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Ang bagong pakana ni ElCid na iba sa pakana ng katoliko at ni Papa Francis namin.

Ayon kay Papa Francis namin si Cristo sa kasalukuyan ay nasa present form na..

Papa Francis: "..Is Jesus a Spirit, Jesus is not a spirit, Jesus is a person a man, with flesh like ours but full of glory."

Maliwanag ang sabi hindi na daw "Espiritu" kundi "a person with flesh like ours" pero yung "flesh" na yun eh "is in the glory"


Ayon naman sa ibang katoliko:
jandean wrote: »
Catholics truly believe Jesus Christ is true God and true man. But this does not mean that Jesus Christ is part God and part man, nor does it imply that he is the result of a confused mixture of the divine and the human. He became truly man while remaining truly God. (CCC, 464)

Pope Francis in his morning homily on Oct 28, 2013 only declares the present form of Christ. That He is no longer a spirit, but a person with flesh like ours, except his flesh is in the glory of God. Remember that when Jesus was ascended into heaven, He didn't changes form, but He ascended still in the form of a human.

CCC 665: Christ’s ascension marks the definitive entrance of Jesus’ humanity into God’s heavenly domain, whence he will come again (cf. Acts 1:11); this humanity in the meantime hides him from the eyes of men (cf. Col 3:3).


"..declares the present form of Christ.." ano daw? " He is no longer a spirit" hindi na daw Espiritu ano daw? "..a person with flesh like ours, except his flesh is in the glory of God.." parehas sa sinabi ni Papa Francis namin. Ano pa daw? "..He didn't changes form, but He ascended still in the form of a human..." hindi na daw nagbago.

Pero ano yung bagong pakana ni ElCid?


ElCid wrote: »
Ilang beses ba kita susupalpalin sa puntong ito :rotflmao:? Di ba wala namang debate na nanahan ang pagka Dios ni Cristo ayon sa laman ng siya magkatawang tao? So kung puede pala sa katawan yung espirito ng Dios sa katauhan ni Cristo, puede din sa Glorified Body! Di naman rocket science to Bets lols.

Yan na yung pinagmamalaki mong tanong na di masagot sagot? Wahahahaha Panis :rotflmao:

Tandaan ang sabi sa bagong pakana "..kung puede pala sa katawan yung espirito ng Dios sa katauhan ni Cristo.." eh puede din daw ito sa "... puede din sa Glorified Body.."

Yung Diyos Espiritu ni Cristo e puede daw manahan sa Glorified Body, eh ano ba yung "Glorified Body" ayon sa mga pakana ni ElCid?
ElCid wrote: »

Mali din. Noong pasimula di pa siya nagkakatawang tao. Noong magkatawang tao na siya, namatay at binuhay na mag-uli saka siya binigyan ng glorified body na spiritual body sa biblia.

So hindi naman parehos tama so wala ako sasagutin dahil based yung conclusion mo na naman sa mga maling premise? :rotflmao:

Pero pagbibigyan kita. Nagkaroon siya ng GLORIFIED BODY BECAUSE 'NAGKATAWANG TAO SI CRISTO' claro sa biblia. At ayaw ng ama na mabulok ang katawan ni Cristo ayon din sa biblia kaya NILUWALHATI - GLORIFIED. Hindi material dahil walang laman at dugo na magmamana ng kaharian ng langit so kailangan talaga gawing 'SPIRITUAL BODY'.

Ok na?

Mahirap din ang nasa kalagayan mo. Yung maging mahirap may pag-asa pa eh. Yung b0b0 parang mahirap solusyunan? Pero pagtitiagaan kita kausapin? lolz.

Ayon sa pakana ni Papa Francis namin, walang aral ang katoliko na yung dating kalagayan ni Cristo bago magkatawang na Diyos Espiritu eh nanahan pa sa isang Spiritual Body after resurrection. In short Espitu na nanahan sa Espiritu in the present time.

Pero ayon kay ElCid in this present time eh si Cristo na may orihinal na kalagayan bilang Diyos Espiritu eh nanahan sa "Spiritual Body" na siyang Espiritu din.

Maliwanag iba sa pakana ni Papa Francis namin in the present time:

Papa Francis: Jesus in not a Sprit, Jesus with flesh like ours but in the Glory of God"
ElCid: Jesus Spirit was not in flesh like ours but in the Glorified Body which is also a Spirit.



Boom Panis *okay*

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