Burning of Images -- I don't like it
Ateo
Non est Deus. Fac cum eo.
I saw this YouTube video showing a Christian group burning Catholic statues and images.
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While I don't like images, I dislike more the group's act of burning them. At the minimum, they damaged the road. Asphalt and concrete roads do get seriously damaged by fire, even burning tires. But more importantly, burning things is violent intolerance. It reminds us of the intolerance during the Dark Ages, driven by exhortations from Deuteronomy.
With the emergence of militant Evangelicalism, the RCC does not realize that there best ally are the secular society that frowns over militant religiosity.
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While I don't like images, I dislike more the group's act of burning them. At the minimum, they damaged the road. Asphalt and concrete roads do get seriously damaged by fire, even burning tires. But more importantly, burning things is violent intolerance. It reminds us of the intolerance during the Dark Ages, driven by exhortations from Deuteronomy.
With the emergence of militant Evangelicalism, the RCC does not realize that there best ally are the secular society that frowns over militant religiosity.
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may balot pa ng plastic mukang mga brand new. binili nila tapos susunugin lang at para i-provoke ang RCC.0
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Btw Ateo, you're supposed to be an atheist. This public burning should be no concern to you since they're all stones and wood anyway. What they did delivers far less damage than the RCC using their influence to block passage of the RH Bill.
When I was in high school, we were supposed to do some public burning of albums, CDs, comics, and VC Andrews novels about the supernatural and dark forces stuff. Several years later, we don't care.0 -
Btw Ateo, you're supposed to be an atheist. This public burning should be no concern to you since they're all stones and wood anyway. What they did delivers far less damage than the RCC using their influence to block passage of the RH Bill.
When I was in high school, we were supposed to do some public burning of albums, CDs, comics, and VC Andrews novels about the supernatural and dark forces stuff. Several years later, we don't care.
As I said, I don't like religions that start burning things. We don't know what they will end up with. Besides, it is bad for the environment and for the road.0 -
May "meaning" ang mga sacred images lalo na sa mga Katoliko.
Kahit ano pang sabihin nyong walang meaning yan, meron yan.
Want proof?
Sinong mas worse pa sa mga atheist (like si Ateo atheist kuno)?
Siguro hindi na kailangan pang tanungin yan ano...
Eh di mga Jihadis Supremcist Islamic Fanatic na yan...
Kung ang mga Ateo ay hindi naniniwala sa images at sa kanila nonsense ito... ano pa kaya ang mga mani at banimalek?
Pero sabi lang nila yun...
tamo nagpapatiwakal nga sila dahil lang sa imahe ni Muhammad sa Youtube eh.
Kung talagang tela, papel, semento, kahoy lang ang mga ito.. eh di sinabi nyo rin ba na nonsense ang pagsunog ng flag ng america? So what kung symbol ito ng USA? Ang mga images symbol din ng Catholicism na far superior sa paniniwala ng mga taong bumabastos dito... kita naman eh sa ugali nila karamihan mga iskwater alert...0 -
This is just an image.
Kung ang imahe ay talagang totally nothing.. no meaning.. nothing.
Bakit may ganito?
Nagpapatiwakal pa dahil sa drawing.
At least sa mga Katoliko kapag nakitang sinunog yan, walang nagpapatiwakal at nagsusunog ng flag, kasi nga mas superior kami sa paniniwala kaysa sa inyong lahat.0 -
tsk tsk ano kayang gagawin ng mga iyan sa susunod ang pumatay? katulad ng ginawa ng INK cult?0
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OT: Will Ateo be the next ROT moderator? - of course along with mooch.0
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Islam's prohibition against images is far more severe than even Fundy Xtians'. You can't even draw "God's" creations (e.g. scenes of nature... which is why Islamic art is all abstract), much less Allah's face or that of his so-called prophet.I sure hope they don't pull a stunt like that against Islam...
They COULD burn Korans though... and I now realize that Muslims are ultimately still guilty of idolatry. Rather than idolizing statues they idolize pieces of paper with writing on it. In fact, it would seem that Islam's prohibitions against idolatry backfired, and the human tendency to make idols of their beliefs just resurfaced in another form in Muslims and with great vengeance. Now, they would happily kill anyone who burns their "holy" book and draws caricatures of their prophets.
Buddhists, especially the Zen ones, are the ones who are most free of such attachments.0 -
Frank_Macky wrote: »Islam's prohibition against images is far more severe than even Fundy Xtians'. You can't even draw "God's" creations (e.g. scenes of nature... which is why Islamic art is all abstract), much less Allah's face or that of his so-called prophet.
They COULD burn Korans though... and I now realize that Muslims are ultimately still guilty of idolatry. Rather than idolizing statues they idolize pieces of paper with writing on it. In fact, it would seem that Islam's prohibitions against idolatry backfired, and the human tendency to make idols of their beliefs just resurfaced in another form in Muslims and with great vengeance. Now, they would happily kill anyone who burns their "holy" book and draws caricatures of their prophets.
Buddhists, especially the Zen ones, are the ones who are most free of such attachments.
Totoo po iyan, na mas sumasamba ang mga Muslim sa Diyos diyosang kanilang Propeta..sabi nga po sa Bible..Mas Pinahalagahan nila ang nilalang kaysa sa Lumalang. at heto pa:
Jeremias 17:5 Ganito ang sabi ng Panginoon: Sumpain ang tao na tumitiwala sa tao, at ginagawang laman ang kaniyang bisig, at ang puso ay humihiwalay sa Panginoon.
kahit hindi po kayo naniniwala sa Bible.0 -
Frank_Macky wrote: »Islam's prohibition against images is far more severe than even Fundy Xtians'. You can't even draw "God's" creations (e.g. scenes of nature... which is why Islamic art is all abstract), much less Allah's face or that of his so-called prophet.
They COULD burn Korans though... and I now realize that Muslims are ultimately still guilty of idolatry. Rather than idolizing statues they idolize pieces of paper with writing on it. In fact, it would seem that Islam's prohibitions against idolatry backfired, and the human tendency to make idols of their beliefs just resurfaced in another form in Muslims and with great vengeance. Now, they would happily kill anyone who burns their "holy" book and draws caricatures of their prophets.
Buddhists, especially the Zen ones, are the ones who are most free of such attachments.
I remember the xtian girl who was jailed (probably headed for execution) because she allegedly burned pages from a Koran and then later it was revealed that the imam was the one who put the burnt pages there and so he was put to jail as well.
Makes me wonder if the xtian group in that video treats the bible (the physical book) differently as well.0 -
Christian groups are outwardly saner, mainly because they have to operate within the confines and regulations of a secular state. You could probably write a book detailing the interesting parallels and differences between the historical politico-social evolution of these two Abrahamic religions: Islam and Christianity.I remember the xtian girl who was jailed (probably headed for execution) because she allegedly burned pages from a Koran and then later it was revealed that the imam was the one who put the burnt pages there and so he was put to jail as well.
Makes me wonder if the xtian group in that video treats the bible (the physical book) differently as well.
My own reading of history is that early Americans, even though a sizable portion of them were very religious, had a strong anti-theocratic streak because they could see the terrible abuses that a heavily religion-influenced government could lead to (e.g. in England and the other European states). So much so that in establishing their republic, they made sure that there were constitutional guarantees preventing the State from favoring any religion. In practice, because the vast majority of theistic Americans belonged to one or another Christian denomination, violations of such constitutional provisions were overlooked or were deemed to be practice of "tradition" rather than any specific religion.
In recent years, however, the polarization between secular and theistic ideals have become far more evident and actions that were previously overlooked are now starting to be challenged. You could say this is in part due to the rise of the political influence of the so-called Religious Right during the Reagan era, which essentially provoked an "immune response" from other Americans who don't care for religion.
It is starting to become blatantly obvious that Protestant Fundamentalists in the US would like to see their government leaning more towards theocracy and that obviously causes great concern among Americans who don't share the same beliefs and ideas as these xtians.0 -
Most of the early Americans (including several founding fathers) were Freemasons and did not want their religious views (which were mostly not aligned with any religion) repressed. They would probably be described as more pantheistic than Christian.
Heck, the "political conservatives" of those times (the Know-Nothings, for example) even threw a gift from the Pope intended for the Washington Monument down to the Potomac. Although it can be argued that it was a similar anti-Catholic sentiment, they weren't burning down actual religious symbols, just something they believe would imply Catholics trying to gift their way into the state.0 -
manubol_rama wrote: »i fear that this might start an interstellar war between us humans and ancient astronauts. if burning the pioneer aliens' images is not provocation, i dont know what is.
activate the arcnet! quick!
Ala-Clash of the Titans ba? 0 -
Not to mention that evangelicals are supposed to take their cue from the New Testament rather than the Old.I saw this YouTube video showing a Christian group burning Catholic statues and images.
[video=youtube_share;ge3OArICGeo]
While I don't like images, I dislike more the group's act of burning them. At the minimum, they damaged the road. Asphalt and concrete roads do get seriously damaged by fire, even burning tires. But more importantly, burning things is violent intolerance. It reminds us of the intolerance during the Dark Ages, driven by exhortations from Deuteronomy.
With the emergence of militant Evangelicalism, the RCC does not realize that there best ally are the secular society that frowns over militant religiosity.0
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