34. PHILIPPINE MOVIE QUEENSHIP RIVALRY: A Thing Of The Past?

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  • MONTO GAWEMONTO GAWE Primus Inter Pares Pares PExer
    Marichu Vera-Perez: Nililikha ng masa, hinihirang ng madla, popular na idolo na iniluklok sa pedestal sa pamamagitan ng walang sawang pagtangkilik ng mga ito sa kaniyang pelikula.

    Inday Badiday: Isa siyang bukod-tanging idolo na may malaking impluwensiya sa kanyang fans, ang bawat galaw niya ay talagang tulad ng reyna inaantabayanan.

    Ethel Ramos: May malakas siyang persona na kagigiliwan ng press at mamahaling fans tulad ng isang mabangong produkto.

    Mother Lily: Hinuhubog ng kani-kaniyang panahon. Ganda, talino at higit sa lahat kakayahang magdala ng pelikula na kikita at mag-aakyat ng karangalan sa prodyuser.

    Armida Siguion-Reyna: Isang espesyal na pag-aari na inaamo upang balangkasin ang magagandang pelikulang para lamang sa kanya. Nakapamimili siya ng director, artista at iskriprayter na makakasama sa pelikula.

    Susan Roces (Gumising ka Maruja): The movie queen does not fade away. She simply rests to give way to others to shine.


    Source:

    Movie Queen: Pagbuo Ng Mito At Kapangyarihang Kultural Ng Babae Sa Lipunan
  • wedding_peachwedding_peach Archer/ Patriot PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    If I will base it on the artists' strengths and weaknesses,ganito ang rivalries ko:
    ~angel vs marian- strength: versatility
    weakness: other media like music(pero si marian,may dance album naman)
    ~anne vs bea-
    strength: sexy,daring actresses
    weakness: other media like music(pero may gold album si bea at platinum album si anne at soldout concert,pero more pa sana)
    ~sarah vs toni-
    strength: multimedia stars
    weakness: acting awards
  • wedding_peachwedding_peach Archer/ Patriot PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    MONTO GAWE wrote: »
    There is NO QUESTION that there is Universal and Unanimous Acclaim and Acceptance about the Movie Queenship of the BIG 4.

    As to who among the Big 4 is the Greatest is a matter of opinion.

    One group would definitely have something to say and another group will outdo that claim and vice-versa ad infinitum.

    And besides, that Topic has been rehashed a million times over and no group has moved one inch from where they are standing. Let’s leave it at that.

    para sa'kin ba'to ts?hehe..innocent question lang naman po yun.pwede naman sigurong sumagot ang mga fans ng di makakapagsimula ng away..kasi,personally,gusto ko talaga malaman ang sagot kasi hindi ko talaga alam..facts naman po ang hinihingi ko,hindi opinion hehe.
  • MONTO GAWEMONTO GAWE Primus Inter Pares Pares PExer
    ^Truth to tell, I also want to KNOW the ANSWERS to your QUESTIONS.

    Paalala lang yung sa akin para sa LAHAT kasi baka maghalo ang balat sa tinalupan pag-sumugod ang sangkaterbang 'COPY-PASTE' brigade dito.

    HOWEVER, like you, I believe that if we can objectively and factly state our data without prejudice or bias then all the better.

    Sensya na kung nasagi ka ng di sinasadya.
  • ztiltzkinztiltzkin Aspiring FA PExer
    MONTO GAWE wrote: »
    Is there Universal and Unanimous Acclaim and Acceptance of Judy Ann or Claudine as Movie Queens?

    If none, where did they fall short?


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    An argument has been forwarded that both Judy Ann and Claudine while undeniably stars in their own right with their hit teleseryes and considerable box-office power have not reached the pinnacle of being a Movie Queen.

    To some they are better and rightfully regarded as TV Queens, while others counter that they are real Movie Queens.

    What's your take?

    Opinion ko lang po ha. Parang ang rude naman sabihin na "almost" lang ang pagiging "Movie Queen" ni Juday and Clau. Hindi binibilang sa BOQ awards yan, tignan niyo yung mga movies nila na mahigit 100 M pesos. Tignan din yung inflation rate or kung magkano yung tickets noon. Ang natatandaan ko kay Judy Ann yung movie niya na Isusumbong ko sa tatay ko with FPJ yun yung unang nag 100M sa kasaysayan ng movie undustry, then si Clau naman naka dalawang BOQ awards at yung ibang movie niya naka abot din ng 100M.


    Mga Movie Queens para saken based on popularity and kita sa pelikula not by LUCK

    Nora
    Vilma
    Sharon

    Juday
    Clau

    Bea
    Sarah
    Anne

    nothing follows
  • MONTO GAWEMONTO GAWE Primus Inter Pares Pares PExer
    With all due respect, based on the above criteria enumerated in the POLL and the lists from the academic world, perhaps, the most stinging observations that can be said of Judy Ann and Claudine’s claim to Movie Queenship are the following:

    1) No Staying Power
    2) Not Enough Relevant Body of Work

    STAYING POWER: They have no defined era where they dominated the Box-Office and the Acting Awards.

    RELEVANT BODY OF WORK: Aside from Ploning & Sabel for Judy Ann and Milan & Anak for Claudine, there aren’t enough movies that made a lasting cultural impact and which influenced a generation’s mores and way of thinking.


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    There is NO QUESTION how big a draw Judy Ann and Claudine were during their prime. Nor is there any problem with their superb thespic skills.

    In fact, not a few, would contend that both SHOULD BE regarded as Movie Queens.

    While others like the author of the aforementioned book believes that only Judy Ann should be considered as such.


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    Hence, it would be prudent to consider Mother Lily’s definition of a Movie Queen:

    “Hinuhubog ng kani-kaniyang panahon. Ganda, talino at higit sa lahat kakayahang magdala ng pelikula na kikita at mag-aakyat ng karangalan sa prodyuser.”

    During their time (1995-2005), the advances in technology leaped, the industry changed from Movie Studio System to TV Network System, reality TV shows proliferated and other critical factors. All these perhaps changed the paradigm as to how the masses/filmgoers/fans relate with their Idols/Stars.

    As a result, the turn-over of affection or adulation was faster. Every other year, a Wannabe or Nobody became an overnight sensation. Most of whom though went out as fast as they came. But a relative few managed to stay and changed the playing field: Angel Locsin, Bea Alonzo, Anne Curtis, Marian Rivera, Kim Chiu, Sarah Geronimo among others.

    In the Box-Office, there were Major Stars who managed to claim supremacy during that era (1995-2005), aside from the Big Four who were also still reigning in the Acting Awards, the following formidable Stars diluted the hold of Judy Ann and Claudine in the Box-Office: Kris Aquino, Regine Velasquez, Rosanna Roces and Ai-ai de las Alas. (Further, have they already carried a movie on their own without a LOVE TEAM or BOX-OFFICE STAR as PARTNER?)

    And lastly, perhaps, it is too early in the day, but few academic citations are made about their rivalry. There is almost non-existent pop culture reference about either in songs, other movies or other media. Nor are they frequently mentioned as role-models by upcoming stars or young children who dream of becoming stars someday. And lastly, not one line famous enough for the common tao to spew out to give their statement some punch, humor or levity.

    Ayoko Ng Mabaho, Ayoko Ng Putik. Hindi Kita Uurungan, Magpasabi Ka Lang Kung Kelan o Saan. Kung Hindi Ngayon, Kelan. Walang Himala.


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    So, are they or aren’t they? To their fans, they are. To an unbiased observer, they may or may not be.

    So there hangs the question: JUDY ANN/CLAUDINE: Almost Movie Queen Status?

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    Perhaps, time will tell. In the meantime, let’s have more opinions.
  • MONTO GAWEMONTO GAWE Primus Inter Pares Pares PExer
    Batay sa listahan ng mga Pangangailangan Upang Matawag na Movie Queen at Pagsasalarawan kung ano ang Movie Queen, ayon sa May-akda ng Movie Queen: Pagbuo Ng Mito At Kapangyarihang Kultural Ng Babae Sa Lipunan ang mga sumusunod ay mga itinuturing na Movie Queens:

    Pre-War Movie Queens
    Chananay
    Atang de la Rama
    Lila Luna
    Rosa del Rosario
    Rosa del Rio
    Carmen Rosales
    Alicia Vergel

    Post-War Movie Queens
    Gloria Romero
    Nida Blanca
    Susan Roces
    Amalia Fuentes
    Nora Aunor
    Vilma Santos
    Sharon Cuneta
    Maricel Soriano
    Rosanna Roces
    Kris Aquino
    Judy Ann Santos

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    Ang mga sumusunod ay “mga artistang maaring maging movie queen xxx na nagkamit na rin ng mga parangal at may magandang build-up ng imahe mula sa mga prodyuser ngunit hindi nila naabot ang kasikatang ibinigay ng fans”:

    1950s – Charito Solis, Rosa Rosal, Lolita Rodriguez, Rita Gomez
    1960s – Helen Gamboa, Rosemarie Sonora, Gina Pareno
    1970s – Lorna Tolentino, Rio Locsin, Alma Moreno
    1990s – Claudine Barretto, Jolina Magdangal

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    Sa aking palagay, maaari rin idagdag ang mga sumusunod

    1970s - Hilda Koronel
    1980s - Snooky
    1990s - Dawn Zulueta, Gretchen Barretto
    2000s – Kristine Hermosa


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    NOTA BENE:

    The book was published in 2007.
  • renz7renz7 Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    itlogmo2 wrote: »
    Hindi ba si Rosanna Roces ang Box Office queen noong 1997 and 1998 at
    si Judy Ann ay Box Office Queen noong 1999??

    hindi yata binigyan si rosanna din ng boq kasi bold star siya lol! kaya galit yata si rosanna kay mang gimo lol!
  • renz7renz7 Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    MONTO GAWE wrote: »
    Batay sa listahan ng mga Pangangailangan Upang Matawag na Movie Queen at Pagsasalarawan kung ano ang Movie Queen, ayon sa May-akda ng Movie Queen: Pagbuo Ng Mito At Kapangyarihang Kultural Ng Babae Sa Lipunan ang mga sumusunod ay mga itinuturing na Movie Queens:

    Pre-War Movie Queens
    Chananay
    Rosa del Rosario
    Rosa del Rio
    Carmen Rosales
    Alicia Vergel

    Post-War Movie Queens
    Gloria Romero
    Nida Blanca
    Susan Roces
    Amalia Fuentes
    Nora Aunor
    Vilma Santos
    Sharon Cuneta
    Maricel Soriano
    Rosanna Roces
    Kris Aquino
    Judy Ann Santos

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    Ang mga sumusunod ay “mga artistang maaring maging movie queen xxx na nagkamit na rin ng mga parangal at may magandang build-up ng imahe mula sa mga prodyuser ngunit hindi nila naabot ang kasikatang ibinigay ng fans”:

    1950s – Charito Solis, Rosa Rosal, Lolita Rodriguez, Rita Gomez
    1960s – Helen Gamboa, Rosemarie Sonora, Gina Pareno
    1970s – Lorna Tolentino, Rio Locsin, Alma Moreno
    1990s – Claudine Barretto, Jolina Magdangal

    --

    Sa aking palagay, maaari rin idagdag ang mga sumusunod

    1970s - Hilda Koronel
    1980s - Snooky
    1990s - Dawn Zulueta, Gretchen Barretto
    2000s – Kristine Hermosa


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    NOTA BENE:

    The book was published in 2007.

    i dont think, pwedeng sabihing movie queen si rosanna roces. ni hindi nga narating ni alma moreno ang movie queenship.

    same with kris aquino. i like her but she is not a movie queen. she will never be a movie queen pero sikat siya. sikat na sikat.
  • renz7renz7 Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    May i ask,kailan unang nagkaroon ng acting award ang mga ito?nora,vilma,sharon,maricel,juday at claudine?gaano katagal na sila sa industry nung nagkaroon ng acting award?...at between rivalries,sino ang unang nagkaroon ng acting award at sino ang mas marami?nora vs vilma,sharon vs maricel,juday vs claudine..thanks...edit: sino din unang nagkaroon ng boq award at mas marami sa bawat magkaribal?

    maricel got her first acting award nong 1983/1984 as best supporting actress in saan darating ang umaga sa famas. 17 years old pa lang siya.

    sharon got her first acting awards (best actress) nong 1984/1985 pero naging kontrobersiyal ang mga awards na ito dahil tinalo niya ang mga acting heavyweights na sina nora at vilma.
  • MONTO GAWE wrote: »
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    Still incomplete but substantial enough for interpretation.

    What's your take?

    Akala ko dita sa sarah ang youngest na naging boq pero sabi ng kilala ko na taga starcinema si bea daw ang alam nilang youngest boq.

    Come to think of it, 9 months lang ang tanda ni bea kay sarah at kung isang taon ang pagitan ng boq, then tama nga na si bea ang youngest boq sa generation nila.

    But apart from the boq, ang magka level talaga for queenship are angel, anne and bea. Acting, fanbase at impact of their roles to people.

    Sa past history ng queen, wala naman dyan ang marunong kumanta at concert performers aside from sharon at nora but still they were hailed as queens not because of their singing abilities or inabilities for that matter hehe. Take for example vilma, claudine and judy ann, pag arte ang puhunan nila bakit sila tinawag na queens of their generation. Kaya pwede wag pasukan ng concert, album at multi media ek ek ang thread na to para lang ma insist na queen ang idol nyo. Base nyo na lang sa past queens kung ano ang pinakita nila bakit sila nabansagan na reyna.

    Queens before 2000: vilma, nora, maricel and sharon.

    Queens of 2000-2010: judy ann and claudine

    Queens of 2010 and beyond: angel, anne and bea.
  • lopcinimodlopcinimod Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    well for now i think:

    1. angel locsin- reyna ng gma, one of the biggest stars ng abs. she's the only emmy- nominated actress of her generation, at siya lang ata among her contemporaries ang may ani ng dangal multimedia award from malaca?ang. and take note, siya lang ang binigyan ng red carpet treatment ng asap nung winelcome siya which defines her status. halos lahat yata ng leading man ngayon siya ang pinapangarap na leading lady like coco, derek, zanjoe, etc. mulawin, darna, majika, asian treasures, lobo, only you and imortal are big, big hits.lobo is to date the biggest selling teleserye dvd, imortal has the most visitors when it comes to teleserye websites. i will always love you, unofficially yours and in the name of love are 100M+. may misses nga lang gaya ng angels 6M, mano po 5- 30M at sa star cinema ang lowest niya is love me again, 72M based on yes! magazine.sa fanbase, no doubt 2x sa fhm, 5x sa starmometer, etc....need i say more?

    2. bea alonzo- she is the queen of star magic. she is their biggest female star. eversince siya talaga ang close fight kay angel kahit na sa gma pa ito. the mistress is undeniably one of the biggest and best films to date. 300M is 300M. it might be you, maging sino ka man 1 and 2, betty la fea are big hits, too. sa films, may one more chance siya, Miss You Like Crazy na lumagpas 100M. kaya lang, yung pacquiao the movie-4M and dreamboy are not well-received by fans. no problem, kahit hindi siya singer eh gold ang album niya.

    3. anne curtis- actually, for the last two years lang siya sumikat nang husto, she is a slow-rising but a no doubt, big star. no other woman may be her only hit but it was a big, big hit na lagpas pa nga 200M.kaya niyang punuin ang araneta, platinum ang album kahit hindi siya singer talaga. she is one of the prettiest, she's twitter's most followed filipino celeb, she is a darling of the crowd.
    pero.... hindi siya tv star, dyosa, green rose, the wedding, im sorry but for me lang ha, the roles are forgettable, mas tumatatak siya kapag supporting like in hiram and maging sino ka man.
  • lopcinimod wrote: »
    well for now i think:

    1. angel locsin- reyna ng gma, one of the biggest stars ng abs. she's the only emmy- nominated actress of her generation, at siya lang ata among her contemporaries ang may ani ng dangal multimedia award from malaca?ang. and take note, siya lang ang binigyan ng red carpet treatment ng asap nung winelcome siya which defines her status. halos lahat yata ng leading man ngayon siya ang pinapangarap na leading lady like coco, derek, zanjoe, etc. mulawin, darna, majika, asian treasures, lobo, only you and imortal are big, big hits.lobo is to date the biggest selling teleserye dvd, imortal has the most visitors when it comes to teleserye websites. i will always love you, unofficially yours and in the name of love are 100M+. may misses nga lang gaya ng angels 6M, mano po 5- 30M at sa star cinema ang lowest niya is love me again, 72M based on yes! magazine.sa fanbase, no doubt 2x sa fhm, 5x sa starmometer, etc....need i say more?

    2. bea alonzo- she is the queen of star magic. she is their biggest female star. eversince siya talaga ang close fight kay angel kahit na sa gma pa ito. the mistress is undeniably one of the biggest and best films to date. 300M is 300M. it might be you, maging sino ka man 1 and 2, betty la fea are big hits, too. sa films, may one more chance siya, Miss You Like Crazy na lumagpas 100M. kaya lang, yung pacquiao the movie-4M and dreamboy are not well-received by fans. no problem, kahit hindi siya singer eh gold ang album niya.

    3. anne curtis- actually, for the last two years lang siya sumikat nang husto, she is a slow-rising but a no doubt, big star. no other woman may be her only hit but it was a big, big hit na lagpas pa nga 200M.kaya niyang punuin ang araneta, platinum ang album kahit hindi siya singer talaga. she is one of the prettiest, she's twitter's most followed filipino celeb, she is a darling of the crowd.
    pero.... hindi siya tv star, dyosa, green rose, the wedding, im sorry but for me lang ha, the roles are forgettable, mas tumatatak siya kapag supporting like in hiram and maging sino ka man.

    Ayan dumadami na ang nakaka realize kung sino talaga ang queens of this generation at hindi product of hype lang.

    Keber kung di magaling kumanta ang tatlong yan, di naman pinaguusapan ang concert queen kundi movie queens. Sino ba ang artista sa generation ngayon ang tumatatak ang role at nagiging word of mouth ang mga quotable quotes.

    By the way, dati di ko alam meaning ng sabaw, nalaman ko lang dahil nanood ako ng unofficially yours. That alone, may na impart sa buhay ko yung movie hehe.
  • pan8ikipan8iki Member PExer
    renz7 wrote: »
    i dont think, pwedeng sabihing movie queen si rosanna roces. ni hindi nga narating ni alma moreno ang movie queenship.

    same with kris aquino. i like her but she is not a movie queen. she will never be a movie queen pero sikat siya. sikat na sikat.


    kris aquino is dubbed as the queen of all media which means she is higher than a movie queen.

    i think nora aunor and sharon cuneta deserves more to be called as such coz they cover all media.....multi-media artist.next in line could be sarah geronimo and toni g.
  • wedding_peachwedding_peach Archer/ Patriot PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    TS,ok lang yun.naiintindihan ko.:-)..bow ako sa'yo.ang sipag mong TS :-)
    @renz- wow,bata pa pala nagka-acting award na si maricel..yung kay sharon,sa BWN ba yun?1985 kasi ako pinanganak e.yun yata yung movie niya ng mga panahong yan?
    ~ploning ba ang 1st acting award ni juday?
  • renz7renz7 Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    pan8iki wrote: »
    kris aquino is dubbed as the queen of all media which means she is higher than a movie queen.

    i think nora aunor and sharon cuneta deserves more to be called as such coz they cover all media.....multi-media artist.next in line could be sarah geronimo and toni g.

    queen of all media is not higher than a movie queen in my opinion. kris has limited success in the movies. massacre and horror movies and her tsamba acting awards sa mano po 1 (which in my opinion nadala lang sa hype but there is nothing spectacular don sa acting niya lol! improvement big yes, but acting awards? no lol!). kris for me is a part time moviestar hehe. but i really like her as a host. she's the best in this category at kaya kong tapusin ang show sa kadadakdak niya and not get bored. lol!

    makakalimutan ang pangalan ni kris when her time to fade comes, but the real movie queens will always be mentioned in showbiz history especially ang apat na movie queens, nora, vilma, sharon and maricel.
  • renz7renz7 Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    TS,ok lang yun.naiintindihan ko.:-)..bow ako sa'yo.ang sipag mong TS :-)
    @renz- wow,bata pa pala nagka-acting award na si maricel..yung kay sharon,sa BWN ba yun?1985 kasi ako pinanganak e.yun yata yung movie niya ng mga panahong yan?
    ~ploning ba ang 1st acting award ni juday?

    dalawa ang movies ni sharon nong 1984 kng saan nanalo siya ng best actress awards.. dapat ka bang mahalin at sa hirap at ginhawa. kalaban yata nito ay ang sister stella l ni vilma at bulaklak ng city jail ni nora. correct me if i am wrong.
  • baklah_akobaklah_ako Account Suspended by Admin PExer
    If you want to be a queen nowadays and in the future, you should be a big star in ABSCBN.

    Else, reyna ka na langs a mga singit-singit na kalsada/avenues/baranggay sa QC... ehem, Kamuning, ehem, Novaliches.
  • wedding_peachwedding_peach Archer/ Patriot PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    @renz-sa mga nabanggit mo,sister stella l.lang familiar sa'kin dahil madalas banggitin dito sa pex.at madalas sabihin na magaling daw si vilma dyan..siguro ganun talaga.iba-iba pamantayan ng mga hurado.hehe..dun sa,kontrobersyal dahil natalo ni sharon ang mga mas bigatin.yan ang thinking na ayaw ko.parang inaalisan ng karapatan na manalo ang mga baguhan kapag seniors ang kalaban dahil pagdududahan agad.madalas mangyari yan ngayon.kapag senior stars vs young stars,expected agad na senior stars ang mananalo dahil pag ang young ang nanalo, magugulat,di maniniwala o sasabihan ng nandaya..sana mabago.unfair kasi hehe...teka parang O.T. na.haha
  • pan8ikipan8iki Member PExer
    [QUOTE=renz7;64819908]queen of all media is not higher than a movie queen in my opinion. kris has limited success in the movies. massacre and horror movies and her tsamba acting awards sa mano po 1 (which in my opinion nadala lang sa hype but there is nothing spectacular don sa acting niya lol! improvement big yes, but acting awards? no lol!). kris for me is a part time moviestar hehe. but i really like her as a host. she's the best in this category at kaya kong tapusin ang show sa kadadakdak niya and not get bored. lol!

    makakalimutan ang pangalan ni kris when her time to fade comes, but the real movie queens will always be mentioned in showbiz history especially ang apat na movie queens, nora, vilma, sharon and maricel.[/QUOTE]

    the word ALL i think implies all forms of media and that includes movies.opinion ko lang po.

    pero kung ang dahilan mo ay dahil yon ang title ni kris,agree ako sa iyo.:D

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