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PBA`s greatest all filipino team champ: CRISPA or SAN MIG COFFE/PUREFOODS?

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  • no talk n txt? lol
  • jaysonwafuxDjaysonwafuxD PEx Rookie ⭐
    jammer22 wrote: »
    no talk n txt? lol

    Ill ask the same question too :lol: TnT have 5 AFC championship and has won in 3 straight years that no other team had accomplished if im not mistaken since yung sa crispa may 2 years na agwat based sa research ko haha.
  • westbound17westbound17 PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Tsaka bakit dalawa lang choices? Lol
  • jazzperjazzper PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Meron talagang ganito? Sa Crispa pa itinulad ah astig.:glee:
  • DAJaviDAJavi PEx Rookie ⭐
    dapat talaga kasama TNT
  • shazam761shazam761 PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    WOW, ito na pinakamaangas na thread na nakita ko sa buong PEX. I-equate ba naman ang accomplishments ng Crispa sa SMCM/Purefoods.

    AFAIK the closest rival of Crispa in terms of achievements sa PBA ay TOYOTA pa din, next probably would be San Miguel Beer, then Alaska, then TNT at saka pa lang yang Chupamixers.

    Madami pang kakainin yang SMCM bago maihanay o matapatan ang achievements ng Crispa.

    Kahit nga si Cone na nalampasan ang 15 PBA championship ni Baby Dalupan inacknowledge na malayo pa sya kay Coach Baby kasi nung wala pang PBA madami nang syang crowns since the MICAA days at pati sa collegiate leagues. All in-all 41 championships meron si coach Baby.

    Kaya dapat ang fans ng SMCM makakuha naman ng konting sense of decency at modesty mula kay Cone. Wag masyado mag-angas at mangarap ng gising.
  • shazam761 wrote: »
    WOW, ito na pinakamaangas na thread na nakita ko sa buong PEX. I-equate ba naman ang accomplishments ng Crispa sa SMCM/Purefoods.

    AFAIK the closest rival of Crispa in terms of achievements sa PBA ay TOYOTA pa din, next probably would be San Miguel Beer, then Alaska, then TNT at saka pa lang yang Chupamixers.

    Madami pang kakainin yang SMCM bago maihanay o matapatan ang achievements ng Crispa.

    Kahit nga si Cone na nalampasan ang 15 PBA championship ni Baby Dalupan inacknowledge na malayo pa sya kay Coach Baby kasi nung wala pang PBA madami nang syang crowns since the MICAA days at pati sa collegiate leagues. All in-all 41 championships meron si coach Baby.

    Kaya dapat ang fans ng SMCM makakuha naman ng konting sense of decency at modesty mula kay Cone. Wag masyado mag-angas at mangarap ng gising.

    Parang ang nabasa ko sa title "All-Filipino" hindi "Achievements"

    Well Crispa >>> Purefoods/BMEG/SanMig > TNT
  • jaysonwafuxDjaysonwafuxD PEx Rookie ⭐
    katorze wrote: »
    Parang ang nabasa ko sa title "All-Filipino" hindi "Achievements"

    Well Crispa >>> Purefoods/BMEG/SanMig > TNT

    Kung padamihan, Purefoods/Conejo/SMC ang pinakamadami with 6. 5 each lang sa Crispa at TnT eh. So kung yun ang gagamiting basis, baka nga Kayo ang greatest afc champ :lol:
  • Kung padamihan, Purefoods/Conejo/SMC ang pinakamadami with 6. 5 each lang sa Crispa at TnT eh. So kung yun ang gagamiting basis, baka nga Kayo ang greatest afc champ :lol:

    Hindi din naman padamihan kuya ang usapan dito "Greatest All-Filipino Champ" daw po sabi ng TS
  • greensoapgreensoap PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    I think the TS (if hindi siya troll) is pertaining solely to the All-Filipino (see title), and not overall. Pag overall, lamang talaga ang Crispa, ang team ng erpats ko LOL.

    Pero you have to admit, pagdating sa All-Filipino, lalo na in the '90s, Purefoods ang isa sa mga kinakatakutan kasi consistent silang mataas palagi ang standing. And I think (again, if this is not a flame-bait thread), this discussion was spurred by SMCM's victory over ROS for another All-Filipino trophy, the franchise's sixth overall and the most by any team in PBA history.

    Also, SMCM has been the most consistent powerhouse team in the league in the past six conferences. That's a mean feat.

    Still, Crispa hands down in terms of overall accomplishment. :)
  • jaysonwafuxDjaysonwafuxD PEx Rookie ⭐
    katorze wrote: »
    Hindi din naman padamihan kuya ang usapan dito "Greatest All-Filipino Champ" daw po sabi ng TS

    I know, so saan natin ibebased to determine who really the greatest is? Di ko kase naabutan yang Crispa so i dont have any idea on how they used to play back then as a team. You said Purefoods > TnT. Ang tanong pano mo nasabe? :)
  • I know, so saan natin ibebased to determine who really the greatest is? Di ko kase naabutan yang Crispa so i dont have any idea on how they used to play back then as a team. You said Purefoods > TnT. Ang tanong pano mo nasabe? :)

    Nung early years ng Purefoods consistent sila laging nasa playoffs, hindi man laging nagchachampion pero runner up naman. Neto lang nadominate ng TNT ang All-Filipino.

    Sa Crispa naman, 10 years lang sila sa liga pero 5 ang All-Filipino Title nila enough para sila ang hirangin na Greatest All-Filipino Champ
  • clarkie31clarkie31 PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    katorze wrote: »
    Nung early years ng Purefoods consistent sila laging nasa playoffs, hindi man laging nagchachampion pero runner up naman. Neto lang nadominate ng TNT ang All-Filipino.

    when the Purefoods franchise enters the league in 1988 and up to 1997, one time lang sila wala sa All Pinoy Cup Finals(if im not mistaken nung 1995 lang), it shows kung gaano sila ka consistent kapag AFC nun. after cap's retirement, naka 3 titles ulit sila sa AFC, so tingin ko di naman kaangasan kung i compare sila sa crispa as far as All Filipino Cup is concerned.
  • Nightwing05Nightwing05 PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    clarkie31 wrote: »
    when the Purefoods franchise enters the league in 1988 and up to 1997, one time lang sila wala sa All Pinoy Cup Finals(if im not mistaken nung 1995 lang), it shows kung gaano sila ka consistent kapag AFC nun. after cap's retirement, naka 3 titles ulit sila sa AFC, so tingin ko di naman kaangasan kung i compare sila sa crispa as far as All Filipino Cup is concerned.

    well said, chief..
    maganda talaga record ng franchise..
    when it comes to the All Filipino Cup..
    yun lang siguro nasa isip nung TS..

    me karapatan naman siguro silang..
    ikumpara sarili nila against crispa sa ganito..
    pero kung overall success, medyo malayo pa sila..
  • strong1000strong1000 PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    Greatest all filipino champ.

    Same for me.

    Crispa and San Mig.

    both are my favorite teams.
  • KID=1412KID=1412 PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Based sa mga naabutan ko, IMO ito ang ranking ko:

    1. Purefoods / Coney Island Core line up of Kap Alvin, Jerry, Rey E, etc (1988-1997 except 1995) 3-6 :lol:
    - Note: Ang totoong naabutan ko yung Coney Island na ng 1993 :naughty:
    - consistently there in the AFC finals although madalas talunan
    - Balwarte ang AFC at di asa sa import :naughty: (nung early 2000s rebuilding na yun)

    2. TNT Core line up of Jimmy A, Jason C, K Will, Ryan R, etc (2009-2013 except 2010) 4-0
    - more consistent version of TNT line up as compared to a more star-studded line up on paper of TNT during the early 2000s

    3. PF/BMEG/SanMig Coffee Core line up of James, Ping, PJ plus/minus Tunay na MVP, Coffee Prince, etc (2006; 2008; 2010; 2014) 3-1
  • dark_runicdark_runic Anyone Is Common.... PEx Expert 🎖️
    Yan ang history ng Purefoods/SanMig sa All Filipino

    1988 A?ejo Purefoods 3-1 All-Filipino Conference
    1989 San Miguel Purefoods 4-2 All-Filipino Conference
    1990 Presto-Tivoli Purefoods 4-3 All-Filipino Conference
    1991 Purefoods Diet Sarsi 3-2 All-Filipino Conference
    1992 San Miguel Purefoods 4-3 All-Filipino Conference
    1993 Coney Island San Miguel 4-2 All-Filipino Cup
    1994 San Miguel Coney Island 4-2 All-Filipino Cup
    1996 Alaska Purefoods 4-1 All-Filipino Cup
    1997 Purefoods Gordon's 4-2 All-Filipino Cup
    2000 Alaska Purefoods 4-1 All-Filipino Cup
    2005-06 Purefoods Red Bull 4-2 Philippine Cup
    2007-08 Sta. Lucia Purefoods 4-3 Philippine Cup
    2009-10 Purefoods Alaska 4-0 Philippine Cup
    2013-14 San Mig Rain or Shine 4-2 Philippine Cup
  • sticking to the name of the thread, I'd consider purefoods to be greater than crispa in terms of all Filipino conference ONLY

    though they are tied with the number of championship plums, this franchise is a consistent fixture in the finals except for a certain year during the patrimonio-codinera era and a number of times from '98 onwards. furthermore, the pba of the patrimonio era are more balanced than the time of crispa so to be consistent at the top implies how tough the franchise is.

    but to evaluate them including the import laced conferences, I'd say: crispa>Toyota> san Miguel> Alaska>
    purefoods
  • darknight10darknight10 PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    do you mean the lineup of a All Fil Champs or the franchise? If lineup, TNT's 3peat Champion lineup will always be the best, atleast in this century.
  • ^^ guess its the franchise as a whole. lineups and coaching staff both factored in. lalo ngayon kita natin andaming star studded teams pero for some reason under achieving at the same time, teams na barya barya players lang pero nasa finals
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