34. PHILIPPINE MOVIE QUEENSHIP RIVALRY: A Thing Of The Past?

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  • MONTO GAWEMONTO GAWE Primus Inter Pares Pares PExer
    TS,ok lang yun.naiintindihan ko.:-)..bow ako sa'yo.ang sipag mong TS :-)

    If that's a compliment, thank you.

    Let's just say I have time to spare while reading the book about Movie Queenship. Or until 12 October.
    renz7 wrote: »
    pwede pero kung titingnan mo ang dekada 70, loaded din naman. di lang naman sina nora at vilma ang sikat non, biglang sobrang sikat din sina alma moreno, may rio locsin pa, may lorna t. may hilda koronel. sino pa ba? but only nora at vilma emerged as the movie queens.

    nong dekada otsenta, sharon and maricel at sandamakmak na regal babies, seiko jewels. ito ang dekada na sobrang dami din ang sikat at namayagpag pa sina nora at vilma. pero maricel and sharon emerged as movie queens.

    sina judy ann at claudine ang natirang matibay nong last half of dekada 90. may angelu, may jolina. sino pa ba?

    ngayon, parang hindi na ganun ka solid. watak watak na rin kasi at wala pang hiraman ng artista dahil sa network war.

    True. Competition abounds, then as now, yet Nora, Vilma, Sharon, Maricel and other Movie Queens managed to rise above them.

    The right questions then are: why and how?

    More telling is: If they did so in the past, why not in this era (2006-2015?

    Technological advances resulting to change in fan mentality; faster turn-over hence 'they don't make stars like them anymore'; or indeed, One-on-One rivalry is a thing of the past.
  • wedding_peachwedding_peach Archer/ Patriot PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    MONTO AWE wrote: »
    If that's a compliment, thank you.

    Let's just say I have time to spare while reading the book about Movie Queenship. Or until 12 October.
    ~that's a compliment Ts :-).you're very much welcome :-)..pardon me if i'm addressing you lang as Ts,naaaliw kasi ako sa Ts.hehehe..if you don't mind, ask ko lang kung anong era ang inabutan mo noon?hehe..by the way,dami kong nalalaman dahil sa mga researches mo.yung ibang mga artista nga di ko kilala.haha


    True. Competition abounds, then as now, yet Nora, Vilma, Sharon, Maricel and other Movie Queens managed to rise above them.

    The right questions then are: why and how?

    More telling is: If they did so in the past, why not in this era (2006-2015?

    Technological advances resulting to change in fan mentality; faster turn-over hence 'they don't make stars like them anymore'; or indeed, One-on-One rivalry is a thing of the past.

    ~
    ~personally,wala akong concrete idea.wala kasi ako ng mga panahong yan.hehe..hmm.siguro mas "visible" lang competitions noon kaysa ngayon.mas madami lang din siguro ang mga sikat na naglalaban ngayon kaya wala masyadong tensyon..may diversity ng artists.may diversity ng mga fans..yung aggressiveness ng mga fans ng dalawang kampong magkalaban noon,mas watak ngayon dahil sa dami ng magkakakumpetensya.hindi sila nakatuon sa isang kalaban lang.parang every artist is a threat.unlike before,isa lang talaga ang target mo..there are times pa nagkakampihan ang mga fans ng magkaibang artists laban sa isang artist..pero baka ganun din naman noon.i really dont know.hehe
  • renz7renz7 Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    tisoyti75 wrote: »
    natumbok mo,, so hindi naman ganun ka obvious na biased sya hikhikhik

    talagang bias si mang hernando lol! he made a fool of himself lol!
  • 32EEL32EEL Vengeful Spirit PExer
    renz7 wrote: »
    the title of kris will not last. di pangmatagalan at tingin ko di rin click. parang naging title ni sharon din kasi dati na multi media queen. pwede kay sarah, pwede kay toni g. so parang walang dating ang sa akin kay kris. gumawa lang sila ng title para magka title.

    siguro naubusan na sila ng title dahil so far hanggang diamond star lang nagwakas ang mga title na nag click.

    si judy ann, young superstar. ngayon di na siya young.. wala na siyang title. teleserye queen parang di pang movie queen.

    iyong optimum star ni claudine,heto ang maganda pakinggan.. sayang lang parang di masyadong nag click ng husto?

    Fans lang naman yata ni Claudine dito sa PEx ang tumawag sa kaniya ng ganiyang title.
  • renz7renz7 Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    32EEL wrote: »
    Fans lang naman yata ni Claudine dito sa PEx ang tumawag sa kaniya ng ganiyang title.

    pag ini introduce din siya dati sa mga shows.. tinatawag na siyang optimum star. sayang at di talaga nagamit ng husto dahil ito ang title na may dating. hopefully she comes back to abs cbn to regain her queenship.

    fans and handlers of judy ann must think hard of a title na akmang akma sa kanya. the teleserye queen should be one of her titles but not her main title.
  • @sharon_cuneta12@sharon_cuneta12 The one and only. :-) PExer
    Sino sa kanila ang next Movie Queen?

    Bea, Anne, KC, Angel


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  • renz7renz7 Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐

    they are all beautiful. like them all.

    sina bea, anne and angel.. as moviestars.. pasadong pasado sila.

    kc needs to step up. kay jlc kasi dapat ang sunod niyang project para in agad uli. pwede ding sigurong gawan sila ng movies. sama si angelica p.
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    Bea
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    Wala pa akong alam na mag cover ni anne but since tatlo silang bet ko, samahan ko na rin ng old mag cover

    Anne
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  • loida_veranoloida_verano Member Clay Court Specialist
    pan8iki wrote: »
    kris aquino is dubbed as the queen of all media which means she is higher than a movie queen.

    i think nora aunor and sharon cuneta deserves more to be called as such coz they cover all media.....multi-media artist.next in line could be sarah geronimo and toni g.



    ^^^nauna na si Nora Aunor na maging Queen of All Media, pero syempre iba na ngayon ang panahon.

    di ba para maging Queen of All Media, na-conquer mo lahat ng avenues, kasama ang movies, tv, recording, concerts, endorsements(tv, prints, magazine covers), radio, and ang stage...sa nabanggit ko,
    hindi pa naeexplore ni Kris Aquino ang stage play.....tanging si Nora Aunor lang ang nakagawa ng lahat ng nabanggit ko....

    tingin ko nag isip lang sila ng maibibigay na titulo ke Kris not thinking na hindi naman lahat na-cover ni Kristeta....
  • loida_veranoloida_verano Member Clay Court Specialist
    sa tanong kung bakit andito pa rin si Nora, Vilma, Maricel and Sharon, ito lang ang sagot: talento!
  • loida_veranoloida_verano Member Clay Court Specialist
    nun isang gabi, napanuod ko ang Alyas Baby Tsina ni Ate Vi sa Cinema One. 1984 ito pinalabas sa mga sinehan kasabay ng Condemned ni Ate Guy. year 1984 pinalabas ang Sa Hirap at Ginhawa at ang Dapat Ka Bang Mahalin ni Sharon at ang Sister Stella L ni Ate Vi at ang 'Merika at Bulaklak sa City Jail ni Ate Guy at ang Kaya Kong Abutin ang Langit ni Maricel.

    napansin ko lang puro pala heavyweights na movies at aktingan ang labanan nun 1985 award season.....
  • renz7renz7 Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    nun isang gabi, napanuod ko ang Alyas Baby Tsina ni Ate Vi sa Cinema One. 1984 ito pinalabas sa mga sinehan kasabay ng Condemned ni Ate Guy. year 1984 pinalabas ang Sa Hirap at Ginhawa at ang Dapat Ka Bang Mahalin ni Sharon at ang Sister Stella L ni Ate Vi at ang 'Merika at Bulaklak sa City Jail ni Ate Guy at ang Kaya Kong Abutin ang Langit ni Maricel.

    napansin ko lang puro pala heavyweights na movies at aktingan ang labanan nun 1985 award season.....

    among the movies na binanggit mong pinalabas nong 1984 (ang gaganda hehe), tanging sa hirap at ginhawa lang ang napanood ko. iyong kaya kong abutin ang langit di ko pa rin napapanood hanggang ngayon. tingin mo ba may laban din ang kaya kong abutin ang langit ni maricel? o sadyang matindi kasi ang mga movies nina nora at vilma that year. siguro kung hinugot sa langit ang pinalabas nong 1984, tingin ko lalaban si maricel na walang kaduda duda.
  • renz7renz7 Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    ^^^nauna na si Nora Aunor na maging Queen of All Media, pero syempre iba na ngayon ang panahon.

    di ba para maging Queen of All Media, na-conquer mo lahat ng avenues, kasama ang movies, tv, recording, concerts, endorsements(tv, prints, magazine covers), radio, and ang stage...sa nabanggit ko,
    hindi pa naeexplore ni Kris Aquino ang stage play.....tanging si Nora Aunor lang ang nakagawa ng lahat ng nabanggit ko....

    tingin ko nag isip lang sila ng maibibigay na titulo ke Kris not thinking na hindi naman lahat na-cover ni Kristeta....

    kaya nga sabi ko hindi magki click ang queen of all media na title na iyan dahil meron at merong kukuha ng titulong iyan. di mag stick sa isang artista lang. hindi siya ganun ka unique.
  • MONTO GAWEMONTO GAWE Primus Inter Pares Pares PExer
    At this juncture, I believe, that we have a consensus or, at least, a nodding acceptance, of what makes a Movie Queen. (I will reserve my summary for later.)

    For academic purposes and this forum’s discussion, let’s assume that the CRITERIA in our POLL are the BASIC INGREDIENTS to Determine and Crown a Movie Queen.

    Coupled with our collective sense of judgment, a good number of industry lists plus an input from the academe make us relatively conclude and agree that the following are indeed Movie Queens:
    Gloria Romero
    Nida Blanca
    Susan Roces
    Amalia Fuentes
    Nora Aunor
    Vilma Santos
    Sharon Cuneta
    Maricel Soriano
    Judy Ann Santos
    Claudine Barretto

    As for the Pre-War Movie Queens, my knowledge is limited as to their contribution. I’d guess that not a few are asking ‘who are they?’ too. Either we are too lazy to investigate further; the industry is too ungrateful or forgetful to glorify their accomplishments; or there is simply not enough materials available to regular filmgoers.

    As for the other contemporary worthies: Kris Aquino, Rosanna Roces, Alma Moreno, Lorna Tolentino, Regine Velasquez and Ai-ai de las Alas. Let’s just say that for now, they are NOTED.

    --

    Having said that let us use the career paths of the 10 Movie Queens as the Benchmark for the Next Movie Queen.
  • MONTO GAWEMONTO GAWE Primus Inter Pares Pares PExer
    One obvious but least discussed aspect of a Movie Queen is her age. This becomes CRITICAL when one considers the AGE GAP among Movie Queens from one era to the next.

    I made a crude study and here’s the result in tabular format:

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    Now, using the result of this observation, we can deduce that:

    1) The rival Movie Queens are relatively of the same age;
    2) There is, at least, an average 11 years Gap between the Median Ages of rival Movie Queens from 2 consecutive eras;
    3) The Next Movie Queens should/may be born in 1989 or thereabouts.

    --

    Now, of course, this is not foolproof but is only a predictive way to narrow down the list.

    The next step would be find out who among the Ladies-In-Waiting, in a manner of speaking, were born around that year.
  • MONTO GAWEMONTO GAWE Primus Inter Pares Pares PExer
    Based on ‘mentions’ in this Thread, the following are the The-Next-In-Line:
    Angel Locsin –18
    Bea Alonzo –16
    Anne Curtis –14
    Sarah Geronimo - 8
    Angelica Panganiban - 7
    Marian Rivera - 6
    Kim Chiu - 4
    Toni Gonzaga - 3
    Erich Gonzales - 2
    Maja Salvador - 1


    But to level the playing field and cover all bases, I believe, it would be prudent to expand the list and include more. (Besides the age gap could be as narrow as 6 years or as wide as 13 years.) In alphabetical order:
    Angel Locsin 1985
    Angelica Panganiban 1986
    Anne Curtis 1985
    Bea Alonzo 1987
    Erich Gonzales 1990
    Heart Evangelista 1985
    Iza Calzado 1982
    Jennylyn Mercado 1987
    KC Concepcion 1985
    Kim Chiu 1990
    Kris Bernal 1989
    Kristine Hermosa 1983
    Lovi Poe 1989
    Maja Salvador 1988
    Marian Rivera 1984
    Rhian Ramos 1990
    Sarah Geronimo 1988
    Toni Gonzaga 1984


    I’d appreciate comments/suggestions/modifications regarding above list. Thanks.
  • loida_veranoloida_verano Member Clay Court Specialist
    MONTO GAWE wrote: »
    At this juncture, I believe, that we have a consensus or, at least, a nodding acceptance, of what makes a Movie Queen. (I will reserve my summary for later.)

    For academic purposes and this forum’s discussion, let’s assume that the CRITERIA in our POLL are the BASIC INGREDIENTS to Determine and Crown a Movie Queen.

    Coupled with our collective sense of judgment, a good number of industry lists plus an input from the academe make us relatively conclude and agree that the following are indeed Movie Queens:
    Gloria Romero
    Nida Blanca
    Susan Roces
    Amalia Fuentes
    Nora Aunor
    Vilma Santos
    Sharon Cuneta
    Maricel Soriano
    Judy Ann Santos
    Claudine Barretto

    As for the Pre-War Movie Queens, my knowledge is limited as to their contribution. I’d guess that not a few are asking ‘who are they?’ too. Either we are too lazy to investigate further; the industry is too ungrateful or forgetful to glorify their accomplishments; or there is simply not enough materials available to regular filmgoers.

    As for the other contemporary worthies: Kris Aquino, Rosanna Roces, Alma Moreno, Lorna Tolentino, Regine Velasquez and Ai-ai de las Alas. Let’s just say that for now, they are NOTED.

    --

    Having said that let us use the career paths of the 10 Movie Queens as the Benchmark for the Next Movie Queen.



    ^^^prior to Gloria Romero and Nida Blanca's dominance, there was Ms. Carmen Rosales. I think, sya ang kauna unahang tinaguriang Movie Queen.....yun lang, hindi ko alam lung sino ang kanyang karibal sa kasikatan noong time nya.....
  • MONTO GAWEMONTO GAWE Primus Inter Pares Pares PExer


    While you are thinking who should or should not be included in the above-list, here's a thespic spectacle that might help you decide who really, among the 18 listed, has what it takes to be called an artist in the truest sense of the word.
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