala suspetsoso din ang mga ito.
nagulat ako nang tumawag ang sa akin ang isang veteran scribe bearing the news na mag-pupullout na raw from the pba ang alaska. very realiable daw ang source dahil isa sa mga executive daw ito ng kompanya.
actually kumalat na ang balitang ito on the heels of last tuesdays pba board meeting where the sale of the rfm franchise to cosmos bottling, now owned by the san miguel corporation was ratified by the body with a 7-2 vote.
disgustadong-disgustado daw si alaska team owner fred uytengsu sa mga nangyayari at marami rin ang nagsasabi na pati ang talk n text/mobiline ni manny pangilinan ay sumama sa possible pull-out ni uytengsu.
dahil itong dalawang franchise lang ang bumoto against sa sale of the rfm francise sa cosmos. with the addition of cosmos, apat na nagayon ang teams ng san miguel sa pba, halos kalahati na ng total membership.sabi nga nung ibang taga-media na dahil nagiging san miguel league na ang pba, di malayong mangyari o baka magkaroon ng breakaway group who will band together to form a new league. eh sa nangyayari nagyon mukahng hindi malayo magkatutoo ang prediksyon.
kung hindi kayo naniniwala, i analyze natin:sino sino sa tingin ninyo ang maaring maging miyembro ng bagong super league na sa tigin ko eh malapit nang matatag...
to start with, there is welcoat and lamoiyan corporation, makers fo hapee toothpaste na matagal nang kumakatok sa pintuan ng pba. siguradong sasama ang alaska at mobiline, lalong-lalo na ang welcoat na ayaw talagang papasukin sa pba ng board (which team owner terry que and raymond yu assailed the pba for becoming under control by you know who) bagamat inimbita nila ito mag miyembro for three years na. o apat na teams na yan...
tapos, di ba sabi ng rfm sakaling mawala ang franchise nila sa pba, maaaring bumili sila uli ng another franchise. pero kung may alternative at halos pareho o pareho rin ang makukuhang advertising exposure at a smaller investment, tiyak na sasali si joey concepcion.
then possibly sasama rin yung ibang teams like shark at blu sa pbl and yung iba pang natitirang pba ballclubs na di pagaari ng san miguel gaya ng red bull at sta. lucia. what will stop these ballclubs from joining the new league, lalot pantay na ang labanan dito.
pwedeng ring makipag mrege sa mba o di kaya may interesadong team na galing sa mba tulad ng LBC batangas blades at cebuana lhuillier-cebu gems...
maraming posibilidad at marami pang ibang kumpanya na pwedeng i-tap as members.kailangan lang magaling ang organizers lalo na ang marketing group ng bagong liga to make it sucessful. kung mga seven or eight teams lang kayang bumuo agad.di bagat lahat naman ng liga sa ganito nagsisimula.
kaya hwag kayong magtaka kung one of these days eh may mababalita kayo na bagong grupo na nag-oorganize o nababalitang nagmimiting para sa a possible bagong liga."



and the columnist added that bumaligtad daw ang tanduay dahil kakailanagnin pala ng boto mula sa san miguel bloc pag pinagusapan na yung sale ng team sa fed-ex.usap-usapan din na maaaring binigay daw ng san miguel sa sta. lucia ang pba governors cup title kapalit ang boto nito on the pop cola issue..pati daw yung championship ng red bull sa commisioners cup ay bayad daw sa pagboto naman sa pag retain ng purefoods indefinetely in the league. kaya ang tingin eh mukahng nagbabayad ang san miguel...

sa mga nangyayaring ito sa pba, di kaya nag-kakawatak watak na ang liga?

Would you follow Fred Uytengsu if he put up a PBA "clone" league?

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  • well with 4 teams under SMC i dont blame him for wanting out of the PBA...but i think its still very far-fetched....

    putting up a new league is just not as easy........kahit San Miguel nga mahihirapan magtayo ng sariling liga eh......

    i think Mr. Uytengsu is just very frustrated that the PBA board has allowed SMC to own 4 teams because as i recall he has walked out of PBA board meetings before concerning the transfer of teams to SMC...........

    even if PBL and MBA teams join the "new league" the PBA is still where the talent will be......if Alaska does decide to bolt the PBA and join another league I doubt it if the likes of Duremdes, Peek and Arigo will join them......
  • meleagant8meleagant8 Crimson Packer PExer
    malabo mangyari....

    look at wat hapen sa mba...

    nahihirapan na sila....

    isa lang ibig sabihin nun...


    mahina na tlga ang alaska at ayaw lang un tanggapin ni uytengsu....
  • SiCkBoY^SiCkBoY^ The Enemy Within PExer
    my two cents:

    fred uytengsu is being just. that's about it. the PBA charter prohibits a corporation from having more than two teams. he was disgusted when Purefoods was given an indefenite extension and even moreso now that SMC has four teams. and he has a point. para saan pa yung charter kung nde naman pala susundin? they're violating their very own constitution.
  • PethmaluPethmalu Member PExer
    yup, you said it... hay nako, kahit saan talaga may politika... pag malakas ka pwede mo nang i-bend ang rules or should i say break it.
  • XiaoyuXiaoyu Courtside Princess PExer
    I SO can't blame him.
    If I were in his shoes I'd probably contemplate leaving the league as well. Kalokohan na kasi yung nangyayari, eh. :hopeless: Naexplain na sakin dozens of times (kasi pinapaulit ko ng pinapaulit kasi HINDI KO TALAGA MAINTINDIHAN!!!), pero until now, hindi ko pa rin makita yung logic kung pano magiging beneficial to the league ang pagkakaron ng SMC ng tatlong koponan. For the life of me, I CAN'T GET IT!!!!!!! :angry:

    Pero in the long run, hindi rin magiging beneficial to Alaska kung gawin nila 'to. I think Fred Uytengsu was just trying to make a point when he said that he wanted to leave the league.
  • meleagant8meleagant8 Crimson Packer PExer
    okei...

    i agree....

    kaso sana the pba limit the teams of 1 franchise...

    personally...kahit pfoods fan ako at die hard patrimonio fan....

    mas okei pa kung binili na lang ng welcoat ung franchise nila....

    sabi kasi ni coach eric "ayaw kasi naming magkahiwalay..."

    kung nabili ng welcoat un...mas competitive ang pfoods....

    imagine a backcourt of

    NOY CASTILLO and RENREN RITUALO

    the a frontline of

    ALVIN PATRIMONIO, YANCY DE OCAMPO and ANDY SEIGLE....

    di ba....

    sayang.....

    tapos nasa bench...

    REY EVANGELISTA, JOJO MANALO, BOYET FERNANDEZ, RICHARD YEE, ROGER YAP, EUGENE TAN....

    sayang.....

    tapos dyan pa si DANNY S!!!!

    HAHAHAH!!!!!!

    :weg:
  • tiffactiffac Manners Maketh Man PExer
    Actually thats old news and SMB giving games away is something thats not to be suprised off. So if Alaska quits there are money to allocate and teams to buy. Hell! this is the Philippines the most corrupt democratic country in the world what do you expect? fair play?!

    PBA is a SMB League ~nuff said.
  • sherlocksherlock Member ✭✭✭
    hindi ko siya masisisi kung gagawin niya yun. nakakainis na rin naman kasi yung nangyayari eh. biro mo, smc having four teams in the pba... :rolleyes: sobra na yun ha! :mad:
  • HulkHulk Jolly Green Giant ✭✭
    Much as I am a fan of SMB, unfair na talaga yung nangyari na four teams na ang hawak nila. They can literally shape the rules to fit their whims. Furthermore, ideas of possible game fixings between those teams would be inevitable. Mawawalan na talaga ng credibility ang PBA.

    Aside from Alaska, Talk n' Text and the other PBA wannabes, pwede rin ang Tanduay. Remember ipinamigay nila lahat yung players nila sa SMB franchises dahil na-bad trip na rin si Bong Tan dun sa sitwasyon.
  • AnthonyServinioAnthonyServinio Member In Focus ✭✭✭
    The door is always open for Wilfred Uytengsu to join or invest in the MBA.
  • m-u-g-e-nm-u-g-e-n sugarless. PExer
    i believe that building a new league would be as hard as hell. just look at what happened to the MBA... they started out big... and now they ended up, talent-less?

    the columnist's opinion that if uytengsu would be building a new league, and PBL teams would join them, don't you think that PBL is already connected with the PBA?
  • tiffactiffac Manners Maketh Man PExer
    True PBL is under contract with the PBA which means to state the little league of the San Miguel Beer.

    Now to a point. Fans can only take so much and if the PBA keeps continuing this trend of bowing to SMB then in the near future all this speculations of a new league or teams joining the other league won't be just fiction it might become a reality.

    sad but corruption has been in the PBA for a longtime and we the fans have been supporting it.
  • AnthonyServinioAnthonyServinio Member In Focus ✭✭✭
    Let me add to my previous statement:

    If a company spends around 40 to 60 million pesos per year to maintain a PBA team, then the MBA is a more viable option. Why?

    It will only cost a company at least 7.5 million pesos per year to attain what the MBA terms as "nominal sponsorship" wherein the team will carry the sponsor's name like what happened in 2001 when the Batangas Blades became LBC Batangas, the Davao Eagles became TPG Davao and the Cebu Gems became Cebuana Lhuillier. In Europe, we have teams like Benneton Treviso, Philips Milan and Knorr Bologna who follow the same method of naming.

    There's a very big difference between 7.5 and 40 millions pesos! With 7.5 million pesos, the company will get the same media mileage through print, TV, radio and the Internet. The team does not even have to worry about things like recruiting players. All it has to do is pay and there is an instant team already, no hassles.

    I think Mr. Uytengsu must deeply consider these points raised. As it stands, teams in Negros, Olongapo and Pampanga (plus at least two expansion teams to be named later) are in the process of looking for sponsors for MBA 2002. Now if he is mad about the fact that the PBA is now a San Miguel-Cojuangco league, then why not put up three General Milling teams: Alaska Negros, Granny Goose Pampanga and Hills Brothers Olongapo! At 22.5 million, it's still a far cry from a single-team PBA budget.
  • tiffactiffac Manners Maketh Man PExer
    40 Million!!!

    What the hell are they doing with a 40 Million? Isn't that too much just to start a franchise?...
  • i still dont understand why the PBA board agreed to change the league constitution therefore allowing SMC to own 4 teams........ marami pa namang companies ang willing pumasok sa PBA...hindi naman sila mawawalang mg teams kung ma disband ang Purefoods at Pop......
  • thehitmanthehitman The best there is ✭✭
    If Uytengsu wanted to make a statement, he did well. But seriously, that may not be a viable option. Alaska as a team might eventually die if he decides to form a new league. The MBA should be a good enough example. Even with backing from ABS-CBN, the MBA really struggled. And with ABS-CBN pulling out their commitment, it is now up to the teams to finance themselves. Of course if their financing power is as good as the commercial teams in PBA, then they might flourish eventually. But given the situation right now, it's just not a good option.

    :cool:
  • rhk111rhk111 Son of Boltok The Rapist PExer
    Speaking of possibilities, Negros would be an excellent team for Alaska to back up or sponsor. I mean, not only does it have a good following nationwide, but it also has a very fanatical fan base over there at Bacolod, where they'd probably turn it into a cult if they win a National title. All that for an investment of only P7.5 million. Alaska can spend an additional, say, P10 million for "extras" like sponsoring games, ads, providing an alternative for those Frutos dancing mascots during half time, etc. and still be half of what they're spending for a PBA team now. That's excellent value for money, I'd say. Come to think of it, when it comes to possibilities, the same thing could hold true for Tanduay.
  • grimlockgrimlock girl magnet PExer
    this will not be a good option, right now. the PBA is still the league to be in, but even though things loom, it is better to see first what will happen in 2002. if things become funny for the season, then it will be time to ship out. it's all business anyway.

    transferring to the MBA is still not viable because the league is still shaking in its foundation. though the recent expansion of some teams is great, but still not enough reason to bolt out of the PBA yet. give it a year and if the MBA thrives, we'll see what's next.

    actually, uytengsu transferring to the MBA will only benefit that league. :p

    :snail:
  • ZipaLilusaLZipaLilusaL GOD'S GIFT 2 GIRLS PExer
    IS THIS CONFIRMED?
  • The RockThe Rock Old school smackdown layer PExer
    If this is true, Fred Uytengsu is just stating what every non-San Miguel team in the PBA has been feeling since Danding Cojuangco started gobbling up the other franchises in the league.:angry: Always knew Danding was going to be bad for the PBA, now Danding's practically driving away The Rock's favorite team from a league where he has given so much to.

    Great job Danding, you're really a classy businessman.:rolleyes:
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