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Bakit mahina sa military warfare ang Philippines?

jeganrrjeganrr PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
Because according to history we were conquered and colonized by Spain by more than 300 years.We beat Spain after that but by the help of the Americans. Americans defeated us and the Japanese defeated us. In you opinion bakit mahina sa military warfare ang Philippines?

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  • NilsNils PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    jeganrr wrote: »
    Because according to history we were conquered and colonized by Spain by more than 300 years.We beat Spain after that but by the help of the Americans. Americans defeated us and the Japanese defeated us. In you opinion bakit mahina sa military warfare ang Philippines?

    Hindi mahina sa military warfare ang mga Pinoy. Knowledge and experience-wise, Filipino soldiers are respected even by elite soldiers in first world countries.

    Mahina ang armed forces natin dahil dun sa first word, 'ARMED'. Kulang tayo sa equipment, kulang sa armas, luma ang armas. Equip the whole Army with US level front line equipment and pupusta ako, pag nagsagawa ng offensive ang Army vs rebels, pulbos ang kalaban.
  • despisePappusdespisePappus 👁 PBB Loyalist
    In History, marami rin naman tayong battles na pinanalunan. That says something about warfare. But then again, we lost the wars dahil eventually ang mas malakas sa armas at sa manpower ang mananalo.

    Sa ngayon, mahina talaga ang posisyon ng ating armed forces. Sana patuloy ang pag-beef-up ng administrayon dito.
  • We got the Spaniards holed up in the walled city. They were spread thin because they were fighting US too. We were conned by the US, our troops only needed to storm that base and wouldve won, but the US made a deal with Aguinaldo[which they denied] to stop the fighting. While Spain negotiated with US, they will withdraw and surrender to them, not to the Indios.

    Had Aguinaldo listened to his generals, we wouldve given the Americans a better fight. His generals wanted him to set two type of defenses for they knew that after the Spaniards let go of the islands, the Americans would be our next conquerors. First was to make it hard for them to land, funneling them into ambush positions. We still have the numbers at that time. But they know they will eventually be reinforced, thats the second defense was for in the mountains. While they did set up some defenses, it was the kind that could be captured and be used against us. And that what happened. One general wanted a defensive stance near the mountains. That didnt happen. Aguinaldo ran, with the Americans on his tail, he sacrificed his boytoy general Del Pilar to slow them down.

    Our best generals, they fought due to regionalism while some were killed by their own kababayan.

    Against Japan, American troops where here too. They gave up. Pinoy's didnt and staged a rather successful resistance controlling more than half of the country[well, the mountains etc :D]

    excerpt from SuperBook. :D
  • ValorianValorian PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    jeganrr wrote: »
    Because according to history we were conquered and colonized by Spain by more than 300 years.We beat Spain after that but by the help of the Americans. Americans defeated us and the Japanese defeated us. In you opinion bakit mahina sa military warfare ang Philippines?

    Kelan pala natin natalo ang mga Kastila? :lol:

    di ba, binenta nila tayo sa mga Kano, at nag-moro moro lang sila sa Manila Bay, para magmukhang tinalo ng mga Kano yung mga Kastila
  • Ghost RiderGhost Rider PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Valorian wrote: »
    Kelan pala natin natalo ang mga Kastila? :lol:

    di ba, binenta nila tayo sa mga Kano, at nag-moro moro lang sila sa Manila Bay, para magmukhang tinalo ng mga Kano yung mga Kastila

    Hindi moro-moro yun. Talagang talo na natin sila, putol na ang supply nila ng armas, pagkain etc. mula sa labas. Kagaya ng sinabi ni Marcus hunt, sabwatan ni aguinaldo at US ang nangyari. Si Aguinaldo ang kanununuan ng mga traydor at kurakot na pulitiko natin :lol:

    Kahiya-hiya kasi kapag sa mga indio lang sila natalo, mas ok sa mga Amerikano, tapos kikita pa sila.

    Kahit ang pagpatay kay Bonifacio, may basbas ng US yan at ni Aguinaldo, alam nila mahihirapan silang sakupin tayo habang buhay ang Supremo.
  • kurttrukkurttruk PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    hindi kasi binibigyan prayoridad yung Military naten, masyadong malambot yung noo nang pangulo..yung local na rebelde nga hindi kayang pulbusin eh.. kaya ano pa nga ba ang aasahan mo kung sakali mang gyerahin yung pinas. yayariin na tayo nang china, tapos wala ibang hirit yung gobyerno naten kungdi diplomasya....diplomasya
  • art727art727 PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Ang training ng pinoy ay kulang puro gaya sa mga pelikulang Hollywood militar ng kano na sa totoo ay hindi nangyayari sa tunay na buhay.. Kapag nagpunta ka sa pagsasanay ng sundalong pinoy? Aakalain mong nasa gymnasium ka! Dahil parang Triathlon athlete ang mga kasangkapan! ZIP LINE? Wall Climbing? Walang hand to hand combat training.firefighting at sea/air activities pagtalon sa mga helicopter (Air Commandos)anong training sumailalim ang mga SAF? Bago ipinadala sa Mindanao.? Aber?

    Kailangang magtraining sila sa gubat tulad ng Jungle Warfare ng sa ganon ay magkaroon ng kakayahang lumaban sa mga kasuluksulukan ng gubat at tiyak magkakaroon ng magandang laban ang mga sundalo sa NPA at Abu Sayaff na mas mahusay sa guerilla warfare.kesa AFP.
    Matanong ko lang ano ba ang mga pambihirang talento ng SAF?lahat ba sa kanila ay magagaling lumangoy at certified scuba diver? Sharpshooter? Marksman? O magagaling sa pagdukot at may SWAT (Special Weapons And Tactics) experience? Puwes! Kung meron silang katangiang ganito? Walang bisnis na pamunuan ni Purisima ang SAF dahil mismo si mr. Purisima ay kulang ang pangangatawan na maging SAF..
  • gotta lick itgotta lick it PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    it is because the rebellion and secession movements in the philippines are the backyard industry of the AFP.





    in short, our military is unprofessional and they are selling their own weapons and ammunition to our enemies.
  • Meanie!!Meanie!! PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    inb4 peftok

    Anyway, May mga nameet akong amerkano sabi nila mga scout ranger daw natin among the best and respected, especially yung tracking skills daw sa atin sila nagpapatur0. Dont know if its true though. Maybe someone can shed light on this.

    I agree though na experience wise, di na rin papahuli ang pilipinas; siguro mid-tier narin kung dyan babasihen.
  • darmonxdarmonx PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    mali ka ts.. filipinos are very good soldiers and excellent in warfare lalu na kung isasama mo mga muslim. ang kulang yung leadership and advanced weaponry.

    sa tingin mo ba kastila sumakop sa pilipinas? mali! mga kapampangan! sila mga sundalo pero pinuno mga dayuhan... again.. failed pilipino leadership.

    panahon ng kano.. their weapons were just too advanced but filipinos kept fighting.. did anyone truly conquer mindanao?

    against the japanese.. again.. more advanced weapons pero patuloy laban ng mga maliliit na panig ng guerilla.

    mamasapano.. this is just pure poor leadership. wow.. mas advanced weaponry ng pnp pero 44 patay sa kanila tapos 18 lang sa rebelde.

    wars are won with great leaders in combination with advanced weaponry. filipnos are good fighters but make poor leaders.
  • Alpha_GreenAlpha_Green PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Meanie!! wrote: »

    Anyway, May mga nameet akong amerkano sabi nila mga scout ranger daw natin among the best and respected, especially yung tracking skills daw sa atin sila nagpapatur0.

    Dahil ba dito?
  • QubethaQubetha PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    bakit nga ba mahina ang sandatahang lakas natin, dahil sa kurapsyon number 1 at number 2 naman, iba kasi prayoridad ng gobyerno natin, kung gusto nila palawigin ang sandatahang lakas ng Pilipinas, matagal na dapat ginagawa yan, ewan ko lang tama ito diba before may plano ang gobyerno na bumili ng submarine at air craft carrierm during Ramos or Arroyo Administration yata eto!
  • baldo!baldo! PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    masasabi rin na luxury sa isang bansa ang magkaroon ng mga ganyan :glee:

    at saka karamihan ng pinoy gusto ng nahahawakan at nararanasan agad ang fruit of labor. eh kung nakadisplay lang ang mga kanyon at eroplano natin pandigma, baka ipakilo yan :lol: dahil di naman raw napapakinabangan.

    at sa palabas sa tv at sinehan, alam na kung saan nageexcel karamihan ng pinoy :lol: iyakan, lokohan, at tawanan lang - entertainment.
  • ka_denizka_deniz PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    art727 wrote: »
    Ang training ng pinoy ay kulang puro gaya sa mga pelikulang Hollywood militar ng kano na sa totoo ay hindi nangyayari sa tunay na buhay.. Kapag nagpunta ka sa pagsasanay ng sundalong pinoy? Aakalain mong nasa gymnasium ka! Dahil parang Triathlon athlete ang mga kasangkapan! ZIP LINE? Wall Climbing? Walang hand to hand combat training.firefighting at sea/air activities pagtalon sa mga helicopter (Air Commandos)anong training sumailalim ang mga SAF? Bago ipinadala sa Mindanao.? Aber?

    Kailangang magtraining sila sa gubat tulad ng Jungle Warfare ng sa ganon ay magkaroon ng kakayahang lumaban sa mga kasuluksulukan ng gubat at tiyak magkakaroon ng magandang laban ang mga sundalo sa NPA at Abu Sayaff na mas mahusay sa guerilla warfare.kesa AFP.
    Matanong ko lang ano ba ang mga pambihirang talento ng SAF?lahat ba sa kanila ay magagaling lumangoy at certified scuba diver? Sharpshooter? Marksman? O magagaling sa pagdukot at may SWAT (Special Weapons And Tactics) experience? Puwes! Kung meron silang katangiang ganito? Walang bisnis na pamunuan ni Purisima ang SAF dahil mismo si mr. Purisima ay kulang ang pangangatawan na maging SAF..

    Obviously youare not familiar with the words pikiti, swag, tabak, subic, sangley, blackwater, musang or if you are, you dont know their relevance in the philippines.
  • ka_denizka_deniz PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Meanie!! wrote: »
    inb4 peftok

    Anyway, May mga nameet akong amerkano sabi nila mga scout ranger daw natin among the best and respected, especially yung tracking skills daw sa atin sila nagpapatur0. Dont know if its true though. Maybe someone can shed light on this.

    I agree though na experience wise, di na rin papahuli ang pilipinas; siguro mid-tier narin kung dyan babasihen.


    Yup. That's true. when the americans still had clarck and subic, part of the navy seal's advanced training were conducted by the esteemed tabak division.
  • Vit@min_C[email protected]_C PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    pati schools, hindi narin nag ooffer ng ROTC, more of community service at literacy training nalang.

    *majority
  • NilsNils PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    pati schools, hindi narin nag ooffer ng ROTC, more of community service at literacy training nalang.

    *majority

    Blame that on peaceniks... Dahil sa argument against violence, yung responsibility to defend one's country in time of need hindi na nabibigyan ng halaga.
  • guantanamero99guantanamero99 PEx Rookie ⭐
    Does it matter? Chinese takeover? They're already here.
  • C.I.C.C.IC.I.C.C.I PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    jeganrr wrote: »
    Because according to history we were conquered and colonized by Spain by more than 300 years.We beat Spain after that but by the help of the Americans. Americans defeated us and the Japanese defeated us. In you opinion bakit mahina sa military warfare ang Philippines?

    my law professor once said

    The Philippines has a navy , Air Force but no ships or planes or decent ones working :lol:
  • wanderer12wanderer12 PEx Rookie ⭐
    Tama nga poor leadership at kakulangan sa gamit with corruption pa.

    Nga pala, anu nangyari dun sa inorder daw na jets from Korea? diba expected daw na last year pa dadating first set nun? Parang wala pa dumadating. Yun na sana ang muling pagkakaron natin ng supersonic fighters.

    Mukang nacancel nanaman ah tsk tsk tsk.
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