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Whatever happened to "Ubusin ang mga Corrupt"?

krovekrove Banned by Admin PExer
Ayaw na ngang imbestigahan ito ng ombundsman, joker. Don’t tell me pati IKAW rin, ayaw mo. Gusto mo yung Presidential Commission on Graft and Corruption na lang ang mag-imbestiga.

Ano ito, pasa-pasahan na lang ito? Too hot to handle? Too cold to hold?

Nakakagulat ka naman. Nagbigay ka pa ng mga conditions para lang tanggapin yang chairmanship post na yan. Ginulat mo pa ang mga colleagues mo sa PPC.

Ang dami mo EXCUSES. Ang dami mong DAHILAN.

There’s nothing wrong with the senate blue ribbon committee’s “structural problems”. IKAW ang problema. Ano, babaguhin ng senado yung “structure” ng blue ribbon committee para lang ma-satisfy ang mga demanda mo? LOL!!!

Kung ayaw mong maging chairman, di wag mong tanggapin!

Wala nang dahilan-dahilan!
” Senate President Franklin Drilon implied there is no need for the Senate blue ribbon committee to dip its fingers into the Mike Arroyo bribery controversy.

"I don't think he is a public official and he has not been appointed to any public office. He does not exercise any part of sovereign function," he said.”
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Asked to clarify why former First Lady and now Sen. Luisa Ejercito Estrada was subjected to an investigation by the Senate blue ribbon committee over the Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office brouhaha last year despite the fact she was also not a public official but only a public personality, Drilon was unable to answer.” – Malaya, 7/27/01
“Speculations that the majority bloc is trying to steer clear of the bribery scandal was practically confirmed by Senate President pro tempore Manuel Villar who admitted Wednesday night the majority is stumped as to how they would defend Mr. Arroyo from the allegations.

Villar, in a talk with reporters, said: "Nahihirapan nga kami (majority senators) kung paano namin dedepensahan si Mike. Kahit saan mo tingnan, mukhang maiipit kami." – Malaya, 7/27/01
” Senator Arroyo said he would accept the chairmanship of the blue ribbon committee only when the majority addresses his concerns about the panel being overloaded and understaffed.

"That would entail modification of the rules," he added.

Sen. Juan Flavier (Lakas) said Senator Arroyo did not air his "conditions" during the majority bloc's meeting last Tuesday at the Manila Hotel.

"This is the first time that I have heard of these conditions. We will discuss it during our next caucus, maybe next week," he said.” – Malaya, 7/27/01

Joker not keen on Mike

Let graft body handle it, he says

By JOAN DAIRO


If Sen. Joker Arroyo would have his way, the Senate majority could maintain its good relations with President Arroyo by keeping its hands off from any investigation into allegations that Juan Miguel Arroyo, the President's husband, received P50 million in exchange for a promised recall of a veto of a telecommunications franchise.

Senator Arroyo (PPC), who is being considered blue ribbon chairman, said the panel should not be saddled with the additional task of investigating Mr. Arroyo since it has already been made a repository of all kinds of complaints against government officials and employes.

Arroyo said inquiries on alleged involvement of government officials in graft and corruption should be left to the Presidential Commission on Graft and Corruption.

Senate President Franklin Drilon implied there is no need for the Senate blue ribbon committee to dip its fingers into the Mike Arroyo bribery controversy.

"I don't think he is a public official and he has not been appointed to any public office. He does not exercise any part of sovereign function," he said.

The blue ribbon committee specifically looks into alleged graft and corrupt practices of government officials and employes. It likewise looks into anomalies involving supposed conspiracy between private and public officials.

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  • krovekrove Banned by Admin PExer
    Arroyo, in an apparent attempt to avoid putting himself in an uncompromising situation, appeared to have started setting conditions before accepting the post.

    He is questioning the supposed structural problems of the panel and based on his statements, he seems bent on changing Senate rules covering the blue ribbon committee.

    "It might be wise to limit the jurisdiction of the committee to matters of public interest and concern that impact on the nation as a whole," the senator said. – d. tribune, 7/27/01
    ” Arroyo said he would only accept the chairmanship of the blue ribbon committee only when the majority address his concerns about the panel being overloaded and understaffed.

    "That would entail modification of the rules," he added.

    His colleagues in the majority bloc appeared stunned at Arroyo's pronouncements, saying they were not aware of his stated positions when they began discussing committee assignments this week.

    Sen. Juan Flavier said Arroyo has not aired his concerns during the majority bloc's meeting last Tuesday at the Manila Hotel.” – d. tribune, 7/27/01

    http://www.tribune.net.ph/20010727/headlines/20010727.hed01.html
  • krovekrove Banned by Admin PExer
    here’s the inquirer version. Enjoy! LOL!!!

    TOO HOT TO HANDLE
    Joker: Let Pimentel
    have blue ribbon post
    Posted: 10:45 PM (Manila Time) | July 26, 2001
    By Dona Z. Pazzibugan
    Inquirer News Service
    'Structural problems'


    SUDDENLY, the powerful Senate blue ribbon committee has become too hot to handle.

    Sen. Joker Arroyo, who was expected to chair it, said he was no longer keen on taking on the post previously held by former Senate President Aquilino Pimentel Jr. until the Senate corrects the committee’s "structural problems."

    In a surprise twist, Arroyo said he even urged other members of the Senate majority bloc to let Pimentel retain the post.

    "To quiet speculations on the blue ribbon committee... here is the situation. Yes I have been asked to chair it; however, I have not agreed until the following structural problems are clarified and corrected," Arroyo said in a statement.

    "I have urged the retention of Senator Pimentel as chair of the blue ribbon committee. Unfortunately, he is not with the majority coalition in the Senate.

    "One need not be a committee chairman in the Senate to be effective. I did not have any committee chairmanship in my 9 years in the House," he went on.

    Arroyo’s offer to let Pimentel keep the blue ribbon committee can complicate matters for the already shaky pro-administration Senate majority.

    The administration Senate bloc has the upper hand in the assignment of committee chairmanships, much to the frustration of some opposition senators who refuse to join the majority just to get a committee.

    Senate President Franklin Drilon yesterday stressed that the blue ribbon committee will go to the administration bloc.

    "It (committee) will be in the majority," he said in a press conference Thursday.

    Since the blue ribbon committee chair should be a lawyer, the only choices from the administration bloc are Senators Arroyo, Rene Cayetano and Francis Pangilinan, while those from the opposition are Senators Pimentel and Edgardo Angara.

    Angara would have bagged the post had the opposition succeeded in electing Pimentel, who has aligned himself with the pro-Estrada opposition.

    It was during Pimentel’s term as chair that the blue ribbon committee investigated the "juetengate" controversy against President Joseph Estrada, triggering a chain of events that led to Estrada’s ouster in a popular revolt last January.

    Sen. Ralph Recto who, like Arroyo, is a member of the so-called "House bloc," said he was convinced that Arroyo was interested in the blue ribbon committee.

    But he said he had "no trouble" with letting Pimentel retain the blue ribbon committee.

    "I have no trouble with that. If Joker doesn’t want it, possibly I would support Pimentel," said Recto. "I don’t see any problem even if he’s with the minority because of his track record. He’ll be fair."

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  • sadirmatasadirmata saluyot freak PExer
    kung ayaw ni joker ang senate blue ribbon chair, ibalik kay pimetel para imbestigahan si mike arroyo at nang makita natin kung fair nga talaga ang gobyernong ito...
  • krovekrove Banned by Admin PExer
    Originally posted by sadirmata
    kung ayaw ni joker ang senate blue ribbon chair, ibalik kay pimetel para imbestigahan si mike arroyo at nang makita natin kung fair nga talaga ang gobyernong ito...

    Whatever happened to Joker "ubusin ang mga corrupt" Arroyo?

    cold feet???
  • krovekrove Banned by Admin PExer
    mrs. Arroyo said that she wants an "independent, objective and a separate body" to look into the mike arroyo-bing Rodrigo scandal, so that the administration could avoid being accused of influencing or being biased in the probe.

    So who did she turn to to head the investigation? Ani Desierto of the OMBUNDSMAN.

    Ani desierto is… independent??? Objective?!? LOL!!! Sorry, but it doesn’t even pass the laugh test… nor the smell test… cuz this thing SMELLS.

    Si ani desierto na yata ang isa sa mga pinaka-partisan at biased na official sa pilipinas…

    What is she worried about? GMA/PPC senate will do just fine in investigating this matter. The ppc, her coalition holds the majority in the senate. It is an almost evenly divided senate, so balanced talaga ang senado. I’m sure the majority will protect mike and other gma administration interests.

    With joker “ubusin ang mga corrupt” arroyo a potential senate blue ribbon committee chairman, he WILL do a good job. ;)
  • krovekrove Banned by Admin PExer
    hey, joker, chairman ka na pala ng committee on public services.

    what about blue ribbon? kaya mo yan!
  • krovekrove Banned by Admin PExer
    max soliven, philstar (7/31/01):

    "I don’t understand why fledging Senator Joker Arroyo hesitated to take the juicy chairmanship of the Senate Blue Ribbon, a post other solons would have died for. Is he scared of having to bump heads with the Palace if he investigates the Mike bribery allegations? Is he daunted by the workload involved, complaining that the Blue Ribbon has become the tambakan (dumpsite) for every complaint addressed to the Senate? Joker pointed out that during the 11th Congress, the Blue Ribbon had received 118 referrals, or the equivalent of one referral every two session days.

    To even think that Joker is afraid is beyond comprehension. He goes to office with a snarl. He’s got guts and even gall. When he was our lawyer during martial law, his staffers would do the homework, then he would go to the courthouse to browbeat the judges in their own salas. I don’t want to say, on the other hand, that Joker is lazy. I’m just wondering why, in his three terms (nine years) as congressman from Makati, Joker did not file or get passed into law a single resolution or bill. Why, he didn’t even, his contemporaries say, have a House staff of his own. So, some ask, where did the appropriations for a House staff go? To charity, no doubt.
    ............................................

    So, Joker: Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth. A freshman Senator getting the Blue Ribbon is a grandstander’s dream! And that’s always been your forte. Or is Senator Arroyo (no relation) merely making pakipot? I don’t think it’s comely for his fellow solons to have to come to their knees and beg"
  • ScorpionEmperorScorpionEmperor Deductive Mind! PExer
    Hindi pwedeng ubusin ni joker ang mga corrrpt dahil pati sarili niya at si fvr at gma mauubos:lol: :lol: Gimmick lang ng grandstander yan. He doesn't want to investigate mike because he is protecting the corrupt. He knows some people might notice that he is just covering up for mike. Palpak ka joker. You're a lousy liar and a lousy congressman. Joker stole all the money allocated for his staff when he was congrssman. Wla kasi siyang staff kaya halata kaagad na ninakaw niya ang pera.:bleh:
  • wynnewynne commonsensical guy PExer
    ho-hum....much ado over nothing:blah2::bonkself:....nalagyan na naman ng malisya....tsktsktsk
  • JuliusJulius Banned by Admin PExer
    It's beginning to look like you did Erap a favor by forcing him out of office. He's probably more popular now than when he was in Malaca?ang.
  • krovekrove Banned by Admin PExer
    i guess it's now safe to take the senate blue ribbon committee chairmanship, joker...
  • golfbravogolfbravo TABI - TABI PO.... PExer
    Dapat naman talaga ay opposisyon ang humawak ng Blue Ribbon para fair. Sana nga si Pimentel ang humawak kasi ang dami nyang angal e.
  • krovekrove Banned by Admin PExer
    i mean reluctant siyang tanggapin ang senate blue ribbon committee chairmanship????

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    from malaya (8/2/01)

    Mike's 'crony' tagged as Joker poll handler

    Reason solon hesitant to head Blue Ribbon?

    By JOAN DAIRO and REGINA BENGCO



    Now, two Arroyos are in the hot seat.

    One of the persons implicated in the telecoms bribery scandal was the campaign manager of Sen. Joker Arroyo in the May elections, a highly reliable source from the Senate said yesterday.

    The campaign manager, Ito los Ba?os, was earlier tagged by Veronica "Bing Rodrigo, resigned correspondence secretary of President Arroyo, as among those who took bribes to recall the veto of a telecommunications franchise bill.

    "I am 100 percent sure of this information," said the source.

    Senator Arroyo denied this. But he said he knew Los Ba?os because they met during the campaign and both of them are from the Bicol region.

    Rodrigo sparked an uproar about two weeks ago when she told local media that Mike Arroyo, one of his businessmen-friends, and two Palace officials took a P50 million bribe to convince the President to recall her veto of the bills granting the Philippine Communications Clearinghouse Inc. and APC Wireless Interface Network Inc. franchises to allow them to operate and establish interconnection lines to mobile phones.

    On Monday, she named Los Ba?os and an Elin de Leon, whom she described as a special assistant to the President, as among those who received bribes.
    The only special assistant to the President is named Erlinda de Leon. She has denied involvement.

    The supposed roles of De Leon and Los Ba?os in the alleged bribe were not made clear. Rodrigo only said they were supposed to help Mr. Arroyo in convincing the President to rescind the veto.

    It was Mike Arroyo, another Senate source said, who asked Los Ba?os to help Senator Arroyo's campaign.

    Los Ba?os, the source alleged, collected the P50 million. Of the amount, P42 million went to Mike Arroyo, P2 million went to Los Ba?os, and the rest was distributed among other players, he said.

    The opposition bloc in the Senate is moving for an investigation of the bribery scandal. But the blue ribbon panel, which will handle the probe, has not been constituted because Senator Arroyo would not agree to chair it unless Senate rules are amended, so that the committee would not handle inquiries on alleged involvement of government officials in graft and corruption.

    Senator Arroyo is of the position that such cases should be left to the Presidential Commission on Graft and Corruption.

    The source said this latest twist could have "very serious" effects on the issue.

    The source also said this could probably be the reason Senator Arroyo was hesitant to head the blue ribbon.

    The People's Consultative Assembly said Mike Arroyo should stop interfering with government affairs through his appointees in several agencies.

    The PCA is a multi-sectoral group that started the campaign to oust former President Joseph Estrada.

    Ma. Linda Olaguer-Montayre, PCA secretary general, said that agencies where Mike Arroyo's friends hold power include the transportation department, Philippine Ports Authority, Land Registration Authority, Ninoy Aquino International Airport, Light Rail Transit Authority, Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office, and the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp.

    Montayre said "Mike's Boys" include PCSO vice president and general manager Virgilio Angelo and his media consultant Robert Rivero, LRTA chief Teodoro Cruz, NAIA general manager Edgar Manda, Pagcor chief Ephraim Genuino, and PPA chief Alfonso Cusi.

    She said PCA has documents showing anomalies in some of these agencies.

    Montayre said Cruz, a partner in Arroyo's law office, appointed his own men in the LRTA. Reports said Cruz appointed seven lawyers close to Arroyo as consultants. Cruz' own appointment on May 3 is reportedly a violation of the appointments ban during the election period.

    She noted Angelo, a friend of Arroyo for 15 years, was appointed vice president, general manager, and sixth member of the board of directors in violation of the PCSO charter. "No person is so special or so good that he should be given three positions," she added.

    She said Mike Arroyo should not interfere in government affairs because he is not a public official like his wife.

    "Napaka-powerful niya. Marami siyang nalalagay sa puwesto but he has no accountability.

    Montayre said PCA is "not satisfied" with Rodrigo's clarification of her statements against Mike Arroyo.

    Rodrigo on Tuesday night read a statement saying "what I said about Mike Arroyo was only what was told to me by another source." She did not elaborate.

    The Palace welcomed her clarification.

    When she first came out with the allegations against Mike Arroyo, Rodrigo said she was forced to come out in the open because she was being used as a scapegoat by the First Gentleman.

    Montayre chided presidential spokesman Rigoberto Tiglao for saying PCA's revival of the "Silent Protest Movement" is just a "gimmick."

    "A gimmick is meant to get something but we are not out to get something," she said.

    Montayre said the PCA's monitoring is part of an agreement that it will monitor the Arroyo administration. She said President Arroyo was supposed to sign a covenant last December with PCA acceding to the monitoring but she backed out at the last minute upon the admonition of her advisers.

    She explained that PCA members did not accept Gloria Arroyo as Estrada's replacement at the height of the impeachment process. A way for her to be accepted, she said, was to sign a covenant that her administration will be monitored.

    She said PCA will continue to monitor Gloria Arroyo even if she did not sign the covenant.

    "Kung naging Erap din siya, gagawin din sa kanya ang ginawa kay Erap," she added.

    Tiglao said the PCA should be "specific" in its complaints so that Malaca?ang could check them. He promised to check on the LRTA consultants.

    Tiglao also said the President expressed hope that the bribery accusations would die down after Rodrigo's clarification.

    "She (Arroyo) hopes that this non-issue will be put to rest, and the political grandstanding over it will cease," he said.

    In a taped interview on Australian television scheduled to be aired Wednesday, Arroyo branded the allegations against her husband as "black propaganda."

    Mike Arroyo is to return today from the United States.

    Rodrigo's brother, Caloocan City Fiscal Ramon "Boogie" Rodrigo, said his sister issued a new statement - indirectly clearing Mr. Arroyo of her allegations, because she wanted to set the record straight before things get out of hand.

    Attorney Rodrigo said his sister never accused Mike Arroyo of anything, and she does she have any direct knowledge or participation in relation to the vetoes bills.

    The Ombudsman will push through with its inquiry on allegations despite Rodrigo's clarification.

    Ombudsman Aniano Desierto said Rodrigo's recantation is "immaterial" since his office is only determining whether public officials were involved in the bribery scandal.

    The Senate probe will also push through, said Senate minority leader Aquilino Pimentel who described Rodrigo's retraction as a temporary setback.

    Sen. Edgardo Angara said Rodrigo has to explain why she recanted.
  • Q boneQ bone Operator 7G PExer
    In order to get rid of corruption in the Philippines you'd first have to depopulate it then do a bit of genetic engineering before repopulating. :D
  • JuliusJulius Banned by Admin PExer
    Seriously speaking, siguro kapag sinabi ni Gloria na si Erap ang pumatay kay Magellan.... maraming maniniwala.


    Just look at the SONA.... mathematically speaking.... her plans is an impossibility....and still a lot believes in this plan. Wow!


    Naalala ko tuloy yung kanta ni Fredie Aguilar....

    "Bulag, Pipi at uto-uto...." :lol:
  • opheliaophelia I am a Walrus PExer
    Originally posted by ScorpionEmperor
    Hindi pwedeng ubusin ni joker ang mga corrrpt dahil pati sarili niya at si fvr at gma mauubos:lol: :lol: Gimmick lang ng grandstander yan. He doesn't want to investigate mike because he is protecting the corrupt. He knows some people might notice that he is just covering up for mike. Palpak ka joker. You're a lousy liar and a lousy congressman. Joker stole all the money allocated for his staff when he was congrssman. Wla kasi siyang staff kaya halata kaagad na ninakaw niya ang pera.:bleh:

    Joker didn't steal money allocated for his staff. Actually, he didn't even get a staff so as not to get accused of pork barrel. I should know. I worked for him during his campaign for senator. We relied mostly on donations to fund the campaign materials and all of us worked for free. Now that he is senator, he still refuses to get a staff. I think he should though, being a congressman is nothing compared to being a senator. Hopefully, he'll come around and see that he'll be able to accomplish much more if he does. Some of my friends that are still with him are begging him to reconsider.
  • ScorpionEmperorScorpionEmperor Deductive Mind! PExer
    Originally posted by ophelia


    Joker didn't steal money allocated for his staff. Actually, he didn't even get a staff so as not to get accused of pork barrel. I should know. I worked for him during his campaign for senator. We relied mostly on donations to fund the campaign materials and all of us worked for free. Now that he is senator, he still refuses to get a staff. I think he should though, being a congressman is nothing compared to being a senator. Hopefully, he'll come around and see that he'll be able to accomplish much more if he does. Some of my friends that are still with him are begging him to reconsider.

    I'm not talking about recently . I'm talking about ever since he was a congressman. Ther was money allocated for his staff but he has no staff and the money is gone. Halatang kinurakot niya.
    Joker magbabayad ka din! :chainsaw:
  • JuliusJulius Banned by Admin PExer
    If he refuses to get a staff...then my golly.... he's not efficient.... what kind of service are we getting out of this guy whose salary is taken from the public? How can he be of full service if he has to type he's own memo... for himself :lol:

    Siguro naiisip niya na mas maganda mangurakot mag isa.... para walang may alam. :bash:
  • JuliusJulius Banned by Admin PExer
    O baka naman...ayaw niyang kumuha ng staff....kasi baka may makaalam na ang ginagawa niya lang sa opis eh...matulog at pagtikulan ang picture ni Nova Villa. :lol:
  • krovekrove Banned by Admin PExer
    Congrats! Sen. Joker Arroyo! tinanggap mo na rin pala ang senate blue ribbon committee chairmanship after giving us this b.s. about "structural reforms". LOL!!!

    pare, i don't think i recall any newspaper reporting on this. nabalitaan ko lang ito ngayon sa column ni bel cunanan. napaka low-profile naman.

    naawa yata sa iyo ang media kaya hindi na ni-report...

    sige, ubusin mo na ang mga corrupt!!! lol!
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