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Greatest Filipino Player of All Time - Anyone?

I was reading wikipedia and browsing the net, come across with several articles about "GOAT" (Greatest of All Time) and nagsimula akong magisip - sino ba sa mga Pinoy ang pinaka-GOAT sa kani-kanilang sports discipline?

Naka-come-up ako ng lista (based on the internet) and may mga sports na mahirap makahanap ng "the best".

Kayo, sino sa tingin nyo? eto ang mga lista:
  • Basketball - Carlos Loyzaga aka "The Big Difference" (the player who led Philippines in appearing in the Olympics and claiming the bronze medal in FIBA World Championship, the only Asian country to win a medal up to this day. Note: di pa uso ang 3 points noon)
  • Tennis - Feliciano Ampon (the smallest male player, pound for pound, and at the same time defeating several #1 players of his era; also the only Filipino to reach QF in any Grand Slam event)
  • Billiard - Efren Bata Reyes (or pwede din si Django as per other's commentary)
  • Bowling - Paeng Nepumuceno (Guinness World Record holder of the most number of Championship (4); the only Filipino who is in the Bowling's Hall of Fame)
  • Boxing - Manny Pacquiao (the only boxer in the world to have 8 titles in different division)
  • Football (Soceer) - ??????
  • Badminton - ??????
  • Distance Runner - ??????
  • Fencing - ??????
  • Swimming - ??????
  • Chess - ??????
  • Archery - ?????
  • Baseball - ??????
  • Golf - ??????
  • Volleyball - ??????
  • Taekwondo - ??????

So, sino sa tingin nyo dapat nandito sa listahan?
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  • The greatest Filipino weightlifter of all time is Rodrigo Del Rosario. He placed fifth in the featherweight class at the 1948 London Olympics and improved his ranking to fourth four years later in Helsinki. Del Rosario was the only Filipino athlete to set a world record at the Olympics, achieving the feat in the now discontinued military press.

    Second on the list is Pedro Landero, who was Del Rosario's teammate at the 1952 and 1956 Olympics. He placed sixth in the bantamweight division at the Helsinki Games.

    Del Rosario and Landero also won medals at the Asian Games. They are the closest Filipino athletes to win medals in the Olympic weightlifting competition.

    Another notable name is Del Rosario's nephew, Salvador, who won the clean-and-jerk gold and snatch bronze at the 1970 World Weightlifting Championships in Columbus, Ohio.

    Other Filipino weightlifters worth mentioning are Arturo Del Rosario, Rodrigo's son, Ramon Solis and many-time Southeast Asian Games champion Jaime Sebastian. :macho: :socool:
  • Jay P. MercadoJay P. Mercado Moderator PEx Moderator
    Golf will probably carry the names of Celestino Tugot, "Bantam" Ben Arda and Frankie Minoza on top of the list. These three are the most accomplished in the international professional stage while Luis "Golem" Silverio is arguably the most decorated amateur golfer in Philippine history.

    Chess remains to be the fiefdom of Grandmaster Eugene Torre but it won't be long before GM Wesley So takes over. Torre's feat is that he inspired Filipinos to take up the sport and was the beacon of PHL chess for more than 3 decades. But the young So is doing very well - becoming the very first Filipino to become a Hyper-GM - a title bestowed to a player whose ELO rating reaches 2700.
  • Updated List: (Note that the list may change depending sa mga comments nyo..)
    • Basketball - Carlos Loyzaga
    • Tennis - Feliciano Ampon
    • Billiard - Efren Bata Reyes
    • Bowling - Paeng Nepumuceno
    • Boxing - Manny Pacquiao
    • Weightlifter - Rodrigo Del Rosario
    • Chess - Eugene Torre
    • Golf - Celestino Tugot
    • Football (Soceer) - ??????
    • Badminton - ??????
    • Distance Runner - ??????
    • Fencing - ??????
    • Swimming - ??????
    • Archery - ?????
    • Baseball - ??????
    • Volleyball - ??????
    • Taekwondo - ??????
  • Soccer/Football-It will be Paulino Alcantara. I heard that there is a monument in his name in one country (Spain or Germany) because of his accomplishments as a football player. He was once I think the all time leading scorer at FC Barcelona.
  • Soccer/Football-It will be Paulino Alcantara. I heard that there is a monument in his name in one country (Spain or Germany) because of his accomplishments as a football player. He was once I think the all time leading scorer at FC Barcelona.

    wow.. i read this guy just now in wikipedia, and i'll agree, he is the greatest Filipino socceer player. Does the azkals players know him? it will be a shame if hindi nila kilala si Paulino Alcatara. Ang mga azkal fans kaya?
  • si lydia de vera ba masasabi nating greatest runner ng Pilipinas?
  • rationalrational PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Lydia de vega. Yes, probably the greatest track athlete.

    Si Paulino Alcantara naman is still the all time greatest scorer in the history of FC Barcelona. Although malapit nang lampasan ni Messi.
  • ceedeeceedee PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Athletics (Men) Simeon Toribio - bronze medalist in high jump in 1932 Olympic Games.. also worth mentioning, Miguel White, Olympic bronze medalist in 400m hurdles in 1936.
    Athletis (Women) Lydia de Vega - Asia's Sprint Queen during the 80's. won back-to-back gold medals in 100-m in 1982 and 1986 Asaian Games. two-time Olympiad. also worth mentioning Elma Muros
    Basketball (men) - Carlos Loyzaga . not only he was a part of that bronze medal-winning team in 1954 World Championship. he became a member of the Mythical Five in that tournament as well.
    Billiards (men) - Efren "Bata" Reyes - two-time world champion. winner of 86 international tournaments. special mention: Django Bustamante, Dennis Orcullo
    Billiards (women) - Rubilen Amit - 2009 world 10-ball champion and undisputed Queen of Billiards in Southaast Asia
    Boxing - professional (men) - Gabriel "Flash" Elorde - yes, I will pick him over Pacman anytime. since during his time, there are only two LEGITIMATE boxing crowns (WBA and WBC) unlike now, it's so easy to get a world title what with so many alphabet association involved and besides, Pacman idolized him. Special mention: Pancho Villa, Manny Pacquiao
    Boxing - professional (women) - Ana Julaton - she's a three-time world champion for nothing, right?
    Boxing - Amateur (men) - Anthony Villanueva and Mansueto "Onyok" Velasco - the only silver medalists for the Philippines in the Olympic Games.
    Boxing - Amateur (women)- Josie Gabuco - the reigning world light-flyweight champion.
    Bowling (men) - Paeng Nepomuceno - arguably the world's best bowler of all time. six-time world bowling champion and the only bowler to win the World Cup of Bowling four times and in three separate decades at that and the youngest as well.special mention: CJ Suarez
    Bowling (women) - Bong Coo - four-time world champion. and the most bemedalled Filipino athlete of all time in any sports. special mention: Arianne Cedana and Lita dela Rosa
    Chess - Eugene Torre and Wesley So - Torre is the first Asian grandmaster while So is the youngest player to breach super-GM (ELO rating 2600 plus) status.
    Golf (men) - Ben Arda and Frankie Minoza - Arda was the first Filipino golfer to compete in the Golf Grand Slam. He, along with Rudy Lavares, gave the Philippines the runner-up finish in World Cup of Golf (1977). Minoza was ranked among the top 100 players in the world for 4 consecutive years (1996 to 1999). and in 1999, he ranked 55th in the world and was qualified to play in the first staging of World Matchplay championship.
    Golf (women) - Dorothy Delasin - this Fil-Am golfer won 4 LPGA titles and together with Jennifer Rosales, they gave the Philippines its first world golf championship by winning the Women's World Cup of Golf in 2008. special mention: Jennifer Rosales
    Gymnastics - Bea Lucero - the most successful Filipino gymnast in the Southeast Asia Games. She almost dominated the gymnastics event in the 1987 SEA Games by winning 2 golds and 3 silvers in 6 women's event including the all events title. She could have joined the 1988 Olympics but was disqualified due to underage.
    Swimming (men) - Teofilo Yldefonso - the only two-time Filipino Olympic medalist. he won the bronze medals in the 200m breaststroke in 1928 and 1932 Olympics. Special mentions; Ral Rosario, Eric Buhain and Migiel Molina'
    Swimming (women) - Akiko Thompson - multiple gold medal winner in 1987, 1989 and 1991 SEA Games. she is a -three-time Olympiad as well. Special mention - Christine Jacobs
    Taekwondo (men) - Roberto "Kiko" Cruz - the most bemedalled Filipino jin. as he won silvers in World Taekwondo Championship in three successive editions in Finweight division (1995, 1997, 1999) and added another 2 bronzes in the next two editions (2001 and 2003). he dominated this weight division in the SEA games for six consecutive editions (1991 to 2001)
    Taekwondo (women) - Bea Lucero - bronze medalist in 1992 Olympic Games.
    Tennis - Felicisimo Ampon - aside from his quarterfinal stint of a Grand Slam event, which he did it not only once but twice (1952 and 1953 French Open). he also won the plate championship in Wimbledon in 1953. Special mention: Reymyndo Deyro and Felix Barrientos
  • The greatest Filipino player of all time is Ramon Revilla, Sr. having fathered hundreds of children!

    'Tay ka, anong player ba ang pinag-uusapan dine? :confused:

    --sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4
  • djaynitor wrote: »
    The greatest Filipino player of all time is Ramon Revilla, Sr. having fathered hundreds of children!

    'Tay ka, anong player ba ang pinag-uusapan dine? :confused:

    --sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4

    Any player na masasabi mong the greatest of all Filipino players pagdating sa kani-kanilang sports decipline.
  • Updated List: (Note that the list may change depending sa mga comments nyo..)
    • Basketball - Carlos Loyzaga
    • Tennis - Feliciano Ampon
    • Billiard (Men) - Efren Bata Reyes
    • Billiard (Women) - Rubilen Amit
    • Bowling (Men) - Paeng Nepumuceno
    • Bowling (Women) - Bong Coo
    • Boxing (Women) - Ana Julaton
    • Weightlifter - Rodrigo Del Rosario
    • Chess - Eugene Torre
    • Golf (Men) - Ben Arda
    • Golf (Women) - Dorothy Delasin
    • Football (Soceer) - Paulino Alcantara
    • Distance Runner (Women) - Lydia de Vega
    • Distance Runner (Men) - Simeon Toribio
    • Swimming (Men) - Teofilo Yldefonso
    • Swimming (Women) - Akiko Thompson
    • Taekwondo (men) - Roberto "Kiko" Cruz
    • Taekwondo (women) - Bea Lucero
    • Badminton - ??????
    • Fencing - ??????
    • Archery - ?????
    • Baseball - ??????
    • Volleyball - ??????
    • Boxing (Men) - ???????

    Hindi ko na sinama ang mga special mentions since madami talaga sila, and ang pinaguusapan dito is ang the greatest of them all at dapat isa lang..

    Blinangko ko ang sa Boxing (Men) since sa previous post si Elorde ang nkalagay na the best of all time..
  • Meanie!!Meanie!! PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Kung Muay Thai sa Pilipinas, probably Brent Velasco(amateur) from Baguio city. Won Gold and silver a few times in international competitions in a very competitive division. He also won silver in the SEA games muay thai a few years back which was held in the Philippines.
  • ceedeeceedee PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    genre007 wrote: »
    • Distance Runner (Women) - Lydia de Vega
    • Distance Runner (Men) - Simeon Toribio
    • Badminton - ??????
    • Fencing - ??????
    • Archery - ?????
    • Baseball - ??????
    • Volleyball - ??????

    sa tingin ko, palitan mo ng Athletics instead of distance runner kasi ang distance running ay takbuhan ng mahabang distansya at isa sa mga events ng Athletics. isa pa, sprinter si Lydia de Vega at high jumper si Simeon Toribio.

    as for the other sports you mentioned, here's my take..

    Badminton: Our country is non-existent when it comes to this sport. Nagkataon kasi na natabunan tayo ng mga neighbors natin gaya ng Malaysia at Indonesia, who are considered world-best in this sport. if I will mention someone, they don't deserve to be in this list.

    Fencing: In SEA Games level, Walbert Mendoza stands out as he dominated the sabre event by winning the gold in 2005 and 2011 and a silver in 2007.

    Archery - Amaya Paz spearheaded our country in dominating the compound archery event in SEA Games for 2 consecutive editions (2005, 2007). not only that, she won 3 gold medals in Asian Grand Prix in 2007 that propelled her to number 17 in the world rankings.

    Other sports
    Judo - John Baylon - the only athlete to have won the same event in nine consecutive editions of SEA Games.

    Equestrian - Toni Leviste - even though, Mikee Conjuangco won the gold medal in 2002 Asian Games. Toni won numerous international showjumping titles, the last one in 2008 at Dinard, France.

    Wushu - Willy Wang - the most successful wushu artist, two-time world champion in nanquan event as he won in 1997 world championship and Beijing Olympic demonstration event. in 2008.
  • ceedee wrote: »
    Badminton: Our country is non-existent when it comes to this sport. Nagkataon kasi na natabunan tayo ng mga neighbors natin gaya ng Malaysia at Indonesia, who are considered world-best in this sport. if I will mention someone, they don't deserve to be in this list. .

    The obvious choices here are Amparo "Weena" Lim, the only Filipino shuttler to see action in the Olympics, and the sibling mixed pair of Kennevic and Kennie Asuncion. But as you mentioned, the country's best in this sport is nowhere near world-class standards. :socool:
  • Meanie!!Meanie!! PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Speaking of 'wushu' what about 'sanshou/sanda?' I know some names and know who is the best skilled but as for the most decorated, I'm not really sure. tsaka baka biased ako.

    Anyone?
  • ceedeeceedee PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Meanie!! wrote: »
    Speaking of 'wushu' what about 'sanshou/sanda?' I know some names and know who is the best skilled but as for the most decorated, I'm not really sure. tsaka baka biased ako.

    Anyone?

    It's Rene Catalan who won the gold medal in men's 48-kg division in 2 successive editions of World Championship. (2003 and 2005)
    Benjie Rivera is the most bemedalled having won the gold in 2005 and a bronze in 2007 (men's 52-kg) and another bronze in men's 56-kg in 2011

    other multiple winners in sanda
    Rexel Nganhayna who won a bronze in 2003 and gold in 2005 (men's 56 kg)
    Jennifer Laglag won the bronze in 2005 and a silver in 2007 (women's 48 kg)
    Mary Jane Estimar won the silver in 2007 and another silver in 2011 (women's 52)
    Marianne Mariano won the bronze in 2007 (women's 60-kg) and silver in 2011 (women's 56 kg)

    Willy Wang, on the other hand, is the most bemedalled in wushu having collected 2 golds, 1 silver and 1 bronze


    by the way, Jessie Aligaga and Dembert Arcita will defend their gold medal in men's 48-kg and 52-kg respectively in Kuala Lumpur this coming October.
  • Thanks ceedee sa suggestions mo abouth sa distance runner. I've changed it into Athletics.

    hopefully withing this week, i'll include **** ang year kelan sila nagka-impact (defining moment) at naging dahilan para maconsider sila as the greatest.
    That way, makita natin kung gaano na katagal since the last time na nagkaroon tayo ng greatest.

    Ang sa sanda, i'll leave it blank. kelangan mainstream (or large following) ang person na nabanggit since yun din ang reason bakit sila nakilala as the greatest dahil sa madaming nakakakilala sa kanila.
    • Basketball - Carlos Loyzaga
    • Tennis - Feliciano Ampon
    • Billiard (Men) - Efren Bata Reyes
    • Billiard (Women) - Rubilen Amit
    • Bowling (Men) - Paeng Nepumuceno
    • Bowling (Women) - Bong Coo
    • Boxing (Women) - Ana Julaton
    • Weightlifter - Rodrigo Del Rosario
    • Chess - Eugene Torre
    • Golf (Men) - Ben Arda
    • Golf (Women) - Dorothy Delasin
    • Football (Soceer) - Paulino Alcantara
    • Athletics (Women) - Lydia de Vega
    • Athletics (Men) - Simeon Toribio
    • Swimming (Men) - Teofilo Yldefonso
    • Swimming (Women) - Akiko Thompson
    • Taekwondo (men) - Roberto "Kiko" Cruz
    • Taekwondo (women) - Bea Lucero
    • Muay Thai - Brent Velasco
    • Judo - John Baylon
    • Equestrian - Toni Leviste
    • Fencing - Walbert Mendoza
    • Wushu - Willy Wang
    • Archery - Amaya Paz
    • Badminton - ??????
    • Baseball - ??????
    • Volleyball - ??????
    • Boxing (Men) - ???????

    If you have any other players na sa tingin nyo much better sa lista ko, feel free to comment, para naman ma-discuss bakit sila ang the greatest.
  • TheEndofDaysTheEndofDays PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Cool_Enz wrote: »
    The obvious choices here are Amparo "Weena" Lim, the only Filipino shuttler to see action in the Olympics, and the sibling mixed pair of Kennevic and Kennie Asuncion. But as you mentioned, the country's best in this sport is nowhere near world-class standards. :socool:

    Meron tayo it's a guy forgot his name, lumalaban pa tayo noong 70's at 80's dito with only him. Sadly walang sumunod sa kanya. It's good na merong nag regional tourney Axiata Cup, kahit talo tayo may laban din pala, natalo nga natin sa isang game ang Singapore at muntik na isang european player sa singles
  • Jay P. MercadoJay P. Mercado Moderator PEx Moderator
    Meron tayo it's a guy forgot his name, lumalaban pa tayo noong 70's at 80's dito with only him. Sadly walang sumunod sa kanya. It's good na merong nag regional tourney Axiata Cup, kahit talo tayo may laban din pala, natalo nga natin sa isang game ang Singapore at muntik na isang european player sa singles

    The last I recall who was doing well for the Philippines back in the 70's and 80's was Daniel So. Although I can't imagine how far he went with top competition like Liem Swie King of Indonesia - perhaps, the greatest player of his generation.
  • sa volleyball, wala ba?
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