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Bangsamoro Basic Law

CodeXplorerCodeXplorer Member PEx Rookie ⭐
Di ako sure kung dito ba dapat ipost to. hehe

Mainit ngayon ang usapin tungkol sa BBL maraming kontra habang ang gobyerno at ilan naman ay panig dito.

Pero ano po ba talaga tong BBL na to?
Anyone here knows and can explain it in layman's term?
Para na rin sa kaalaman ng iba nang hindi lang comment ng comment tapos di naman pala talaga alam kung anong meron sa bbl na yan.

Salamat po!
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  • wala na purnada na yang Bbl. Sila rin naman kasi ang sumisira ng mga aopagkasunduan.

    Sa bbl hindi masama na mag kopkop ng internationa terorist. Yung ang mabuti sa kanila wala magagawa ang gobyerno dyan kundi ang giyerahin nalang
  • Correct me if I'm wrong, this is govt within a govt, tama ba?
  • TokayTokay Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Ang masasabi ko lang YES TO BBL BUT NO TO MILF!!!

    Ang aking kaibigan na si PO1 Joseph Sagonoy, ang pinakabata sa 55th SAC...ay isa sa napatay sa engkuwentro na iyan..

    https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=552831958153499&pnref=story

    Kung ako lang ang masusunod ito ang batas na susundin ko kahit hindi ito ang doktrina ng Iglesia ni Cristo.

    Hayop na iyan.

    Levitico 24:1-21
    "Ang makapinsala sa kapwa ay pipinsalain din, tulad ng kanyang ginawa. 20 Baling buto sa baling buto, mata sa mata, ngipin sa ngipin. Kung ano ang ginawa niya, gayundin ang gagawin sa kanya. 21 Ang makapatay ng hayop ng kanyang kapwa ay kinakailangang magbabayad ng hayop din, ngunit ang pumatay ng kapwa tao ay dapat patayin din.
  • gotta lick itgotta lick it Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    WTF ..... meron nga ARMM para sa mga muslim. if they want more, the MILF should have asked for another plebiscite and expand the ARMM.





    but they cant do it because the area they want to own is already owned by christians.

    NO to Bangsamoro Basic Law!!!!
  • SirZapSirZap Storm Trooper PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    pera-pera lang yan. yungARMM binigyan ng Bilyones... nasan na? ganyan din mangayayri nyan
  • gotta lick itgotta lick it Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    you cant expect bandits to become public servants just because you gave them autonomy and billions of pesos.

    they will live like warlords rolling on money.





    NO to Bangsamoro Basic Law!!!!
  • TLGTLG The Dark Knight PExer
    Correct me if am wrong, but I read in Lafi that in the proposed BBL law, that if more than 10% of the constituents of any part of mindanao (or phillippines?) voted to be part of BBL, then a review will be applied and an election will be conducted, and if the turn out exceeds more than 50% of a particular province (or town?), then it will be part of the BBL.

    Tama ba to???
  • hooneyhooney United 'till i die PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    wala pa nga BBL mayayabang na at akala mo kung sino what more kung binigyan na ng power, hindi marunong makipag compromise
  • gotta lick itgotta lick it Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    the Congress blocked to essential secession factors of the f*cking BBL. the MILF wants to have their own POLICE and MILITARY force.

    and, the MILF is just says they want a region under the Sharia Law but the truth is the MILF wants to secede from the Philippines.

    what is the Muslim Police and Army for???





    kitams ..... NO to the Bangsamoro Basic Law!!!!
  • ObjectionObjection Too much winning PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Sa mga tatakbo for President, Vice and Senator

    May claro na ba kung sino support at sino ayaw sa BBL?
  • gotta lick itgotta lick it Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    ehem ...... just follow the bread crumb trail.

    BBL lobbying in full gear;
    Moro demanded that no alteration be done with the original BBL bill;
    MILF + MNLF joining together; and
    mayor climaco was recently assassinated





    whats next? moro running for the top LGU position which will start the great BBL purging of majority christians in mindanao by the minority muslims?
  • EgozumEgozum Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐

    MANILA, Philippines (UPDATED) – Tensions flared as senators and representatives deliberated on the final version of the proposed Bangsamoro Basic Law (BBL) two weeks before President Rodrigo Duterte was expected to sign the measure.

    The bicameral conference committee began on Monday, July 9, and is expected to be finished by Friday, July 13. But two days in, lawmakers have yet to agree on the most crucial issue: territorial jurisdiction and plebiscite.

    With a landmark legislation expected to end the years-long struggle in Mindanao, it was no surprise that discussions in just two days were marked by tension, and heightened passion and emotions.

    On Tuesday, July 10, a visibly tired Senate Majority Leader Juan Miguel Zubiri faced the media around 9 pm. The bicam had been working from 9 am to past 11 pm for the past two days.

    Naku initan – nagkakainitan kanina amongst the panels: the House members, even the Senate, even pati ako I got frustrated with some of our panel members mostly. Medyo mainit sa loob pagdating sa diskusyon ng mga provisions ng Bangsamoro Basic Law," Zubiri said.

    (Things are heating up. There are heated debates amongst the panels: the House members, even the Senate, even I got frustrated with some of our panel members mostly. It's a heated discussion on the provisions of the Bangsamoro Basic Law).

    "Again, as I said, any decision we make here, lives could be at stake. The peace process could be at stake. This is no laughing matter,” he added.

    Turning serious and at one point teary-eyed, Zubiri went on to say it was the most difficult piece of legislation he had ever handled in his 16 years in Congress.

    “The pressure is on….May anti-BBL sa panel, may pro-BBL katulad namin…. mahirap (There are anti-BBL lawmakers in the panel, pro-BBL like us. It's difficult). That's why if you can see, I’m very stressed,” said Zubiri, who hails from Mindanao.

    To say that deliberations in the bicam is difficult is an understatement. Isabela 1st District Representative Rodolfo Albano III voiced this sentiment out loud. While walking the wide halls of a Pasig hotel, he was heard repeatedly saying – loud enough for everyone to take notice – that he was having a headache, and that the BBL bicam was the “most difficult” bicam he had ever attended.

    Mohagher Iqbal, Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) chief negotiator and chair of the Bangsamoro Transition Commission, confirmed there were indeed passionate debates and raised voices.

    “As to whether there are some high tensions, that's part of the process. That's normal among them. Maybe sa atin na hindi legislators, ang tingin natin medyo unusual (Maybe for us who are not legislators, we find it unusual). Sa kanila (But to them), that's ordinary, normal to them. That's how I see it,” Iqbal said, as he remained positive that the final outcome would hew closely to the BTC version.

    Raised voices, intense debates

    On the first night of discussions, several sources inside the closed-door hall said there was a heated argument on the issue of Bangsamoro waters between Zamboanga City 1st District Representative Celso Lobregat, who is anti-BBL; and Maguindanao 1st District Representative Bai Sandra Sema and Tawi-Tawi Representative Ruby Sahali.

    The House and Senate versions have provisions granting jurisdiction over Bangsamoro waters, which include the Sulu Sea and the Moro Gulf.

    Lobregat strongly opposed this, saying there are many non-Bangsamoro areas whose coastlines form part of the Sulu Sea and the Moro Gulf. Lobregat proposed that only intra-regional transport routes should be covered and not the entire waters.

    Sahali argued that the people of Sulu, Basilan, and Tawi-Tawi travel frequently to Zamboanga City. Lobregat said in reply that it was already an inter-regional route and not just within Bangsamoro. Sema supported Sahali.

    In the end, the bicam decided to shelve the issue for a later discussion.

    On Tuesday afternoon, there was a long discussion on the number of members of the Bangsamoro Parliament.

    Under the Senate version, the parliament will have 80 members unless the latter sets another fixed number. The House, meanwhile, wants at least 80 members.

    In the subgroups – mechanisms to expedite the deliberation process – members, including Senator Francis Escudero, changed the provision to say “at least 80 members or a number to be fixed by Congress" instead of parliament.

    Sahali and Sema reportedly did not take this sitting down and motioned for the adoption of the House version.

    The session was briefly suspended to settle the issue. In the end, lawmakers agreed to drop “at least,” setting the number of members to 80, unless increased by Congress.

    Zubiri told reporters this was done to ensure that the Bangsamoro Parliament would not reach 300 or more members. The parliament would be composed of 50% party representatives, 40% district representatives, and 10% sectoral representatives.

    Fariñas, the intervener

    On Tuesday night, Lobregat, Sahali, and Sema had a heated exchange on the use of the term “settlers” to refer to non-Moro and non-indigenous people residing in the Bangsamoro region.

    Lobregat told reporters he pushed to change “settlers” to “non-Moro.”
    Sahali and Sema argued that the term is used in history and that there is “no derogatory meaning there.”

    Passions flared during the debate, reportedly prompting House Majority Leader Rodolfo Fariñas to step in. In the end, Lobregat said he gave in to what the two wanted.

    Sabi nila historical fact. In the end, sige, kung ayaw 'nyo, 'di wag (They said it's a historical fact. In the end, I told them, fine, if you don't want to change it, then don't),” Lobregat said.

    It turns out that in the middle of arguments, Fariñas would act as the mediator. Zubiri said Fariñas’ non-Mindanaoan status helped in easing tensions.

    “I thank [Majority Leader] Fariñas, talagang magnanimous, nakikita niya as outsider (he's really magnanimous and he sees things as an outsider) and he’s able to temper expectations, temper also our passions, and able to keep the situation under control,” Zubiri said.

    Can Duterte work his magic on territory, plebiscite?

    With no agreement on the territorial jurisdiction and plebiscite in sight, it would not be surprising if louder voices would be heard in the bicam halls in the coming days.

    The two issues are so contentious that the panel even had to seek President Rodrigo Duterte’s help to break the impasse.

    They could not agree among themselves on the inclusion of 6 towns in Lanao del Norte and 39 barangays in North Cotabato in the Bangsamoro region. District representatives are strongly opposed to it.

    "It will involve some political decisions and the President being the highest political officer would have to decide, if there is a deadlock on this issue and politically, since he is the President, he may have to make a political decision to resolve the deadlock," Senate Minority Leader Franklin Drilon said on Wednesday, July 11when asked why the panel sought Duterte's guidance.

    Zubiri said the issue is "personal" to district representatives, as they are worried they would lose territory.

    Among the members of the bicam against it are Lanao del Norte 1st District Representative Mohamad Dimaporo and Lanao del Norte 2nd District Representative Abdullah Dimaporo.

    It’s an uphill battle because the issue has no middle ground.

    May uuwing luhaan on this issue (Someone would go home in tears on the issue). It’s just managing the outcome,” Zubiri admitted.

    Under the Senate and House versions, 6 Lanao del Norte towns and 39 North Cotabato barangays (villages) shall vote on whether or not they want to be included in the proposed Bangsamoro state.

    The two versions, however, differ on the mode of plebiscite. In the Senate version, they will be automatically included in the Bangsamoro once their residents vote in favor of inclusion.

    The House version wants the mother units of the said areas to decide on their fate. In the case of the 6 towns of Lanao del Norte, the whole province must vote whether or not they want the towns out of their jurisdiction. For the 39 barangays, the municipalities they belong to have the final say on their fate.

    Residents of these areas had twice voted for their inclusion in the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao, which the proposed BBL seeks to replace. But because of the double layer of voting needed, they have not succeeded.

    Zubiri said if the Bangsamoro people's wish would not be granted, it could lead to another problem: the breakdown of peace talks.

    "Kasi may (You see, there are) possible scenarios and outcomes. It could cause problems if we do not address it carefully. Security issues, yeah. We do not want to make our partners walk away from the table in the peace talks. We do not want that to happen. It's quite a sensitive issue," he said.

    Iqbal, for his part, refused to discuss such topics while the BBL negotiations are ongoing.

    With this deadlock on a crucial matter, all eyes are now on Duterte to see if he indeed could work his magic. After all, the BBL could be one of the shining moments of his 3rd State of the Nation Address, and his administration, for that matter.
  • EgozumEgozum Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐

    Duterte to sign BBL before SONA


    MANILA- President Rodrigo Duterte will sign the proposed Bangsamoro Basic Law (BBL) before he delivers his third State of the Nation Address (SONA) later this month, Malacañang said Wednesday.

    Presidential Spokesperson Harry Roque said Duterte has convinced the two chambers of Congress to adopt the House of Representatives' version of the bill.

    Both houses of Congress approved in May their respective versions of the proposed BBL after Duterte certified the bill as urgent.

    The said version provides that the six municipalities of Lanao Del Norte and 39 barangays of North Cotabato could vote to join the BBL territory in a referendum to be conducted on the mother territory of the areas involved, Roque said.

    "With the President’s intervention citing constitutional provisions and the decision of the Supreme Court in the case of Umali, the passage of the BBL has been assured," he said in a statement.

    The BBL, enabling law of the 2014 peace deal between the government and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front, will install a Bangsamoro political entity in place of the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao (ARMM). 

    It is envisioned to grant wider self-rule to predominantly Muslim provinces and cities.

    Duterte is banking on the bill's passage to heal "historical injustices" suffered by the Moros.

    The bill failed to pass under the previous administration as some provisions faced questions on constitutionality.



  • KidlatNgayonKidlatNgayon Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Tokay said:
    Ang masasabi ko lang YES TO BBL BUT NO TO MILF!!!

    Ang aking kaibigan na si PO1 Joseph Sagonoy, ang pinakabata sa 55th SAC...ay isa sa napatay sa engkuwentro na iyan..

    https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=552831958153499&pnref=story

    Kung ako lang ang masusunod ito ang batas na susundin ko kahit hindi ito ang doktrina ng Iglesia ni Cristo.

    Hayop na iyan.

    Levitico 24:1-21
    "Ang makapinsala sa kapwa ay pipinsalain din, tulad ng kanyang ginawa. 20 Baling buto sa baling buto, mata sa mata, ngipin sa ngipin. Kung ano ang ginawa niya, gayundin ang gagawin sa kanya. 21 Ang makapatay ng hayop ng kanyang kapwa ay kinakailangang magbabayad ng hayop din, ngunit ang pumatay ng kapwa tao ay dapat patayin din.
    Condolence Bro. Tokay! It is sad to lose a friend that way! :(
  • KidlatNgayonKidlatNgayon Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Ang BBL ay pagbibigay autonomy o freedom sa mga Muslim sa Mindanao na magkaroon ng sarili nilang gobyerno. Para sa akin, mas mabuti na yan kesa nakahalo sila sa batas na nagpapalakad sa pamumuhay ng mga Cristiano. Siguro pag hindi sila pinakialaman ng mga Cristiano ay hindi rin sila makikialam kaya bawas-gulo, bawas-patayan.
  • gotta lick itgotta lick it Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    nilipat yun thread from LaFI.



    we do not need the BBL because Federalism will give them an equal footing within their area. ang problema ay minority na ang Muslim kahit sa Mindanao.
  • EgozumEgozum Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐

    At least 19 killed, dozens hurt in Jolo cathedral blasts —PNP

    Published January 27, 2019 10:28am 
    Updated January 27, 2019 4:45pm




    After earlier reports that the number of casualties of the twin blasts that rocked the Mount Carmel Cathedral in the town of Jolo in Sulu province on Sunday morning had gone up to 27 dead and 77 wounded, the police has revised the number of those killed to at least 19 as of 2 p.m.

    Police Regional Office-ARMM head Superintendent Graciano Mijares, who earlier told Super Radyo dzBB in an update report that the number of casualties has gone up to 104, with 27 dead, corrected the number of killed to 20.

    PNP Public Information Office acting chief Senior Superintendent Bernard Banac, meanwhile, put the number of dead at 19 as of 2 p.m.

    Photo by Ian Cruz
    Photo by Ian Cruz

    The dead included soldiers and civilians, mostly churchgoers. Most of the wounded were civilians, but also included some soldiers and at least two police officers.

    In an earlier interview on dzBB by Benjie Liwanag, Philippine National Police chief Director General Oscar Albayalde said that as of 10 a.m. 19 were reported killed (mostly soldiers) and 48 others were wounded in the twin blasts—one explosive went off inside the cathedral and the other outside, in the parking area.

    Much earlier, Western Mindanao Command Spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Gerry Besana told dzBB that the two explosions occurred at about 8:30 a.m. while a Sunday Mass was ongoing.


    View image on Twitter

    Simbahan sa Jolo, Sulu, binulabog ng pagsabog kaninang umaga, ayon sa AFP. | via @JonathanAndal_


    An investigation is ongoing on the incident, Albayalde added.

    The twin blasts took place a week after the conduct of the plebiscite on the Bangsamoro Basic Law, which has been deemed ratified by the Commission on Elections.

    Majority of the people of Sulu voted against the BOL, which is envisioned to replace the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao. 

  • gotta lick itgotta lick it Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Egozum said:

    At least 19 killed, dozens hurt in Jolo cathedral blasts —PNP

    Published January 27, 2019 10:28am 
    Updated January 27, 2019 4:45pm




    After earlier reports that the number of casualties of the twin blasts that rocked the Mount Carmel Cathedral in the town of Jolo in Sulu province on Sunday morning had gone up to 27 dead and 77 wounded, the police has revised the number of those killed to at least 19 as of 2 p.m.

    Police Regional Office-ARMM head Superintendent Graciano Mijares, who earlier told Super Radyo dzBB in an update report that the number of casualties has gone up to 104, with 27 dead, corrected the number of killed to 20.

    PNP Public Information Office acting chief Senior Superintendent Bernard Banac, meanwhile, put the number of dead at 19 as of 2 p.m.

    Photo by Ian Cruz
    Photo by Ian Cruz

    The dead included soldiers and civilians, mostly churchgoers. Most of the wounded were civilians, but also included some soldiers and at least two police officers.

    In an earlier interview on dzBB by Benjie Liwanag, Philippine National Police chief Director General Oscar Albayalde said that as of 10 a.m. 19 were reported killed (mostly soldiers) and 48 others were wounded in the twin blasts—one explosive went off inside the cathedral and the other outside, in the parking area.

    Much earlier, Western Mindanao Command Spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Gerry Besana told dzBB that the two explosions occurred at about 8:30 a.m. while a Sunday Mass was ongoing.


    View image on Twitter

    Simbahan sa Jolo, Sulu, binulabog ng pagsabog kaninang umaga, ayon sa AFP. | via @JonathanAndal_


    An investigation is ongoing on the incident, Albayalde added.

    The twin blasts took place a week after the conduct of the plebiscite on the Bangsamoro Basic Law, which has been deemed ratified by the Commission on Elections.

    Majority of the people of Sulu voted against the BOL, which is envisioned to replace the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao. 

    Allah Akbar!! Allah Akbar!!!! Allah Akbar!!!!!! Allah Akbar!!!!!!!!!!!
  • gotta lick itgotta lick it Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    tsk tsk ....

    Sulu  - NO (Jan.21)
    North Cotabato - NO (Feb.6)
    Lanao del Norte - NO (Feb.6)


    the Bangsamoro Autonomous Region will fail. SAAN kaya MAGPAPASABOG ang mga MILF dahil dito???
  • EgozumEgozum Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐

    Commander Bravo itinalaga sa Bangsamoro Transition Authority para sa kapayapaan

    Feb. 23, 2019 at 10:24am


    Dinipensahan ni Pangulong Rodrigo Duterte ang pagtatalaga niya kay Commander Bravo bilang isa sa mga itinalagang interim officials ng Bangsamoro Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao o BARMM.

    Matatandaan na inanunsiyo kahapon ni Pangulong Duterte na itinalaga niya si Moro Islamic Liberation Fron o MILF Chairman Al Haj Murad Ibrahim bilang interim Chief Minister ng BARMM at sinabi ng Pangulo na kumpleto na ang 80 miyembro ng Bangsamoro Transition Authority at kabilang dito si Commander Bravo.

    Ayon kay Pangulong Duterte, si Bravo ay isang revolutionary leader at malaki na ang tiniis at sinakripisyo nito sa ngalan ng kapayapaan sa Mindanao tulad ng mga sundalo at ng mga pulis.

    Sinabi pa ng Pangulo na itinalaga niya si Bravo para sa tunay na kapayapaan.

    Matatandaan na si Commander Bravo o Abdulla Macapaar ang nanguna sa pagsalakay sa North Cotabato at sa Lanao del Norte noong 2008 natapos hindi katigan ng Korte Suprema ang pagkakaroon ng Moro Sub-state sa Mindanao.

    Tiniyak din naman ni Pangulong Duterte sa mga taga Bangsamoro na buong suporta ang ibibigay ng kanyang administrasyon sa rehiyon upang maging matagumpay ang rehiyon at makamit na talaga ang tunay at pangmatagalang kapayapaan sa lugar.





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