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Pope begs victims for forgiveness for crimes of ‘sacrilegious cult’ behind sex abuse


Pope Francis begged forgiveness Monday from the victims of clergy sex abuse as he held his first meeting with several abuse survivors — but another victim called the gathering nothing more than “a PR event.”

The Vatican quoted Francis as expressing personal “sorrow” in his homily at a private Mass with six victims for the “sins and grave crimes” of clerical sex abuse against them.

Francis compared the crimes to those of a “sacrilegious cult” and pledged “not to tolerate harm done to a minor by any individual, whether a cleric or not,” and promised that bishops “will be held accountable.”

“I beg your forgiveness, too, for the sins of omission on the part of Church leaders who did not respond adequately to reports of abuse made by family members, as well as by abuse victims themselves,” the pope said.

“This led to even greater suffering on the part of those who were abused and it endangered other minors who were at risk,” the pope said, according to the English translation of his homily, which was delivered in Spanish.
Francis noted the abuse caused some victims to resort to addictions, or even suicide.


Vatican cannot keep thousands of *****/abuse cases brought in by clergy anymore - Pope's solution: Say "Sorry!!!" :rotflmao:


  • I'm not surprised.

    Sorry? Is all that you could say? Years gone by and still words don't come easily. Malamang ang reply nito, Manalo, Manalo, Manalo! Wala ng iba pa :rolleyes:
  • TLG
    TLG The Dark Knight
    Neil1984 wrote: »
    Sorry? Is all that you could say?

    Ayaw mo ng sorry?
  • Here's another statement from the former Pope Benedict:

    Pope says: "Pedophilia has undermined the credibility of the church"

    Benedict's message to the International Eucharistic Congress in Dublin. The abuse of young people by priests and religious "remains a mystery"


    As widely expected, Pope Benedict addressed the crime and scandal of the abuse of children and young people by priests and religious in Ireland over the past half-century, in a video-recorded message at the closing celebration of the 50th International Eucharistic Congress (IEC) in Dublin on June 17.

    He recalled how the Irish Church “has been a mighty force for good in the world” over many centuries, but said that “great history of faith and love” has been “shaken in an appalling way” in recent times “by the revelation of sins committed by priests and consecrated persons against people entrusted to their care.”

    “Instead of showing them the path towards Christ, towards God, instead of bearing witness to his goodness, they abused people and undermined the credibility of the Church’s message”, he stated.

    “It remains a mystery”, he said, how priests and religious who celebrated the Eucharist and/or received the sacraments daily could have done all this, but he stopped short of calling it “the mystery of evil”. Instead, he attributed it to the fact that for these abusers Christianity “was no longer nourished by the joyful encounter with Jesus Christ” but had become “merely a matter of habit”.

    He said the Second Vatican Council “was really meant to overcome this form of Christianity” and “to rediscover the faith as a deep personal friendship with the goodness of Jesus Christ” who “is present in the Eucharist”. The IEC has a similar aim he said, and – later in his speech - announced that the next one would be held in the Philippines, 2016.

    In his Letter to Catholics in Ireland, March 2010, Pope Benedict had expressed his profound sorrow at the abuse done to the victims, and asked their forgiveness. He said nothing like this in his Congress message, perhaps because he felt he said it all in that letter and, moreover, his delegate had said it earlier that week when he met the victims on his behalf.

    Pope Benedict, instead, devoted much of his speech to the liturgy, its renewal after Vatican II and consequent deviations, and the central place of the Eucharist in the life of the Church in Ireland and elsewhere.

    “Ireland has been shaped by the Mass at the deepest level for centuries, and by its power and grace generations of monks, martyrs and missionaries have heroically lived the faith at home and spread the Good News of God’s love and forgiveness well beyond your shores”, he recalled.

    “You are the heirs to a Church that has been a mighty force for good in the world, and which has given a profound and enduring love of Christ and his blessed Mother to many, many others”, he told the thousands gathered in Dublin’s Croke Park sports’ stadium, and the vastly greater Irish audience watching on TV.

    As he finished speaking, the 70,000 people in the stadium, including 7,000 pilgrims from 120 other countries and 1000 bishops and priests from many lands, stood and applauded.

    The Pope spoke at the end of the Mass. Earlier, the closing ceremony had begun with personal testimonies of faith, hymns and music. Irish star soprano, Celine Byrne, set all hearts on fire with her rendering of the “Ave Maria” and of the stirring hymn, “How Great thou art!”

    Everyone applauded when the TV anchor announced that 177 elderly people who had attended the 1932 Congress in Dublin were also present today. Scenes from that first IEC were then shown on the mega-screens in the stadium and on TV.

    Cardinal Ouellet concelebrated the Eucharist with five other cardinals – Brady (Ireland), O´Brien (Scotland), Rodriguez Maradiaga (Honduras) Zen ( China), and Napier-Fox (South Africa)), and with the IEC president -Archbishop Piero Marini, and Dublin’s Archbishop Diarmuid Martin.

    In his homily, the cardinal greeted Ireland’s President, Michael D. Higgins, and other civic authorities present, including the Taoiseach (Prime Minister), Enda Kenny and Northern Ireland’s First Minister, Martin McGuinness.

    “Faith is the most precious gift we have received with Baptism. Let’s not keep it private and fearful! Let it grow as a splendid tree through sharing everywhere!” Cardinal Ouellet told the people.

    “Even if we are sometimes tested in our faith”, he added, “do not be afraid, and remember who we are: the body of Christ intent on loving God over and above all things”.

    Dublin’s Archbishop Martin, the host of this highly successful event, was the last to speak. Over the past eight days, he said, “The Eucharist has awakened in our hearts something which went way beyond our plans and expectations”. It revealed “a great “thirst” among Irish Catholics “to deepen”their understanding of the faith, and a great need for a “new evangelization” in the country, and the building of “a Church of communion and service after the model of Jesus Christ”.
    At the opening ceremony he had remembered the victims, and he reserved his final words for them too before the Congress concluded with the singing of the rousing hymn, “Glory, Glory, Alleluia!”

    SO...HINDI NILA MA-EXPLAIN KUNG BAKIT NANGYAYARI ITO ... that thousands of priests have committed rapes and pedophile acts on thousands (maybe millions) of church members throughout the years! ??? :rotflmao:

  • Pope Francis has been in office for just over two months and has been making headlines for many remarks that emphasize inclusiveness, contrasting sharply with his predecessors' style and apparently even with centuries-old Catholic dogma.

    The latest was a statement last week that all human beings, even atheists, can be redeemed.


    What does the Catholic Doctrine say about Atheism?


    ALL OF A SUDDEN ... Here comes Pope Francis saying, "Atheists can do good and go to heaven too!"

    FOR REAL???? Does the Pope READ the bible?

    Can Atheists or unbelievers be saved?

    Let's see what the bible says:

    2 Thessalonians 1:8
    New International Version
    He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.

    John 3:17"For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him. 18"He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

    Revelation 21:8
    New International Version
    But the cowardly, the UNBELIEVING, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

    Can Atheists or Unbelievers DO GOOD?

    2 Corinthians 4:4
    New Living Translation
    Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don't believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don't understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.

    2 Corinthians 6:14 (CEV)
    14 Stay away from people who are not followers of the Lord! Can someone who is good get along with someone who is evil? Are light and darkness the same?

    Psalm 14:1
    1For the choir director. A Psalm of David. The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, they have committed abominable deeds; There is no one who does good.

    CONCLUSION: Unbelievers or Atheist can not do good in the eyes of God and therefore cannot be saved (or "go to heaven").

    For more interesting discussion on this matter, watch: http://incmedia.org/content/pope-says-atheists-redeemed/
  • ElCid
    ElCid Roman Catholic
    ^ Palakpakan niyo naman yung TS. Imagine hijackin yung sarili niyang thread? :rotflmao:

    Kaya di kayo manalo sa issues kalat ang utak niyo so recycle na lang mga dating issues. :rotflmao:
  • TLG
    TLG The Dark Knight
    zapebayota / tokay / boborat altnick.....
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