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Who would win: Prime Alaska Milkmen ('96) VS Prime Talk and Text (3x AFC)

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Alaska

C: Poach Juinio
PF: Bong Hawkins
SF: Jeffrey Cariaso
SG: Jojo Lastimosa
PG: Johnny Abarrientos

Coach: Tim Cone


VS

Talk N Text

C: Ali Peak
PF: Kelly Williams / Ranidel De Ocampo
SF: Ryan Reyes
SG: Jason Castro
PG: Jimmy Alapag

Coach: Chot Reyes


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Who do you think would win? Don't know for sure but I have a soft spot for the Milkmen because of three things.... Tim Cone, Johnny Abarrientos, and Triangle Offense.
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  • Walang Tatalo sa Alaska Batch 96

    kahit pa Tnt Prime at Ginebra 96
  • Player_1Player_1 PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    TnT. Aces can't even defend their all filipino title
  • isn't it interesting that the centers aren't really the best in the league? sige, per position tayo:

    C Peek > Juinio
    PF Williams/RDO > Hawkins
    SF Reyes < Cariaso
    SG Castro < Jolas
    PG Alapag < Johnny A
    Bench TNT > Alaska
    Coach Reyes < Cone (?)
    Winner TNT < Alaska (?)
    :lol:
  • Player_1 wrote: »
    TnT. Aces can't even defend their all filipino title

    If am not mistaken, the following year they lost cariaso and acquired duremdes... the talent was there pero siyempre mangangapa si duremdes lalo na first conference ang all filipino noon.
  • poypelpoypel PEx Rookie ⭐
    TNT. I still believe that players of today have their edge against those of yesterday.
  • isn't it interesting that the centers aren't really the best in the league? sige, per position tayo:

    C Peek > Juinio
    PF Williams/RDO > Hawkins
    SF Reyes < Cariaso
    SG Castro < Jolas
    PG Alapag < Johnny A
    Bench TNT > Alaska
    Coach Reyes < Cone (?)
    Winner TNT < Alaska (?)
    :lol:

    I don't know bout sa PF, SF and SG comparison. RDO and Hawkins should cancel out each other, RR is a defensive freak (stealing of course) and IMHO, i think Castro>Jolas. Of course, Johnny A is still Johnny A.*okay*

    TNT pa rin ako dito. 3x Defending Champs is enough argument.
  • jaysonwafuxDjaysonwafuxD PEx Rookie ⭐
    Kelangan ba nasa prime years yung players?Kung ganun kase tnt will have a huge edge siguro since nababasa ko na mejo mahina bench ng Alaska nun. Imagine a Prime Alapag,Kelly,RDO,Ali and Ryan then you have a prime Castro Fonacier Jared and Harvey off the bench.

    Nasa prime years pa ba sila Johnny A nung time na yan?Di ko na kase naabutan yung time nila since 1999 ako unang nakapanuod ng PBA.
  • drei221drei221 PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    In their prime, if it will be just a single game, Alaska might get a W. But if it will be a 7 game series I'd say TnT via 4-3.
    Triangle vs DDO, should be interesting to watch.
  • a team which was BUILT vs a team which was BOUGHT. :rolleyes:

    Grandslam says it all. :)
  • a team which was BUILT vs a team which was BOUGHT. :rolleyes:

    Grandslam says it all. :)

    teka may nag-a la SLR ba para mabuo ng Alaska ang team nila? :evil:
  • Kelangan ba nasa prime years yung players?Kung ganun kase tnt will have a huge edge siguro since nababasa ko na mejo mahina bench ng Alaska nun. Imagine a Prime Alapag,Kelly,RDO,Ali and Ryan then you have a prime Castro Fonacier Jared and Harvey off the bench.

    Hindi prime years ng isang player kundi yung prime years ng team when they were winning.

    Correct hindi ganun kalakas bench ng alaska pero somehow magaling magrotate ng players si tim cone at kahit nakaupo mga starters niya, hindi nangangapa ang alaska noon.

    Nasa prime years pa ba sila Johnny A nung time na yan?Di ko na kase naabutan yung time nila since 1999 ako unang nakapanuod ng PBA.
    That was Johnny A's MVP year, so yeah that year was his deadliest..... not even marlou aquino can't stop Johnny A during those time, pinasasabay talaga ni Johnny A. si Aquino.
  • in those years naman kasi, maninipis naman yata ang mga benches ng mga teams. hindi kayang mag-hoard kasi ang sister teams lang ay SMB & GSM, at parang hindi sister team ang turing ni jawo sa SMB :lol:
  • in those years naman kasi, maninipis naman yata ang mga benches ng mga teams. hindi kayang mag-hoard kasi ang sister teams lang ay SMB & GSM, at parang hindi sister team ang turing ni jawo sa SMB :lol:

    actually, ito lang ang na-appreciate ko kay jawo. :lol:
  • drei221 wrote: »
    In their prime, if it will be just a single game, Alaska might get a W. But if it will be a 7 game series I'd say TnT via 4-3.

    lol, i think it's the other way around. alaska's superior teamwork and familiarity is their biggest strength especially in a 7-game series.

    alaska's very unselfish plays and ball movement is a sight to behold then.
  • whiplash wrote: »
    actually, ito lang ang na-appreciate ko kay jawo. :lol:

    para siyang si paul heyman. si vinnie mac ang nagpapasweldo pero siya nagpapaandar. :lol:
  • whiplash wrote: »
    lol, i think it's the other way around. alaska's superior teamwork and familiarity is their biggest strength especially in a 7-game series.

    alaska's very unselfish plays and ball movement is a sight to behold then.

    Correct.. that's the reason tim cone utilized the triangle kasi when he saw the bulls using the triangle they were like "dancing" daw. I still remmber during their grandslam year walang kahirap hirap umiskor ang alaska... asar nga ako noon kasi ginebra fan ako tapos puro jump shot lang ginagawa ng alaska.... only later i found out na the triangle was the reason for them having easy looks... of course it also helped that their big three are excellent jump shooters and juinio a grear passer and cariaso the slasher..... perfect compliment si junio at cariaso sa big three nila (abarrientos, hawkins, lastimosa).

    Sa talk and text naman.... i think abbarientos and carriaso can handle alapag ang castro.... medyo problema lang sina reyes, williams at peak.... medyo mismatch sina hawkins,juinio at lastimosa doon... pero i think sa talk and text, if you stop castro and alapag, you stop TnT.
  • cariaso/jolas can owned castro/reyes

    jolas can play defense on reyes, hindi naman scorer si ryan reyes. i think a young jeff can easily guard a prime castro,

    ang tanong sino babantay kanino, if si castro mg babantay kay jeff poste yan for sure, mas malaking mismatch naman if si jolas bantayan ni castro proven si jolas na marunong pumoste.

    pag dating naman sa player movement kahit naka pikit siguro ang alaska alam kung sino at saan papasa.. tapos prime jhonny A pa. kawawa lang si alapag
  • roundtablepizzaroundtablepizza Member PEx Expert 🎖️
    Alaska hands down. You have the best PG(of all time in the PBA) in Abarrientos, veteran players in Lastimosa and Hawkins plus scoring of Cariaso. Kay Johnny palang, napakalaki na ng advantage nila. Then you have Hawkins na ga-piso lang ang talon but makes up a lot on how he thrives on the triangle as well as his smarts. Dami nauutakan niyan ni Bong, kaya nga diba dalawa kontrata niyan hehehe joke. Seriously, Hawkins can score jumpers as well as the inside. Lastimosa gives you the stability if everybody isn't connecting.
  • even match up eto. si Roehl gomez ang big difference ng serye. :rotflmao:


    seriously though,

    tnt. mas malalim ang bench.
  • even match up eto. si Roehl gomez ang big difference ng serye.

    MAli ka bro... si bolado ang big difference!:lol:

    Sama mo na si bachman!:bop:


    Pero seriously, kahit second stringers ang ipasok na tim cone noon... hindi sila natataranta..
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