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Is defrocking enough punishment for Child Molesting Priest?

Roborat9
Roborat9 Member
in Realm of Thought #1
i want to know the position of the RCC members here dahil child molestation is a very grave offense that can be done to a human being. So I want to know if the RCC members here agree with the vatican that defrocking is an enough punishment for these molestors??


http://www.dallasnews.com/news/local-news/20140506-vatican-says-it-s-punished-over-3400-priests-since-04-for-raping-or-molesting-children.ece

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  • cretinous00
    cretinous00 The sea! The sea!
    #2
    he should be tortured to death with steel pipes, piano wire, and a blow torch at the basement of his parish church, and then thrown into the pasig river.
  • Roborat9
    Roborat9 Member
    #3
    cretinous00 wrote: »
    he should be tortured to death with steel pipes, piano wire, and a blow torch at the basement of his parish church, and then thrown into the pasig river.

    Kahit buwiset ka minsan I cant help to agree with you on this.....PEACE!!! :)
  • ElCid
    ElCid Roman Catholic
    #4
    This is actually a stup!d question as if the church can mete out harsher penalties more than defrocking since it is the state that is responsible for punishing individuals who commit crimes against individuals.
  • Roborat9
    Roborat9 Member
    #5
    The question is defrocking enough punishment??...As far as I understand a defrocked priest only removes his clerical right but he is still a priest?...Am i Wrong??

    Again on this basis 3400 child molesting priest with an average of 6 molested children these comes up to 20400 children in total..These are only the sentenced priest there are still more being process so I dont know how this could have happened but It did....
  • TLG
    TLG The Dark Knight
    #6
    Roborat9 wrote: »
    Kahit buwiset ka minsan I cant help to agree with you on this.....PEACE!!! :)

    :glee: the brainwashed does not know what is he agreeing about :glee:
  • gotta lick it
    gotta lick it Member
    #7
    a criminal action of the church maybe applied if the child molestation occured inside the vatican.

    but there are no minors at the vatican.





    the church and state are separate. the only thing the church can do is defrock its clergy and help the state prosecute the criminal.
  • TLG
    TLG The Dark Knight
    #8
    Roborat9 wrote: »
    The question is defrocking enough punishment??...As far as I understand a defrocked priest only removes his clerical right but he is still a priest?...Am i Wrong??

    Again on this basis 3400 child molesting priest with an average of 6 molested children these comes up to 20400 children in total..These are only the sentenced priest there are still more being process so I dont know how this could have happened but It did....

    Before starting a post, first thing you should do is use your brain and think what will you INC do when given the same situtation! Ako na nga sasagot kasi as usual you are too stupid to make educated conclusions, laging bias mga conclusion mo eh...

    If an INC minister molested/*****/harass someone, then the most that the INC central admin can do is strip that guy from being a minister, the ones who can prosecute him is the state on which he committed the crime and not the church... get it boborat?

    And also..yung in-agreehan mo kay cretinous, it shows how barbaric you are and if you don't know, that was a news about the INC:lol: Ginawa yan ng INC and you suprisingly agreed to cretin... utak barbaro ba talaga ang INC?
  • Roborat9
    Roborat9 Member
    #9
    TLG wrote: »
    Before starting a post, first thing you should do is use your brain and think what will you INC do when given the same situtation! Ako na nga sasagot kasi as usual you are too stupid to make educated conclusions, laging bias mga conclusion mo eh...

    If an INC minister molested/*****/harass someone, then the most that the INC central admin can do is strip that guy from being a minister, the ones who can prosecute him is the state on which he committed the crime and not the church... get it boborat?

    And also..yung in-agreehan mo kay cretinous, it shows how barbaric you are and if you don't know, that was a news about the INC:lol: Ginawa yan ng INC and you suprisingly agreed to cretin... utak barbaro ba talaga ang INC?

    The question hindi mo din ata naintindihan..are they still a priest or not? Dahil as far as I understood the stand of the vatican dogma. A priest will always be a priest no matter what happens in his life. So he is only strip of clerical obligations but he is still a priest. That priest abroad na nandito sa pinas ngayon yung nangongolekta ng ivory images di ba pinalayas yan sa US dahil sexual abuse case sa kanya pero you see that priest here in pinas living the life still of a priest. Was he punish severely for his action why is the church still cajoling that priest??
  • gotta lick it
    gotta lick it Member
    #10
    hmmmm ...... TS is suggesting that the RCC should follow the INC way. itiwalag at maghugas kamay sa mga kasalanan ng kanila kapatid.






    under the law of the land, ".... innocent until proven guilty." it is the responsibility of the state to prosecute and the church should only suspend until the accused is proven guilty. once proven guilty, the church can laicize the criminal priest.
  • TLG
    TLG The Dark Knight
    #11
    Roborat9 wrote: »
    The question hindi mo din ata naintindihan..are they still a priest or not? Dahil as far as I understood the stand of the vatican dogma. A priest will always be a priest no matter what happens in his life. So he is only strip of clerical obligations but he is still a priest.
    Don't be stupid boborat.. use your brain, can a priest strip of his right to ordained a ministry do something? Yung mga tanong mo is pawang mga kabobohan eh...

    Roborat9 wrote: »
    That priest abroad na nandito sa pinas ngayon yung nangongolekta ng ivory images di ba pinalayas yan sa US dahil sexual abuse case sa kanya pero you see that priest here in pinas living the life still of a priest. Was he punish severely for his action why is the church still cajoling that priest??
    May link ka? wala akong alam diyan.
  • Roborat9
    Roborat9 Member
    #12
    TLG wrote: »
    Don't be stupid boborat.. use your brain, can a priest strip of his right to ordained a ministry do something? Yung mga tanong mo is pawang mga kabobohan eh...



    May link ka? wala akong alam diyan.

    http://www.rappler.com/nation/13202-cebu-priest-probed-over-child-abuse-after-ivory-trade

    http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/275730/news/regions/cbcp-priest-in-ivory-smuggling-mess-deserves-a-fair-and-just-hearing

    He is being cajoled and protected by his colleague in CEBU as stated on this statement..

    Since publication of my story, Blood Ivory: Ivory Worship Catholic Church leaders in Cebu have called me a liar and have suggested I be declared persona non grata for exposing Msgr. Cristobal Garcia’s past and his encouragement of smuggling by those who want ivory religious icons.

    http://bryanchristy.com/secret-file-ivory-collector-priest/

    He was allowed to return to the philippines for therapy....Sheesshhhh

    http://www.dailynews.com/general-news/20130126/father-cristobal-garcia-priest-fled-to-the-philippines-and-rose-in-the-church
  • TLG
    TLG The Dark Knight
    #13
    Roborat9 wrote: »
    http://www.rappler.com/nation/13202-cebu-priest-probed-over-child-abuse-after-ivory-trade

    http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/275730/news/regions/cbcp-priest-in-ivory-smuggling-mess-deserves-a-fair-and-just-hearing

    He is being cajoled and protected by his colleague in CEBU as stated on this statement..

    Since publication of my story, Blood Ivory: Ivory Worship Catholic Church leaders in Cebu have called me a liar and have suggested I be declared persona non grata for exposing Msgr. Cristobal Garcia’s past and his encouragement of smuggling by those who want ivory religious icons.

    http://bryanchristy.com/secret-file-ivory-collector-priest/

    He was allowed to return to the philippines for therapy....Sheesshhhh

    http://www.dailynews.com/general-news/20130126/father-cristobal-garcia-priest-fled-to-the-philippines-and-rose-in-the-church

    suspended na pala eh, etong si boborat talaga oh.. paninira lang ang alam... yung ibang thread about your faith bakit di ka nagpopost? di mo kayang i-defend kasi bobo ka naman talaga sa doctrina nyo db! :lol:

    And also, mismong si boborat na TS ang gustong magderail ng topic sa sarili niyang thread:lol:
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