Question about the quotient system

amiananamianan LeeBron_36 PExer
remaining games..

petron - tnt
bmeg - barako, shopinas
barako - bmeg, ginebra
rain or shine - shopinas, alaska
meralco - ginebra

if after the elims nagtabla yung 5 teams na yan sino ang papasok sa playoff para sa 2nd spot?..

petron won over bmeg, ros, meralco(2nd round), barako,(2nd round)
bmeg won over ros, meralco(2nd round)
barako won over petron(1st round), ros(2nd round), bmeg(1st and 2nd round)
ros won over barako(1st round), meralco(1st and 2nd round)
meralco won over petron(1st round), barako, bmeg(1st round)

paano iaaply yung quotient system diyan?
sensiya medyo naguguluhan lang pag 3 or more teams na nagtabala..
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  • Wala naman ho atang quotient kapag 14-game elims round sa conference, winner over the other rule ata.
  • KG21KG21 Twolves 4ever PExer
    basta alam ko yung 2nd at 8thplace lang ang may playoff if ever na may nagkatabla na teams...wala ng quotient system na pag-uusapan pa dyan!
  • darkwinddarkwind Pilipinas PExer
    There will be quotient to determine the placings.

    example: 3 teams end up tied for the 2nd spot after the elims, after applying the quotient, the 2nd and 3rd place team figure in a playoff to determine the second seed while the, the loser ends of 3rd(will play #6 in the QF) and the other team that tied for 2nd but end up with the worst quotient, gets the #4 seed (faces #5 in the QF)

    All ties (of more than 2 teams) except for #2 and #8 will be broken by the quotient. Ties between 2 teams except #2 and #8 is broken by the winner over the other rule.
  • darkwinddarkwind Pilipinas PExer
    --- wops double post
  • Drahow ein EnteDrahow ein Ente twitter.com/htdee PExer
    yung quotient system ng PBA simple lang yan. add mo yung leads/deficits of all tied teams. yung sum, yun ang quotient (actually dapat differential ang tawag dyan).

    sorta wala na ring quotient kung 1 game lang -- that means kung sino nanalo, yun na.
  • AkoPoSiPipoyAkoPoSiPipoy Team MMDA Gators PExer
    darkwind wrote: »
    There will be quotient to determine the placings.

    example: 3 teams end up tied for the 2nd spot after the elims, after applying the quotient, the 2nd and 3rd place team figure in a playoff to determine the second seed while the, the loser ends of 3rd(will play #6 in the QF) and the other team that tied for 2nd but end up with the worst quotient, gets the #4 seed (faces #5 in the QF)

    All ties (of more than 2 teams) except for #2 and #8 will be broken by the quotient. Ties between 2 teams except #2 and #8 is broken by the winner over the other rule.

    This! *okay*
  • amiananamianan LeeBron_36 PExer
    yung quotient system ng PBA simple lang yan. add mo yung leads/deficits of all tied teams. yung sum, yun ang quotient (actually dapat differential ang tawag dyan).

    sorta wala na ring quotient kung 1 game lang -- that means kung sino nanalo, yun na.

    leads/deficits ng team na yun in all 14 games or dun lang sa game nila against sa mga katie niyang teams?
  • Drahow ein EnteDrahow ein Ente twitter.com/htdee PExer
    doon lang sa ka-tie nyang teams.

    for example, currently tied ang BBE & BGK. ito ang game results ng 2 teams vs each other:
    BBE 88-75 BGK
    Dec 8 BBE vs BGK

    that means dapat mas mataas ang rank ng BBE vs BGK by virtue of a better quotient (+13) vs BGK's (-13)
    now if BGK wins by 13 on dec 8, overall quotient na ang gagamitin, so all teams na. kung tied pa rin, ayon kay PBAologist toss coin daw.

    pero parang may nabasa ako sa pba.ph na quotient talaga at hindi differential ang gagamitin. in either case, parehas pa rin ang result.
  • YoonJay18YoonJay18 Thomasian PExer
    For example, if B-MEG and Meralco ended up tied for 3rd place, the tie breaker will be based on first, the result of their two-game series, which is 1-1.

    So, pagbabasehan na natin sunod 'yung lead ng Meralco sa panalo nila vs. sa lead ng B-MEG nung nanalo sila. Meralco won by a slim margin, while B-MEG drubbed the Bolts by a big margin.

    So, panalo ang B-MEG. Sila ang 3rd, 4th ang Bolts.
  • amiananamianan LeeBron_36 PExer
    quotient = total points scored / total points allowed

    ganun pala yun..masubukan nga..hehe
  • Drahow ein EnteDrahow ein Ente twitter.com/htdee PExer
    YoonJay18 wrote: »
    For example, if B-MEG and Meralco ended up tied for 3rd place, the tie breaker will be based on first, the result of their two-game series, which is 1-1.

    So, pagbabasehan na natin sunod 'yung lead ng Meralco sa panalo nila vs. sa lead ng B-MEG nung nanalo sila. Meralco won by a slim margin, while B-MEG drubbed the Bolts by a big margin.

    So, panalo ang B-MEG. Sila ang 3rd, 4th ang Bolts.

    AFAIK, the result of the 2-game series is NEVER considered in breaking ties in the PBA. it's always pure quotient... well if there are 2 teams a 2-0 team will always have a higher quotient than the 0-2 team.

    it gets freaky in ties involving 3 or more teams. there are cases where a team lost all 4 games (uso pa noon ang double round elims) but it still had 2nd-best quotient.
  • YoonJay18YoonJay18 Thomasian PExer
    ^ Maybe NBA got too much into me. I think pure quotient nga lang sa PBA.
  • amiananamianan LeeBron_36 PExer
    eto current ratio ng 5 teams na yan as of now..di pa kasama yung remaining games..kapag pala natalo ang bmeg sa barako, petron sa tnt, at nanalo ang rain or shine sa clickers at aces ay malaki pa pagasa nila para sa twice to beat advantage..

    rai or shine
    89-84
    80-90
    93-81
    139-95
    102-106
    100-102

    603 / 558 = 1.0806


    petron
    76-75
    75-66
    90-80
    70-80
    95-83

    409 / 384 = 1.0651

    bmeg
    69-73
    84-87
    78-84
    95-79
    102-100

    428 / 423 = 1.0118

    barako
    106-102
    75-86
    66-75
    81-93
    87-84
    83-95

    498 / 535 = 0.9308

    bolts
    75-76
    83-75
    79-95
    95-139
    80-70
    78-84
    84-89

    574 / 628 = 0.9140
  • Drahow ein EnteDrahow ein Ente twitter.com/htdee PExer
    amianan wrote: »
    eto current ratio ng 5 teams na yan as of now..di pa kasama yung remaining games..kapag pala natalo ang bmeg sa barako, petron sa tnt, at nanalo ang rain or shine sa clickers at aces ay malaki pa pagasa nila para sa twice to beat advantage..

    rai or shine
    89-84
    80-90
    93-81
    139-95
    102-106
    100-102

    603 / 558 = 1.0806


    petron
    76-75
    75-66
    90-80
    70-80
    95-83

    409 / 384 = 1.0651

    bmeg
    69-73
    84-87
    78-84
    95-79
    102-100

    428 / 423 = 1.0118

    barako
    106-102
    75-86
    66-75
    81-93
    87-84
    83-95

    498 / 535 = 0.9308

    bolts
    75-76
    83-75
    79-95
    95-139
    80-70
    78-84
    84-89

    574 / 628 = 0.9140

    magagamit lang natin iyan kung lahat ng teams na yan end up tied w/ each other :glee:
  • Drahow ein EnteDrahow ein Ente twitter.com/htdee PExer
    2011-12 PBA Philippine Cup quotient cheatsheet!
    Plus a very special surprise! :evil:
  • fernando_hierrofernando_hierro Member ✭✭✭✭
    ^Nice read. But BGK beat PBB 91-89 whereas in #4 it says PBB beat BGK. So for now, I keep judgment on the accuracy of the computations...
  • Drahow ein EnteDrahow ein Ente twitter.com/htdee PExer
    ^Nice read. But BGK beat PBB 91-89 whereas in #4 it says PBB beat BGK. So for now, I keep judgment on the accuracy of the computations...

    yan ang tinatawag na clerical mistake :glee:

    or, sadyang hater lang talaga ako ng ginebra :lol:
  • amiananamianan LeeBron_36 PExer
    2011-12 PBA Philippine Cup quotient cheatsheet!
    Plus a very special surprise! :evil:

    mali scenario #2, #3 and #4..

    sa #2 - ginebra won over petron so bgk should be 3rd seed
    sa #3 and #4 - it is ros who won both games over meralco..in scenario 3 ros should be 4th seed and 5th seed in scenario 4..
  • Sobra kayo sa analysis. Heto mas madali magbasa kayo sa sulat ni Fidel:

    http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/pba-philippine-cup-only-4-qf-scenarios-left

    :D
  • Rudy_FernandezRudy_Fernandez Baller ✭✭✭✭✭
    2011-12 PBA Philippine Cup quotient cheatsheet!
    Plus a very special surprise! :evil:

    may mali htd, dun sa meralco vs ros haha! baligtad
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