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Vatican Removed the Concept of Purgatory?

ellivro99ellivro99 Et cetera PEx Rookie ⭐
I would like to confirm this thing. Did the Pope removed the teachings about the concept of purgatory?

My professor told us yesterday that the purgatory has removed by the Pope.

I know your answer would clear me up.


Thank you :D
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  • AteoAteo Non est Deus. Fac cum eo. PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Yes, it was removed. There is no purgatory; it was not established as an infallible doctrine, it was only a theological hypothesis that has since been withdrawn.

    The Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrines of the Faith, its highest doctinal authority issued a one-word statement: "Oops!."
  • pienopieno CITIZENWARRIOR.COM PExer
    Hindi pwedeng alisin ang concept ng Purgatory, Mother of Dragons haha

    Yan ay tinuturo na noong panahon pa lang ni Kristo.
    http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p123a12.htm

    Biblical Basis for Purgatory

    John Salza, Esq.



    Jesus taught us about it, and for centuries the Church has faithfully defined and defended it. Protestants deny it even exists, while many Catholics accept but fundamentally misunderstand it. Certain saints experienced a harrowing taste of it, and from it the Holy Souls cry out night and day.



    It is purgatory: that place of purifying penance where souls saved by Christ are made perfect and acceptable to spend life eternal in heaven.



    In The Biblical Basis for Purgatory, author and apologist John Salza (Why Catholics Cannot Be Masons) offers the definitive scriptural explanation of this distinctively Catholic doctrine. Building on the teachings of Christ and St. Paul, he shows how the existence of a place of temporal punishment after death is not only a logical extension of what we know about the reality of sin and God's justice, but is also a supreme expression of God's love and mercy.



    Salza also treats the common errors and misunderstandings that plague both Catholics (in their efforts to comprehend purgatory) and Protestants (in their efforts to refute it) alike. With clear and powerful arguments, using evidence from the Bible and from the early Church, he dismisses simplistic prooftexts against purgatory and demonstrates:



    -that purgatory is for those who are already saved; it's not a “second chance” for redemption after death, or an “alternative destination” for souls too good for hell but not good enough for heaven



    -how God's temporal punishments are not only just, they’re also medicinal and instructive, guiding us towards holier lives



    -how the doctrine of purgatory confirms that salvation is an interior transformation; the elect must be refined by fire and rendered truly worthy to stand in God's presence – not merely “covered” by Christ's righteousness



    -that Jesus' death on the Cross, although it paid the debt for all sin, does not preclude the need for penitential suffering, but in fact makes such suffering meaningful



    And The Biblical Basis for Purgatory does more than defend and explain purgatory – it provides a solid plan, drawn from the Church's perennial spiritual wisdom, for staying out of purgatory. For although purgatory is a place of mercy, its pains are real, and they are severe. But by God's grace, ministered through the Church, we can merit perfection while on earth, conquering in this life the sins that must otherwise be burned out of us in the next.


    mga islamic pet lang ang galit talaga dyan
  • marcus_huntmarcus_hunt Member PExer
    Tinanggal na, it served its purpose well. May nagbabayad pa ba ng malaki sa padasal para ma-expedite ang stay ng relatives nila sa purgatory?
  • AteoAteo Non est Deus. Fac cum eo. PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Nahuli sa balita si Alaskador. Akala nya ay andyan pa. Kung di pa nya alam, e di mas lalo na ang ibang Katoliko na kahit Genesis 1:1 ay di alam.
  • marcus_huntmarcus_hunt Member PExer
    Hindi naman kasi doctrine talaga yan.

    Katuwa dyan eh nasa kamay ng taong infallible if it will branded as the "truth" or not.
    Parang yun tungkol kay Mama Mary, di pa pumapasa as official doctrine = "truth". Nilalakad na ng mga marian fanatics... pati mga negosyante.
  • SmartDessaSmartDessa Things divide;Christ unites PExer
    mother of dragons. :lol:

    ano yan, moon of my life. :lol:
  • AteoAteo Non est Deus. Fac cum eo. PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Hindi naman kasi doctrine talaga yan.

    Katuwa dyan eh nasa kamay ng taong infallible if it will branded as the "truth" or not.
    Parang yun tungkol kay Mama Mary, di pa pumapasa as official doctrine = "truth". Nilalakad na ng mga marian fanatics... pati mga negosyante.

    Nilakad ang ano? Yung virginity niya? I don't think malakad yan; it is either you have it or you don't.
  • tontontonton Let's stop and talk awhile. PExer
    Ateo wrote: »
    Nilakad ang ano? Yung virginity niya? I don't think malakad yan; it is either you have it or you don't.

    With God, everything is possible.
  • marcus_huntmarcus_hunt Member PExer
    Ateo wrote: »
    Nilakad ang ano? Yung virginity niya? I don't think malakad yan; it is either you have it or you don't.

    Yung fifth marian dogma. Di ba there are 4 already accepted and proclaimed as dogma = true:
    1. Mary is Mother of God
    2. Mary is ever virgin
    3. Immaculate Conception
    4. Mary was assumed to heaven buddy n sol

    ang nilalakad nila:
    5. Mary is co-redemptrix

    Halos lahat nung 1-4 walang direct support ng bible, base lang sa biased interpretation where some can make a valid case against it. Pulitika lang.

    1. Mother of God - ano lang to carry over na idea ng family of gods - of course iniiba ng konti ang meaning. Pero mas madali pa rin tanggapin kasi sanay na yun mga tao na since meron son, merong mother at father... brother, sister how do you brush your teeth :P
    2. Perpetual Virgin - para lang maiba sa iba pang cases ng half-god half-man. Like Perseus, Hercules etc... tinira ng god yun mortal, boom! ang product demigod. Kay Mary walang naganap na sexual intercourse. Mas advance, in vitro fertilization :P Para bang kakulangan sa kabutihan ni Mary kung di na sya virgin.
    3. Immaculate Conception - para special yun mother of god, di basta bastang mortal. Eh ano naman kaya kung hindi? Lahat naman makasalanan, sabi ng bible.
    4. Assumption - another beam me up scottie moment, calling doombot. malupit dyan base lang sa tsismis at apocryphal writings pero ginawang dogma.

    and
    5. Co-redemptrix, mediatrix - para bang alam ni Mary na nung nabuntis sya eh yun eh part ng redemption. At para bang makaka-angal sya sa Angel na bumisita sa kanya and say NO. When Judas betrayed Jesus, important part ng redemption yun :P
    Di pa ba sapat yung sinabi ni Jesus na "I am the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the father except through me", dinagdagan pa ng isa pang mediator between god the father. Padrino system lang. :P
  • admiral__cidricadmiral__cidric Member PExer
    Can you cite your credible source please.

    Ateo wrote: »
    Yes, it was removed. There is no purgatory; it was not established as an infallible doctrine, it was only a theological hypothesis that has since been withdrawn.

    The Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrines of the Faith, its highest doctinal authority issued a one-word statement: "Oops!."
  • krams2krams2 Banned by Admin PExer
    purgatory is another invention
  • admiral__cidricadmiral__cidric Member PExer
    Worst invention is "Felix is an angel!"

    krams2 wrote: »
    purgatory is another invention
  • MilliardoMilliardo Team Valor PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Ateo wrote: »
    Yes, it was removed. There is no purgatory; it was not established as an infallible doctrine, it was only a theological hypothesis that has since been withdrawn.

    The Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrines of the Faith, its highest doctinal authority issued a one-word statement: "Oops!."

    No, Purgatory is not removed as a teaching in the Catholic Church. Maybe what you mean is limbo, which in the first place isn't even Catholic teaching. So no, Purgatory is still taught in the Catholic Church.
  • totben331totben331 Member PExer
    nagbotohan na naman ba ang mga pari?

    council of vatican naman yan.
  • sophionsophion Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    Milliardo wrote: »
    No, Purgatory is not removed as a teaching in the Catholic Church. Maybe what you mean is limbo, which in the first place isn't even Catholic teaching. So no, Purgatory is still taught in the Catholic Church.
    nagtataka din ako eh. limbo nga ang alam kong tinanggal.
  • pienopieno CITIZENWARRIOR.COM PExer
    Ateo wrote: »
    Yes, it was removed. There is no purgatory; it was not established as an infallible doctrine, it was only a theological hypothesis that has since been withdrawn.

    The Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrines of the Faith, its highest doctinal authority issued a one-word statement: "Oops!."

    Ateo, nauna pa ang Purgatory kay master Muhammad nyo at sa inimbento niyang Allah. Hindi pa pinapanganak ang Lolo ng Lolo ni Muhammad may Purgatory na.
  • PyrosPyros Faith Under Fire PExer
    Kung totooong inalis na ang purgatoryo, paano na lang Lola ko mawawalan na ng trabaho. For hire kasi siya sa dasalan at pagro-rosario na mai-ahon ang kaluluwa ng mga napunta doon.


    "NO TO PURGING of PURGATORY!!!"
  • tontontonton Let's stop and talk awhile. PExer
    Pyros wrote: »
    Kung totooong inalis na ang purgatoryo, paano na lang Lola ko mawawalan na ng trabaho. For hire kasi siya sa dasalan at pagro-rosario na mai-ahon ang kaluluwa ng mga napunta doon.


    "NO TO PURGING of PURGATORY!!!"

    Bago nila tanggalin ang ano mang paniniwala dapat tingnan nila ang mga taong maaapektuhan lalo na yung mga mawawalan ng trabaho o yung mga nagbayad na para ipagdasal ang mga nasa purgatoryo. Hindi naman magrerefund ang simbahan eh.
  • PyrosPyros Faith Under Fire PExer
    Panawagan ng mga Manang....

    "IBALIK ANG PURGATORYO"
  • BaldozerBaldozer Member PExer
    Pyros wrote: »
    Kung totooong inalis na ang purgatoryo, paano na lang Lola ko mawawalan na ng trabaho. For hire kasi siya sa dasalan at pagro-rosario na mai-ahon ang kaluluwa ng mga napunta doon.


    "NO TO PURGING of PURGATORY!!!"

    Hahay, ganda naman ng trabaho ng lola, nasa lahi niyo yan?

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