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rickymrickym Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
http://theintuitivethinker.wordpress.com/2011/08/26/mideo-cruz-and-the-freedom-of-expression/

"The big question here is if free speech and free expression has limits. Do people really have the right to be as offensive as they please? If you look at what the U.N. says, it seems that sky is the limit.

When you think of it, there are reasons why blasphemy should be allowed. What one persons considers as truth may actually be blasphemous to another. Who is to say that one is blasphemous and not the other. For example, for Christians, Jesus is the son of God, but for Muslims, Jesus is only a prophet. For a Christian, claim that Jesus is only a prophet and not the son of God may be considered blasphemous, but for Muslims, Jesus being the son of God may be equally blasphemous. Christians believe that Jesus died on the cross, Muslims believe that Jesus did not die on the cross. Can you imagine both parties citing ‘article 201′ ”(1) Those who shall publicly expound or proclaim doctrines openly contrary to public morals;” to sue each other.

If you are Catholics, there are rules which the Vatican assumes that you should follow. You should not indulge in premarital sex and you should not indulge in homosexual acts. What if you are a writer and you would want to make several books with subjects which propagate those acts, should the law allow you to be sued? What if you made books which are contrary to Catholic teachings such as: The Joys of Premarital Sex, The Joys of Homosexual Sex; is it right for you to be vulnerable to lawsuits?"


"A lot of offensive things which happen to Non-Catholics in this country. It is just that a lot of Catholics take it for granted. When some Catholics say or insinuate that a person of another religion has the wrong religion, that is offensive. When a Catholic tells an atheist that he is an evil person because he does not believe in God, that is even more offensive. The height of offensiveness occurs when the victim is a minor and is threatened with the concept of hell at such an early age. I actually know of someone who would have nightmares at night if he masturbated before going to bed due to the guilt driven by such brainwashing.

If you are pro RH bill, you can be considered offensive to the Catholic Church. God believing religions are supposed to be representing God. If you don’t follow them, you could be insinuating that they are not representing God properly. Sure they have the right to call you non-Catholics, but you also have the right to call them fake representatives of God."

Comments

  • stifbendstifbend Member PExer
    Ahh, Nailin Palin.

    The meat:
    That is really what free speech and free expression is all about. We all have our beliefs and we should be free to say or express them even if it offends and goes against the grain of what the public believes in. With no free speech we would be left in a society which hardly changes and is stuck on medieval beliefs.
  • IscharamoochieIscharamoochie Moderator PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    Here in the RoT, speech is free when the mod says it is. :lol:
  • stifbendstifbend Member PExer
    Here in the RoT, speech is free when the mod says it is. :lol:

    Sir, kapag nilabas na yung Johnny English Reborn, ganoon din ba magiging pic ninyo?
  • IscharamoochieIscharamoochie Moderator PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    yung costume lang :naughty:
  • stifbendstifbend Member PExer
    yung costume lang :naughty:

    Wahaha, yung pang-monghe ha?
  • IscharamoochieIscharamoochie Moderator PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    either that or yung hermit robes hehehe!
  • Artemio RicarteArtemio Ricarte Political Soldier PExer
    rickym wrote: »
    http://theintuitivethinker.wordpress.com/2011/08/26/mideo-cruz-and-the-freedom-of-expression/

    If you are Catholics, there are rules which the Vatican assumes that you should follow. You should not indulge in premarital sex and you should not indulge in homosexual acts. What if you are a writer and you would want to make several books with subjects which propagate those acts, should the law allow you to be sued? What if you made books which are contrary to Catholic teachings such as: The Joys of Premarital Sex, The Joys of Homosexual Sex; is it right for you to be vulnerable to lawsuits?"

    ATHEIST!.....JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN A "GOD" DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO EMBRACE POLITICAL CORRECTNESS.

    YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF SODOMITES, FEMINAZIS, OR ABORTIONISTS JUST BECAUSE THE CHURCH DOESN'T APPROVE OF IT.

    YOU DON'T HAVE TO LET YOUR SISTER TURN INTO A SLUTTY "HOE" AND ACCEPT THAT AS A SIGN OF SOCIAL PROGRESS.


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  • rickymrickym Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    ATHEIST!.....JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN A "GOD" DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO EMBRACE POLITICAL CORRECTNESS.

    YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF SODOMITES, FEMINAZIS, OR ABORTIONISTS JUST BECAUSE THE CHURCH DOESN'T APPROVE OF IT.

    YOU DON'T HAVE TO LET YOUR SISTER TURN INTO A SLUTTY "HOE" AND ACCEPT THAT AS A SIGN OF SOCIAL PROGRESS.


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    i think this is a case of 'psychological projection'
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

    "Psychological projection or projection bias is a psychological defense mechanism where a person subconsciously denies his or her own attributes, thoughts, and emotions, which are then ascribed to the outside world, usually to other people. Thus, projection involves imagining or projecting the belief that others originate those feelings.[1]
    Projection reduces anxiety by allowing the expression of the unwanted unconscious impulses or desires without letting the conscious mind recognize them.
    An example of this behavior might be blaming another for self failure. The mind may avoid the discomfort of consciously admitting personal faults by keeping those feelings unconscious, and by redirecting libidinal satisfaction by attaching, or "projecting," those same faults onto another person or object."
  • mistervontriermistervontrier The Antichrist PExer
    ATHEIST!.....JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN A "GOD" DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO EMBRACE POLITICAL CORRECTNESS.

    YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF SODOMITES, FEMINAZIS, OR ABORTIONISTS JUST BECAUSE THE CHURCH DOESN'T APPROVE OF IT.

    YOU DON'T HAVE TO LET YOUR SISTER TURN INTO A SLUTTY "HOE" AND ACCEPT THAT AS A SIGN OF SOCIAL PROGRESS.


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    and just because you believe in a god, you think you have the right to shove your religion to other people's throats like a dick.

    if you really are a children of god and a good christian, then put your christian values to good use and forgive us sinners. :rotflmao:
  • titaAuroratitaAurora Member PExer
    Whatever we say or do our goal should not be to cause scandal.

    1 Timothy 1:5 Now the goal of instruction is charity from a pure heart, and a good conscience, and an unfeigned faith.

    Also Saint Paul says:do not choose to be conformed to this age

    Romans 12:2 And do not choose to be conformed to this age, but instead choose to be reformed in the newness of your mind, so that you may demonstrate what is the will of God: what is good, and what is well-pleasing, and what is perfect.

    In his saying that to the Romans, they are being told that there is something wrong in becoming one with the age or the world. He tells them to set their sights on something else. He tells them that they should renew their minds so that they can discern the will of God, to discern that which is good and pleasing and perfect.

    Does it mean that he was telling them that they must be intellectual powerhouses to discern the will of God? No. What he was telling them and is telling us is that in order to discern God’s will for us in this life we must not think in worldly terms. St. Paul is telling us that if we want to know God’s will we must first renew how we think. That we should have the mind of a child of God who is longing to know what it is God is calling them to. Let’s face it, if one does not have that longing to know what God is asking of them, they won’t spend time or energy discerning God’s will.
  • AgatonAgaton Member PExer
    very good outfit and hairdo Ms Aurora, by the way I dedicated this song for you in commemoration of ROT freedom of singing.

    [VIDEO]
  • Artemio RicarteArtemio Ricarte Political Soldier PExer
    rickym wrote: »
    i think this is a case of 'psychological projection'
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

    Why would I need a defense mechanism? I merely made a statement of socio-political fact. I'm willing to believe that not all atheists have swallowed political correctness hook-line-and sinker.

    Let me give you an example:

    Many western european atheists support muslim immigration into their countries even to the extent of allowing sharia law be introduced into muslim ghettos once occupied by secular whites, all this in the name of "multiculturalism".

    You see how ridiculous that is?...atheists trying to pander to islamic sentiment?...and yet this is real, a situation caused by modern atheism being dominated by political correctness.

    Watch this atheist Pat Condell, he's hardly someone I can agree with but he does have a point against a seeming "atheist orthodoxy" from which he had been "excommunicated"...........

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC35KHoI6_E
  • kuroihikarikuroihikari Moderator PExer
    I don't think anyone who cries to the state over a picture of a fake Jesus with a penis on it has a right to complain about political correctness.

    Seems to me this anti-political correctness movement is nothing but Christian fundamentalism in defensive mode.
  • Artemio RicarteArtemio Ricarte Political Soldier PExer
    I don't think anyone who cries to the state over a picture of a fake Jesus with a penis on it has a right to complain about political correctness.

    But then "political correctness" nga eh....the aim is to make the majority give in to the demands of a minority.

    Buti sana if the minority demand is for "inclusion" into society, sure maganda iyon, why not? But it becomes abusive when the minority insists that everybody else makes adjustments while they have the attitude as if they were exempt from making adjustments themselves, para bang the minority expects the state to provide special treatment as if they were a "protected species" by the simple virtue that they are a minority.
    Seems to me this anti-political correctness movement is nothing but Christian fundamentalism in defensive mode.

    Anong movement?...wala iyan, genuine "freethinking" atheists today are few and far between. Halos wala naman atheista ngayon capable of independent thought. They merely moved on from what they believed as a "jailhouse" of rules and regulations into yet another prison. :lol:
  • sweet_atheasweet_athea Member PExer
    there are two things that count most
    your Choice and your Personality

    Your choice or decision : no matter how correct and how white is the other side You would still hate it.

    Your personality: it means what constitute you, If you embraced bad things naturally all that comes out from you are evil, that affects also your freewill of choice.

    Therefore I hereby conclude personalityis important and must be protected fromchildhood to adulthood.

    Truthful and honest objections from the learned are welcome.

    Now!

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  • ALASKADOR5ALASKADOR5 Banned by Admin PExer
    facebook.com/ drawmohammed
    sikat na page, nabalita pa sa CNN noong pinasara ito
    tapos bumawi bumalik pero ganun ulit nasara ito
    marami akong kilalang mga taga dyan 1 lang sa kanila na-add ko bago sirain ang page na yan. Isinara ang page kasi bigotry daw tawag dun.

    Pero yung every body draw jesus day (Indonesia) ayon sa facebook wala raw silang balak isara ito dahil "Freedom of Expression" daw.

    Bias.

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