Honest answer from Menorrah, an INC member

Menorrah

You can post one question at a time and I will answer it honestly.

Question must be simple and not requiring too much exegesis or commentary of a whole chapter. It should be about my faith as a member of the Iglesia ni Cristo.

I have until middle of August for this and then I will be gone again.

edzze1716

paano naging world war 1 tanks ang karong parang ipoipo samantalang ang karo ay nakakabit sa kabayo...at kabayo ay sing bilis ng agila?

Menorrah

Your question is about Jeremiah 4:13 which the INC used to describe the prophecy about WW1.

The chariot with its horse couldn't be faster than the horse without the chariot.

A whirlwind has to slow down on its horizontal speed to make so much damage just as tanks do.

zuriel1968

Hi menorrah, i really appreciate you giving time to answer our questions. let me re post my questions from the previous thread.

"Una, si lamsa ay naniniwala sa trinity yet the INC does not but they follow the bible of the person who believe in trinity. Second, they hate RCC, but they do follow the bible that RCC compiled. Pangatlo, marami ng gumamit ng church of Christ na name na mga samahan, kung sila na una edi mas tama sila dahil sila ang original. Pang apat, kung si Manalo ay tunay ng sugo ng diyos bakit wala syang nagawa na himala? kung si Moses nga mismo nung nag tanong siya kay God ay binigyan siya ng authority to make miracles as a proof na legit siya. Pang lima, kung si Manalo ang nagging daan, pano na ang mga taong na buhay sa 1913 pababa. Lahat na sila sa impyerno na?. "

sophion

Do you have a unique name for yourselves beside "inc" or "inc member"?

"i'm catholic"

"i'm born again"

"i'm muslim"

"i'm buddhist"

"i'm a jehovah's witness"

"i'm ____"

Menorrah

zuriel1968 wrote: »

Hi menorrah, i really appreciate you giving time to answer our questions. let me re post my questions from the previous thread.

"Una, si lamsa ay naniniwala sa trinity yet the INC does not but they follow the bible of the person who believe in trinity. Second, they hate RCC, but they do follow the bible that RCC compiled. Pangatlo, marami ng gumamit ng church of Christ na name na mga samahan, kung sila na una edi mas tama sila dahil sila ang original. Pang apat, kung si Manalo ay tunay ng sugo ng diyos bakit wala syang nagawa na himala? kung si Moses nga mismo nung nag tanong siya kay God ay binigyan siya ng authority to make miracles as a proof na legit siya. Pang lima, kung si Manalo ang nagging daan, pano na ang mga taong na buhay sa 1913 pababa. Lahat na sila sa impyerno na?. "

I will answer your first question and then I will answer other people's question and then go back to your second question and other questions. But I want to give equal chances to everyone. I specifically said one question at a time.

For your first question, we only used Lamsa for several verses like Acts 20:28 and 2 Cor 6:15. We know that Lamsa believes that Jesus is God but we also know that many other versions of the bible are translated by Trinitarians. We don't choose specific versions of the bible for the doctrines. Each verse and it's different renditions are examined using the principle of comparing spiritual things with spiritual as written in 1 Cor 2:13.. They should not contradict.

Menorrah

sophion wrote: »

Do you have a unique name for yourselves beside "inc" or "inc member"?

"i'm catholic"

"i'm born again"

"i'm muslim"

"i'm buddhist"

"i'm a jehovah's witness"

"i'm ____"

We have a hymn called "I am a member of the Church of Christ" or " Ako'y Iglesia ni Cristo".

Aside from the name of Christ, we don't want to be called any other name. No other religion calls their members that way. So it is unique already.

We also describe ourselves as children of God, elect, sons and daughters of God, Christian, chosen people, nation of God, etc. But those are not unique.

edzze1716

Menorrah wrote: »

Your question is about Jeremiah 4:13 which the INC used to describe the prophecy about WW1.

The chariot with its horse couldn't be faster than the horse without the chariot.

A whirlwind has to slow down on its horizontal speed to make so much damage just as tanks do.

so horses= speed , and the chariot is talking about the damage........so you are saying that it contradicts the horses... so the horses on a chariot is not as fast as an eagle........

edzze1716

your tanks is also contradicted by the sentence "at sya ay sasagupang parang mga ulap" which certainly refer to an aerial battle......."at ang kanyang mga kabayo ay sing bilis ng agila" this is understandable that it is a warplane.....the chariot is doubtful as a tank since it was a land vehicle. ... inspite that the chariot is drawn by horses...

Jagon

why are INCs very similar to Islam?

edzze1716

if you read the whole chapter you will find that the invader is the one who owns that horses and chariot not the country to be invade....but if you read the ww1 history it was the british who first introduce the tanks...

Menorrah

Jagon wrote: »

why are INCs very similar to Islam?

Muhammad's uncle in law was a monotheistic Christian and he got it from him. He was using Syriac bible as well.

I studied Islam, that's my source.

sophion

Menorrah wrote: »

We have a hymn called "I am a member of the Church of Christ" or " Ako'y Iglesia ni Cristo".

Aside from the name of Christ, we don't want to be called any other name. No other religion calls their members that way. So it is unique already.

We also describe ourselves as children of God, elect, sons and daughters of God, Christian, chosen people, nation of God, etc. But those are not unique.

i see. so there is really no unique name for you except "inc".

thanks.

Jagon

Menorrah wrote: »

Muhammad's uncle in law was a monotheistic Christian and he got it from him. He was using Syriac bible as well.

I studied Islam, that's my source.

my question was why INC is similar to Islam, not why Islam is similar to INC

edzze1716

nagpalit na pala ng theory ahehe.....dati ang sinasabi sa teksto....yung movement ng tanks ang hinahalintulad sa whirlwind ngayon damage na...ahehe parang science ah.....eh pano mo naman lulusutan na ang mananakop ang may ari ng kabayo at karo samantalang sa world war 1 ay ang british ang unang gumawa ng tangke kulelat naman ang germany......samantalang malinaw sa verse na sabay yun dahil tumutukoy yan sa lakas militar ng mananakop.........

Menorrah

zuriel1968 wrote: »

Hi menorrah, i really appreciate you giving time to answer our questions. Second, they hate RCC, but they do follow the bible that RCC compiled.

We don't hate RCC. We love them and we just want to tell them the truth in our own perspective.

The RCC compiled the bible and also so many others did too. However, the bible canonized itself because each book are compared with each other and used each other as a measuring stick. Canon means measuring stick.

sophion

Jagon wrote: »

my question was why INC is similar to Islam, not why Islam is similar to INC

whats the difference?

sophion

Question: do you circumcise your boys?

Menorrah

sophion wrote: »

Question: do you circumcise your boys?

It's not a religious requirement to circumcise while most are due to tradition and for health reasons as per doctors advice.

Jagon

sophion wrote: »

whats the difference?

who is similar to who. it's a matter of who was copied.

Menorrah

Brb....got to go.