Local gasoline findings by Volkswagen.
Azulbanirpal
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http://www.topgear.com.ph/news/industry-news/what-did-volkswagen-engineers-find-in-philippine-gasoline-products#
The first thing that Volkswagen engineers told Automobile Central Enterprise, the new Philippine distributor of the German carmaker, was that the company cannot sell gasoline-fueled variants in our market. That's because the engineers, after conducting tests and spot checks, found that some of our petrol fuels contain a harmful ingredient.
"They found manganese in some petrol products," revealed ACE sales and marketing head Arnel Doria during a media roundtable at the Manila Polo Club in Makati today. "They use manganese to achieve high octane ratings. It's a substitute for lead and can be damaging to some engine components. Lead has already been banned. Manganese, like lead, also causes ailments that involve the nervous system."
"We were disappointed when we were told we couldn't bring in our gasoline models," ACE president John Philip Orbeta said. "They said our gasoline fuels are bad."
On the other hand, the engineers cleared our diesel fuels.
"The surprise here is that our petrol is bad and our diesel is good, contrary to what we've always believed," Doria added.
To be perfectly clear, the ACE executives pointed out that only the petrol fuels of the smaller oil companies were found to contain manganese. Apparently, the gasoline products of the major brands are okay.
"The major brands submitted to us a certification stating that their fuels do not have manganese," Orbeta shared.
Ultimately, Volkswagen will sell gasoline variants in our market after this issue with petrol fuels has been properly dealt with.
So, how come the gasoline models of brands that belong to the Volkswagen Group--Audi, Porsche, Lamborghini and Bentley, all of which are distributed by PGA Cars--are being sold here without this issue ever having been brought up?
"That's their problem, not ours," the ACE bosses answered matter-of-factly.
Dunno if this is true or just an excuse by VW not to bring their gas engines here?
The first thing that Volkswagen engineers told Automobile Central Enterprise, the new Philippine distributor of the German carmaker, was that the company cannot sell gasoline-fueled variants in our market. That's because the engineers, after conducting tests and spot checks, found that some of our petrol fuels contain a harmful ingredient.
"They found manganese in some petrol products," revealed ACE sales and marketing head Arnel Doria during a media roundtable at the Manila Polo Club in Makati today. "They use manganese to achieve high octane ratings. It's a substitute for lead and can be damaging to some engine components. Lead has already been banned. Manganese, like lead, also causes ailments that involve the nervous system."
"We were disappointed when we were told we couldn't bring in our gasoline models," ACE president John Philip Orbeta said. "They said our gasoline fuels are bad."
On the other hand, the engineers cleared our diesel fuels.
"The surprise here is that our petrol is bad and our diesel is good, contrary to what we've always believed," Doria added.
To be perfectly clear, the ACE executives pointed out that only the petrol fuels of the smaller oil companies were found to contain manganese. Apparently, the gasoline products of the major brands are okay.
"The major brands submitted to us a certification stating that their fuels do not have manganese," Orbeta shared.
Ultimately, Volkswagen will sell gasoline variants in our market after this issue with petrol fuels has been properly dealt with.
So, how come the gasoline models of brands that belong to the Volkswagen Group--Audi, Porsche, Lamborghini and Bentley, all of which are distributed by PGA Cars--are being sold here without this issue ever having been brought up?
"That's their problem, not ours," the ACE bosses answered matter-of-factly.
Dunno if this is true or just an excuse by VW not to bring their gas engines here?
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hmm... according to my uncle who still drives around in a volkswagon 69 beetle (automatic pa, rare raw na model kaya hindi mabitawan), noong nagsimulang haluan ng alcohol ang mga gasolina ay hirap na hirap siya magpaandar ng beetle niya. according to him, pahirapan raw sa adjustment sa air-fuel? I'm not sure since I'm more of a motorcycle enthusiast than a car (beetle) guy.
kailangan pa raw maghanap ng nagtitinda ng regular gasoline. buti na lang nasa probinsiya kami, maraming stations ang nagtitinda pa rin ng regular. problema ay hindi niya madrive ng malayo dahil walang regular na available sa ibang probinsiya, lalo sa manila.
ipakita ko sa kanya etong article about the manganese additive. thanks TS.0 -
^ganyan din sabi ng pinsan ko na fan ng VW.
Nice article, thanks for sharing.0 -
Revelations wrote: »hmm... according to my uncle who still drives around in a volkswagon 69 beetle (automatic pa, rare raw na model kaya hindi mabitawan), noong nagsimulang haluan ng alcohol ang mga gasolina ay hirap na hirap siya magpaandar ng beetle niya. according to him, pahirapan raw sa adjustment sa air-fuel? I'm not sure since I'm more of a motorcycle enthusiast than a car (beetle) guy.
kailangan pa raw maghanap ng nagtitinda ng regular gasoline. buti na lang nasa probinsiya kami, maraming stations ang nagtitinda pa rin ng regular. problema ay hindi niya madrive ng malayo dahil walang regular na available sa ibang probinsiya, lalo sa manila.
ipakita ko sa kanya etong article about the manganese additive. thanks TS.
Hey man, that is because of the mix of ethanol in our fuels. It was a law passed before for all fuel companies to start mixing ethanol to encourage local sugarcane farmers to grow more. Unfortunately, this sort of backfired and we are now the 2nd largest importer of ethanol in the world.
Ethanol does not mix well with fuel and can damage engines. Modern engines must be designated as flex fuel to be able to burn ethanol properly. The regular unleaded petrol you buy at your neighbourhood service station with have 10% ethanol mixed in it. The thing is, if you leave this "mixed" fuel in your tank, it would separate after a week.
I know there are a few fuels out there that still do not mix ethanol in their fuel such as Petron's blaze or Core Oil which only has a few stations in the city. All fuels from Shell and Caltex are mixed with ethanol.
Tell your uncle to drain his tank and fill it up with Petron's blaze. His engine is really not meant for running on ethanol mixed fuel and will only damage his engine in the long run. And your uncle is right, the automatic variant of the beetle is a rarer bird than the usual manual one. I'd keep it too.0 -
Revelations wrote: »hmm... according to my uncle who still drives around in a volkswagon 69 beetle (automatic pa, rare raw na model kaya hindi mabitawan), noong nagsimulang haluan ng alcohol ang mga gasolina ay hirap na hirap siya magpaandar ng beetle niya. according to him, pahirapan raw sa adjustment sa air-fuel? I'm not sure since I'm more of a motorcycle enthusiast than a car (beetle) guy.
kailangan pa raw maghanap ng nagtitinda ng regular gasoline. buti na lang nasa probinsiya kami, maraming stations ang nagtitinda pa rin ng regular. problema ay hindi niya madrive ng malayo dahil walang regular na available sa ibang probinsiya, lalo sa manila.
ipakita ko sa kanya etong article about the manganese additive. thanks TS.
Carburreted engines don't do well with ethanol-blended gas. But then halos pawala na rin ang mga yan (even motorcycles have started to sport EFI). And for a daily-driven car, E10 is not really a problem. Problema talaga kapag weekend car lang. Water/ethanol really begins to separate from the gas.0 -
Revelations wrote: »hmm... according to my uncle who still drives around in a volkswagon 69 beetle (automatic pa, rare raw na model kaya hindi mabitawan), noong nagsimulang haluan ng alcohol ang mga gasolina ay hirap na hirap siya magpaandar ng beetle niya. according to him, pahirapan raw sa adjustment sa air-fuel? I'm not sure since I'm more of a motorcycle enthusiast than a car (beetle) guy.
kailangan pa raw maghanap ng nagtitinda ng regular gasoline. buti na lang nasa probinsiya kami, maraming stations ang nagtitinda pa rin ng regular. problema ay hindi niya madrive ng malayo dahil walang regular na available sa ibang probinsiya, lalo sa manila.
ipakita ko sa kanya etong article about the manganese additive. thanks TS.
Petron Blaze 100 has no ethanol.0 -
i'm quite surprised with their reason why they cannot bring their gasoline powered cars since Volkswagen also owns lamborghini, porsche and audi how come those 3 high end brands have no problems with our supposedly contaminated petrol?0
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Thanks for all your comments guys, actually this was on GMA7 news a few nights ago. The issue of the manganese as a substitute bothers me.0
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It is a pretty lame excuse. I'm afraid this re-introduction of VW will ultimately just end up the same as VW Phils back in the 90s.
I think that Ayala will be a decent car distributor unlike the last VW distributor in the 90s. maybe they will bring detuned gas engines para maging compatible sa fuel natin dito.0
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