Scientist tries to figure out what they don't know.
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The author of Ignorance: "How It Drives Science explains the slippery nature of facts from revision and alteration to overturning and destruction, and trying to figure out what we don't know."
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Scientific method lang yan.
Religious people: It is god will. god is good. I pray. Me go to heaven. you go to hell.
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There's nothing new about what that dude said in the video. That's just how science is -- Earth revolves around the sun until proven otherwise. Good for you if you learned something new.0
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http://www.pointofinquiry.org/stuart_firestein_how_ignorance_drives_science/Stuart Firestein - How Ignorance Drives Science
The idea that science moves forward by carefully peeling back layers of the onion of truth, one by one, in a deliberate fashion, is so prevalent that it borders on cliche. But the truth is that running scientific experiments often feels more akin to dipping a cup into a bottomless well of information: each new study simply raises more questions than it answers. Although scientific knowledge is vast, ignorance, or what's left to learn, dwarfs what we think we know. Exploring this boundless frontier, neurobiologist Stuart Firestein explains how ignorance, rather than facts, drives science.
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that's the good thing about science: it employs a method by which we start from what we do not know and end up with something new to know. this is opposed to how religion claims to already know something even before being able to demonstrate that knowledge.
in other words, religion would claim that there's a black cat in a dark room, and expects you to believe despite lack of any evidence whatsoever. science doesn't claim to know, but sets a trap and after a while shows you either an empty cage or a cage with a black cat inside.0 -
http://www.pointofinquiry.org/stuart_firestein_how_ignorance_drives_science/Stuart Firestein - How Ignorance Drives Science
The idea that science moves forward by carefully peeling back layers of the onion of truth, one by one, in a deliberate fashion, is so prevalent that it borders on cliche. But the truth is that running scientific experiments often feels more akin to dipping a cup into a bottomless well of information: each new study simply raises more questions than it answers. Although scientific knowledge is vast, ignorance, or what's left to learn, dwarfs what we think we know. Exploring this boundless frontier, neurobiologist Stuart Firestein explains how ignorance, rather than facts, drives science.
true.
But man believe and joined the party though no light can be seen at the end of the tunnel...is it not?
So where's the logic of bottomless cosmos if more questions were being raised rather than answers?
It make sense that Ignorance will take over.0 -
dont let that trouble you. what matters is the benefits we get from the little answers we are getting.....computers, satellites, medicine, transportation, etc.But man believe and joined the party though no light can be seen at the end of the tunnel...is it not?
So where's the logic of bottomless cosmos if more questions were being raised rather than answers?
the questions we get only drive us for more answers which in turn gives us more practical benefits.
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Ischaramoochie wrote: »that's the good thing about science: it employs a method by which we start from what we do not know and end up with something new to know. this is opposed to how religion claims to already know something even before being able to demonstrate that knowledge.
It depends on a particular block of science...but the Cosmos? That's another story and they don't know what they figured out. Therefore, more questions than answer and people buys into it out of ignorance.Ischaramoochie wrote: »in other words, religion would claim that there's a black cat in a dark room, and expects you to believe despite lack of any evidence whatsoever. science doesn't claim to know, but sets a trap and after a while shows you either an empty cage or a cage with a black cat inside.
Logically speaking as we see it unfolding, the OT are one of the basis of the laws of the Cosmos and change the Physics laws by which newly trained Physicist trying to expand in so many possibilities...as I said, without the OT.
Also, the bible did not simply said there is a black cat in a dark room but had proven there is one...by showing another cat in another room which the master installed.0 -
Yun naman talaga ang purpose ng science di ba, to gain knowledge and learn new things.
So anong problema mo ETEs? Wala kang makausap? Hehehe...0 -
But man believe and joined the party though no light can be seen at the end of the tunnel...is it not?
So where's the logic of bottomless cosmos if more questions were being raised rather than answers?
It make sense that Ignorance will take over.
Eh ano bang gusto mo? Tumigil na lang ang mga scientist sa pagtuklas sa mga bagong kaalaman at maupo na lang sila sa sulok at magbasa ng bible kasi para sayo andun na lahat ng sagot at katotohanan? Ganun ba gusto mo? Wala ng research, wala ng experiments, wala ng trial and ERRORS? Sa bible na lang natin kunin lahat ang sagot?0 -
It depends on a particular block of science...but the Cosmos? That's another story and they don't know what they figured out. Therefore, more questions than answer and people buys into it out of ignorance.
Logically speaking as we see it unfolding, the OT are one of the basis of the laws of the Cosmos and change the Physics laws by which newly trained Physicist trying to expand in so many possibilities...as I said, without the OT.
Also, the bible did not simply said there is a black cat in a dark room but had proven there is one...by showing another cat in another room which the master installed.
ah ewan, ang labo mo talaga kausap.0 -
Ano ba science book sa New Era, Bible?0
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"Scientist tries to figure out what they [sic] don't know" (god, that was painful to read and write)
because the scientist at least KNOWS that he/she doesn't know.
This is as opposed to: "Theists not trying to figure out what they don't know" due to the fact they are too IGNORANT to realize when they don't really know something.
Here's Feynman on a great example of how great thinkers are very much aware of this principle:
we know it's called inertia, but nobody knows why this is so.0 -
dont let that trouble you. what matters is the benefits we get from the little answers we are getting.....computers, satellites, medicine, transportation, etc.
the questions we get only drive us for more answers which in turn gives us more practical benefits.
right?
Nope, it doesn't trouble me. And the answer that they gave us lead to gazillion of never ending questions that will never satisfy your craving for realistic answers and I don't bet my existence in such ignorance.
Sooner or later we will all go back from where we came from. So what's the purpose of our existence if the rest that exist have had purposed? That doesn't click to a logical reason.0 -
Ischaramoochie wrote: »ah ewan, ang labo mo talaga kausap.
Why not clarify it...maybe what I am saying does not click in your world? Kaysa magmaktol kang parang bata.0 -
Nope, it doesn't trouble me. And the answer that they gave us lead to gazillion of never ending questions that will never satisfy your craving for realistic answers and I don't bet my existence in such ignorance.
Sooner or later we will all go back from where we came from. So what's the purpose of our existence if the rest that exist have had purposed? That doesn't click to a logical reason.
Eh ano ang gusto mo? Tumigil na ang science sa pagreresearch? Ha? Sagutin mo. At magtagalog ka na lang kasi nakakairita an ingles mo. Ano? So ayaw mo na sa science ganun? Gusto mo wala ng scientist na magreresearch ng mga bagong theory? Magbabasa na lang lahat ng bible ganun ba? Sagot potek.0 -
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