Scientology vs Psychiatry
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^ Hi , I'm a dentist. Yes, consultation is free at UP PGH for the charity section. Since I am not an MD, hindi ko alam what actually counts as "consultation" when it comes to Psychiatric treatment. So there is a chance that while the "consultation" is free, you might need other procedures deemed different from the consultation, and these might have a fee. Also, if you need medicine, you will have to pay for them yourself.
For your convenience, please call PGH's trunkline ( paki google lang ang "PGH landline " ) and ask to be connected to the Psychiatry department. Pwede naman tayong magtanong muna over the phone para malaman mo talaga kung ano ang mga patakaran nila at kung papaano ka magiging patient doon, anong araw sila tumatanggap ng pasyente, bago ka pumunta doon.chicken_joy wrote: »
" Over time I realized that if he (Psychiatrist) helped her, which he did, he would not only save her life but it would also help her children and even her future grandchildren. They would be shaped by someone happier and more stable. I fell in love with Psychiatry because I realized it had the potential to change generations of people " - best quote from the video.0 -
Single dose of antidepressant alters the brain
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/09/140918121436.htm
A single dose of antidepressant is enough to produce dramatic changes in the functional architecture of the human brain. Brain scans taken of people before and after an acute dose of a commonly prescribed serotonin reuptake inhibitor reveal changes in connectivity within three hours, say researchers.
Been there done that. For 5 years I don't take medication, because I'm scared of taking it. But, I missed 5 years of my life without taking meds.
With this condition we have only two choices:
1) Don't take medication and suffer for the rest of your life.
2) Take medication and find relief eventhough it's temporary.
I would choose to take medications even it kills me in the future, as long as I can work today, and prepare for my future. We all gonna die anyway.0 -
Been there done that. For 5 years I don't take medication, because I'm scared of taking it. But, I missed 5 years of my life without taking meds.
With this condition we have only two choices:
1) Don't take medication and suffer for the rest of your life.
2) Take medication and find relief eventhough it's temporary.
I would choose to take medications even it kills me in the future, as long as I can work today, and prepare for my future. We all gonna die anyway.
According to Robert Whitaker, a Pulitzer Prize nominee, unfortunately, what we're now seeing, and have been seeing since antidepressants were introduced, is patients recovering faster but relapsing more, or recovering only partially and transitioning into a festering state of chronic depression that never really resolves.
Long-term studies now indicate that of people with major depression, only about 15 percent that are treated with an antidepressant go into remission and stay well for a long period of time. The remaining 85 percent start having continuing relapses and become chronically depressed.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/09/13/the-epidemic-of-mental-illness--why.aspx0 -
I would choose to take medications even it kills me in the future, as long as I can work today, and prepare for my future. We all gonna die anyway.
Very myopic po. Pero it's your choice if you want to kill your future.
PSSD, Psychosis, Bipolar, Chronic Depression are very serious side-effects to endure as far as I'm concerned.
I wouldn't gamble my future for a temporary relief.
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Very myopic po. Pero it's your choice if you want to kill your future.
PSSD, Psychosis, Bipolar, Chronic Depression are very serious side-effects to endure as far as I'm concerned.
I wouldn't gamble my future for a temporary relief.
The question is, have you tried taking medication? If not, there is no valid reasons for you to tell that Psychiatrist are fake ( pseudo science).
I've said earlier nanggaling na ako jan. For 5 years hindi ako nagtake ng medication dahil takot ako sa mga nababasa ko, and for 5 years walang nangyari sa buhay ko. Tiniis ko mga hilo ko, pagcollapse ko, insomnia at sama ng pakiramdam everyday 24/7.
Doon naisip ko what I've been through is too much. Hahayaan ko ba sarili ko na maging ganito habang buhay o susugal ako? In short nagtake risk ako, and I know what will be consequences are for taking meds "well, halos patayin na rin naman ako ng symptoms ko e bakit hindi ko subukan". Kumbaga "bahala na si Batman"
After taking medication unti-unti nakakilos na ako, hindi na ako basta nahihilo, nakakatulog na ako, nakakalabas na ako.
Yes, some disorder ay kaya ng walang medication, but for severe as mine; kelangan.
Hindi naman siguro nagaral ng matagal ang mga Psychistrist para pumatay ng tao. Kaya nga alam nila kung ilan lang itatake mong gamot at kelan ka mag stop.
Sa totoo lang mas madalas talaga mabasa ang bad comments about SSRI, kasi yung mga nag benefit sa SSRI wala ng panahon para mag write up pa. Kasi their enjoying their life as much as possible kadi hindi nila alam kung kelan ulit aatake yung condition nila.0 -
Very myopic po. Pero it's your choice if you want to kill your future.
PSSD, Psychosis, Bipolar, Chronic Depression are very serious side-effects to endure as far as I'm concerned.
I wouldn't gamble my future for a temporary relief.smilewarrior wrote: »Hi guys. Kindly inform me if you find the creeping in of Scientology ( paki tingnan niyo na lang sa google , in a nut shell Scientology believes fanatically that Psychiatric medicine is evil ) related discussions here at the Psychiatry thread disruptive.
As a moderator I am aware that I need to be fair. Discussions should be balanced, with pro's and con's freely discussed. I am trying my very best to be as tolerant as I can while at the same time preventing any thread here at Health and Wellness from becoming something that is very annoying and uncomfortable to read.
If you guys find the alternative discussions fine I will leave them alone. Or if not I am more than willing to redirect the abovementioned Scientology related discussions to Realm of Thought ( which deals with Philosophy ).
Oo pakulo lang yan ng mga Scientology. Religion ba yun o kulto?0 -
^It's a cult, apparently recognized as a religion. Their members are very zealous, nang-aaway ng mga doctors.
* Perhaps this is a good time for me to remind everyone that advice given here at Health and Wellness is not meant as a substitute for consultation with an actual doctor. For your own benefit, please see a doctor if you strongly feel you need help.
I know of this Psychiatrist, he got afflicted with severe depressions when he was a medical student. He almost ended his own life but somehow an intervention occured and he is now a successful doctor. To this day he himself takes anti-depressant medication. What makes his perspective unique is that he basically went through what his patients went through. Naiintindihan niya ang mga pasyente niya kasi yung pinagdadaanan nila napagdaanan niya din. I would gladly recommend him, unfortunately I forgot his name. He's from UP.
P.S. I am a dentist.0 -
Several years back I went depressed for 6 months after working too hard for years. Since then, I lost motivation to work even though it paid me very well.. I cried whenever I see pictures of my siblings when we were young... I missed them... I became irritable.. I became stagnant.. And I also lost interest in things I previously liked... I didn't know what was happening to me..
My sister, a Psychology graduate from UP, a magna, m.a., noticed something in me and suggested that I was depressed, and I should lead a more balanced life to be happy again. Not just work work and work. She was very aware of the serious side-effects of psychiatric drugs and she advised me to do it the natural way.
So I went on a long vacation. I traveled. I went back to playing basketball regularly under the sun. Took up a hobby. I stared at girls more often.. I made some realizations.. Had a career change.. That simple brought me back and cured my depression. Never had it again which would've been chronic and worse had I taken an anti-depressant.
I know some friends and relatives who took the shortcut (happy pills). One became numb down there. One couldn't get an erection. Another developed hand tremors. Another had short term memory issues. And another developed bipolar. Most regretted taking the happy pills, others are still innocent and blame it to the illness.
You don't need to have had depression or taken medication to learn from these people's mistakes. It's your life though, and it's your choice which course to take.
Unlike these psychiatrists, I don't get any monetary incentives from defending another viewpoint. Just want to make sure that people are properly informed about the seriousness of the side-effects that most psychiatrists in the country hide or downplay to protect their source of income.0 -
Hindi naman siguro nagaral ng matagal ang mga Psychistrist para pumatay ng tao.
A friend of mine has a psychiatrist who has clinics in St. Lukes and UST. I'm not comfortable to tell the name. She prescribed my friend a drug, Clozapine, that can kill you in an instant and requires regular blood tests to be safe. She wasn't informed about it, nor was she ordered to take the tests. Sa akin nya na lang nalaman yung omissions. Attempted murder po yan.
And another friend a former UP lb student, same case, but from a different Psychiatrist, from Mandaluyong.
At kung sinabi sa'yo ng doc na nakakabaog yung medication mo, iinumin mo pa ba? I asked several male friends, they all said no.
May dahilan kaya di nila sinasabi yang mga side-effects sa mga patients nila. Malaki mababawas sa kita nila. Masisira reputation nila.0 -
Lahat naman ata ng bagay na iniingest natin pag sumobra masama e, even foods we eat.
Look at those Cancer patients, do you think hindi masama sa kanila ang medication and chemotherapy in a long run? Pero may choice ba sila?
Siguro you cured your depression kasi mild lang. I assumed because it's only 6 months and besides you are not clinically diagnosed of depression. Siguro malungkot ka lang or na bored ka sa buhay mo. Pero sa mga long time sufferer and with severe disorder, malamang kelangan talaga ng professional help or take medication.
Yup, doctors always tends to do regular blood work para to be sure na hindi "Gaano" nakakaepekto yung gamot sa body ng pasyente nila.
Hindi naman ata fair na hindi sinasabi ng isang Psychiatrist yung bad effects ng SSRI for their own benefit, kaya nga sila my psycho analysis report e. Para mo na rin sinabi na all Psychiatrist are murderers.
At hindi rin fair yung mga tinanungan mong male friends kung magtatake ba sila ng gamot kung nakakabaog ba ito, dahil hindi naman nila na experience first hand what is like to be to have those condition . Try to ask those people that have severe anxiety and depression kung willing sila magtake ng gamot. Ask those people that couldn't cope their depression and anxiety. Ask those people na nawala na lahat sa kanila because of their condition. Malalaman mo ang tunay na sagot.0 -
Siguro you cured your depression kasi mild lang. I assumed because it's only 6 months and besides you are not clinically diagnosed of depression. Siguro malungkot ka lang or na bored ka sa buhay mo. Pero sa mga long time sufferer and with severe disorder, malamang kelangan talaga ng professional help or take medication.
It doesn't matter the severity of your depression. Psychiatrists always write on their prescription pads to add to their flow of income. Pag-ubos na nakalagay na maximum na puede mo bilhin gamit reseta mo, balik ka ulet sa Psychiatrist para mag-paraseta ulet, which is not free.
What if you decided you don't need it anymore? Ang problema sa psychiatric drugs, after you've been on them like 6 months plus, it becomes almost impossible to come off them. You will go through hell if you try. Your Psychiatrist will blame it to your illness when in fact it was due to the drugs. No choice ka kundi payamanin ang Psychiatrist mo kase you become very ill when you don't take your drugs. Dependent na katawan mo sa gamut.Yup, doctors always tends to do regular blood work para to be sure na hindi "Gaano" nakakaepekto yung gamot sa body ng pasyente nila.
"A friend of mine has a psychiatrist from St. Lukes and UST. She prescribed my friend a drug, Clozapine, that can kill you in an instant and requires regular blood tests to be safe. She wasn't informed about it, nor was she ordered to take the tests. "
^ St. Lukes na yan. Paano pa kaya sa iba? "doctors always tend to do regular blood work" is a blatant lie.Hindi naman ata fair na hindi sinasabi ng isang Psychiatrist yung bad effects ng SSRI for their own benefit, kaya nga sila my psycho analysis report e. Para mo na rin sinabi na all Psychiatrist are murderers.
Hindi talaga fair. Mas serious pa ang side-effects kesa dun sa illness na tinitreat nila.
psycho analysis report? Saan yan? O useless formality lang? Reality is most will just talk to you or your relatives in about 5 mins lang, tapus may diagnosis na sila. They'll prescribe you chemical balancers on the GUESS that you have chemical imbalance in your brain. No chemical o biological tests to confirm their guess.
"In the absense of a proven chemical imbalance, the medications are in fact toxic"
"Psychiatrist are the only medical specialists that virtually never look at the organ they treat. Think about it..
Cardiologists look.
Nuerologists look.
Orthopedics look.
All other specialty look.
...Psychiatrists guess."
"There is a reason that most psychiatric medications have blackbox warnings in them, give them to the wrong person and you can precipitate a disaster."Look at those Cancer patients, do you think hindi masama sa kanila ang medication and chemotherapy in a long run? Pero may choice ba sila?
No choice ka na talaga kapag may taning na buhay mo. Pero kapag depressed ka, you have options. Cancer, wala kang gawin deads ka, depression wala kang gawin, buhay ka.At hindi rin fair yung mga tinanungan mong male friends kung magtatake ba sila ng gamot kung nakakabaog ba ito, dahil hindi naman nila na experience first hand what is like to be to have those condition . Try to ask those people that have severe anxiety and depression kung willing sila magtake ng gamot. Ask those people that couldn't cope their depression and anxiety. Ask those people na nawala na lahat sa kanila because of their condition. Malalaman mo ang tunay na sagot.
Severely depressed o mababa self-esteem ka na tapus sinabi sa'yo mababaog ka pa di ba obvious na lalo ka madedepress nyan? It doesn't make sense why you'll still choose medication that will cause you more depression
Para mo na rin sinabi na all Psychiatrist are murderers.
Wala po ako sinabi. 0 -
Seriously considering removing all Scientology related discussions from this thread. Konti na lang ...0
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I'm pretty sure psychiatrists go to school for a good amount of time to know what they're doing. Don't get me wrong, there are some ****** psychiatrists. But, categorizing them all is pretty stereotypical. They went to school for 13-15 years. That's a really long time. They studied the brain, in classes at college that you've probably never even heard of. Give them a break, they know what they're doing.0
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I'm pretty sure psychiatrists go to school for a good amount of time to know what they're doing. Don't get me wrong, there are some ****** psychiatrists. But, categorizing them all is pretty stereotypical. They went to school for 13-15 years. That's a really long time. They studied the brain, in classes at college that you've probably never even heard of. Give them a break, they know what they're doing.
"Who governs what we learn? It's Psychiatry in essense. They write the textbooks. They figure out what goes up National Institute of Mental Health. And when they get these studies, you give them the results they don't want, they bury those studies. They just do not announce those results. And in those 16 studies I identified in Anatomy of an Epidemic, I looked to see, whether the results were ever published in the New York Times, or any newspapers, and you'll find they are not.
And the reason they are not is because Psychiatry and NIMH, those doing the studies, when they get these results, they don't alert, they don't send out a press release saying -- "Hey! the unmedicated patients did better!". So there is really a thing that ACAMEDIC Psychiatry is preserving, one of its product -- Psychiatric drugs. And that's a big reason for it."
- Robert Whitaker, Medical Journalist, Pulitzer Prize Nominee for Public Service
"If Whitaker was right, everything I had been doing for 20 years was wrong. Many psychiatrists have accused him of cherry-picking the data or distorting the findings of the studies. I have spent much of my time rereading the articles and studies he cites, looking for others, talking to colleagues and reading as much criticism of his work as I can find.
And what I concluded is that Whitaker is probably right."
- Dr. Sandra Steingard, MD, Professor of Psychiatry University of Vermont
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