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Inamin ni Sev Sarmenta na wala nang nanonood ng PBA

booksalebooksale PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
http://sports.inquirer.net/7388/a-shorter-pba-game

As I moved around Naga City on still another college recruitment trip for high school students, I was hoping to see restaurants or beer hubs where folk would be watching the PBA games last Wednesday. It is a common sight in key provincial cities to see fans huddled together, enjoying company, beer and food while taking in basketball action.

Intriguingly, there was no such sight...


The question that is perhaps worth asking is not if the PBA is still a viable television and advertising vehicle but if Filipinos are still watching the game. Of course, they watch the NBA games and many young Filipinos can talk about the players and teams like experts. UAAP and NCAA games are still being followed because of school spirit and there’s nothing like rooting for one’s alma mater.

But outside of those basketball formats, are young Filipinos still watching Filipino sports programs? Are they spending more time on social networks rather than watching Pinoy TV? Filipinos still play the game passionately and most basketball courts, whether with cement or wooden floors are still filled up with alumni teams, office squads or groups of friends who just want to work up a sweat. Connecting this passion to PBA watching may be the next big marketing challenge.

There’s no question that the PBA needs to market its stars and the next TV coveror will work on that passionately. But what may also have to be worked on is the game itself. It has to be made faster, more action-packed than it already is. The 12-minute quarter, clearly borrowed from the NBA and installed as early as the first year of the PBA, may need a review.

A 10-minute quarter may be a more interesting option. The present 12-minute quarter allows for more advertising to be accommodated. But since there aren’t that many ads of late, it might be intriguing to tighten the PBA game just a tad. The pace will quicken and the players will be forced to perform at an even faster rate.

The PBA is still the league with best players in the country and it really doesn’t matter whether the myth of the Filipino cager being the best in Asia has been shattered by expanded geographical boundaries and the arrival of bigger players with Asian lineage. Tinkering with a great product won’t harm it at all, even if the PBA or basketball purists think otherwise.
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  • booksalebooksale PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    sev is clueless. nobody cares about the pba anymore because of it's selfish attitude of hoarding the best players and denying their availability to the national team.

    kahit na anong gimik nyo (10-minute quarters? 3 pt dunks?) hindi na babalik ang mga fans. I hope the the PBA dies a slow and painful death.

    related items:
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    http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=368509

    PBA: "Only the Best Play Here"
    http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=483795
  • @TS
    so masaya ka na?? hindi ka na makatulog sa lagay na yan...
    well, namnamin mo na yang pagiging masaya mo,
    nakakaawa ka lang kasi ilan lang kayong parang ***** sa ginagawa nyo
  • wala na tayong magagawa diyan TS, kaya nga may Smart Gilas na.. Kung ayaw ng PBA magpadala ng player para sa NT eh problema na nila yun.
  • nasa mentalidad na rin kasi ng mga kabataan ngayon yan. pag local = pangit. e. mga ugok din mga NBA experts kuno sa kanto pero pag kinausap mo about sa Pba, walang alam. para namang maabot mo yung kayang gawin ng NBA. :lol: but the end of the day, PBA lang talaga ang meron tayo. magtiyaga na lang kayo. nood na lang kayo ng live sa Araneta, Cuneta o sa kahit ano pa mang venues para mas maapreciate niyo ang PBA. iba talaga pag live. kahit Upper B pa yan. :)
    ---
    suggestion ko lang sa PBA. since hindi naman napupuno ang Big dome, ni hindi nga umaabot sa kalhati. e mas maganda seguro kung murahan nila ang ticket price. may down to %50? kasi pag ganun, mas madalas na akong manonood. at baka magsama ng ilang kaibigan, hindi gaganda ang kita in terms of tickets price/ticket sold kasi murang mura ang ticket. but segurado dadami at least kahit papaano ang tao, at maraming tao, maraming advertisment. at dun na lang sila bumawi. *okay*
  • torchie82torchie82 PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    booksale wrote: »
    sev is clueless. nobody cares about the pba anymore because of it's selfish attitude of hoarding the best players and denying their availability to the national team.

    kahit na anong gimik nyo (10-minute quarters? 3 pt dunks?) hindi na babalik ang mga fans. I hope the the PBA dies a slow and painful death.

    related items:
    RP should not participate anymore in FIBA and Olympic qualifiers after 2010
    http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=368509

    PBA: "Only the Best Play Here"
    http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=483795

    :eek::eek::eek:
  • I don't think Sev needs to cop to anything anyway. Hindi na niya kailiangan umamin regarding the sharp dip in the PBA's popularity. Kitang-kita naman sa TV eh, most games nilalangaw talaga. Finals lang ata napupuno ang venue. Kung hindi pa BGK at BMEG ang maglalaro at the same time, nanganganib pa ang scenario na yon. Anybody remember last confy? Kung hindi pa nang-hoard ng tickets si MVP at "pinilit" yung employees niya manood baka hindi napuno ang venue. Sa totoo lang, I've noticed over the last few conferences na konti talaga ang nanood. Yung last BMEG vs. Ginebra game this confy, ang daming vacant seats. Pag nag-pan yung camera kitang kita sa TV (pero hindi naman nilangaw, hindi lang punuan like dati).

    There are just too many things going against the PBA:

    1. Other forms of entertainment
    • handheld, console, and PC computer games
    • satellite, cable, and broadband TV with dozens and dozens, maybe hundreds, of channels
    • the internet
    • hollywood movies and TV series that are easy to access over the net
    • stupid cheesy local and foreign telenovelas

    Even my hyper-active 11-year old nephew has no interest in the PBA. Pag nanonood ako sa TV ng PBA, gustong ipalipat ang channel. Asar!!!

    2. The PBA's awful current broadcast situation. It's been relegated to second or third fiddle status in Studio23. Napaka inconsistent ng schedule ng PBA games (or at least, inconveniently different from what we've been used to for years). Being a blocktimer sucks big time. Yung pro league pa ang nag-aadjust sa UAAP, NCAA, at Azkals. Delayed telecasts? One game only on Sundays? Ano ba yan?!?! Asar!!!

    3. Other sports and leagues (UAAP, NCAA, NBA, Azkals, WWE, Euro Futbol leagues, Pro Tennis tournaments, etc). I'll go back to my nephew to stress a point. He studies in Ateneo GS. He loves futbol (something I understand since I also came from the same school. Ateneo always had a strong futbol culture, especially in grade school and high school. Tignan nyo yung campus - puro futbol field). He loves the Azkals kasi nakikita daw niya minsan sa campus pag may ensayo sila. He hasn't missed a televized Azkals game. He plans on buying full home and away Guirado or Caligdong Azkal kits (jersies to you bball fans). Usong-uso daw sa school.

    Idol niya si Leo Messi kasi, like my nephew, maliit siya pero sikat (mayaman pa). Nanonood din siya ng EPL sa Star Sports. Dati nanonood din siya ng Primera Liga sa cable kaso wala na ata ngayon yon. Nagpabili pa yan sa abroad ng FC Barcelona jersey na pagkamahal-mahal. He eagerly scours the net looking for skills and goals vidz of Messi and CRonaldo. I have yet to see or hear about him play the game of futbol, pero I have a feeling he'll try his hand (or foot) with the game one of these days.

    He has a lot of WWE merchandise (t-shirts, video games, action figures, etc.). I've teased him about his stupid obsession with this fake sport (it's really a god-awful telenovela with 'roided ham actors really). He doesn't care.

    He also idolizes Rafa Nadal kasi gusto daw niya maging ganoon kalaki ang mga braso niya (if I'm not mistaken he takes up tennis on the weekends and during the summers). He forced my bro-in-law to buy him Nadal's Nike sneakers (ouch and mahal). Pati yung strings ng raketa niya parang sa idol niya (Babolat). Buti na lang he didn't get Nadal's habit of picking at his buttcrack. May crush din siya kay Wozniacki at lalo na kay Sharapova (sino ba naman ang wala). Nagpupuyat pa yan kapag may Grand Slam tournament na televized.

    He also follows F1 and MotoGP. He follows Sebastian Vettel and Valentino Rossi. Nagparinig pa yan sa daddy niya na ibenta na lang yung Suzuki Gixxer niya at palitan ng Yamaha R1 (para pareho daw sila ni Rossi) Paano na yan, nasa Ducati na si Rossi ... di hamak na mas mahal ang Ducati sa Yamaha. Sheesh.

    Naglalaro rin siya ng basketball. Idol din daw niya si Wade at si DRose. Meron din siyang sapatos ni Wade (kaso nga lang, yung Converse pa siya endorser, hindi yung Nike). Malamang magpapabili na naman yan pag labas ng report card niya. Meron siyang NBA game sa lahat ng gadget niya (psp, wii, ps3). Nanonood din siya ng UAAP, pero kapag ADMU lang ang naglalaro. Favorite player niya si Emman Monfort (I guess for the same reason na gusto niya si Messi and DRose... maliit na magaling).

    Nung nag-PBA yung Gilas, nanood din siya ng konti. Impressed siya kay Casio, Lassiter, at fellow Atenean Tiu. He also followed the team during the FIBA games here. Ewan ko lang kung masu-sustain yung interest niya kasi hindi naman palagi may Gilas sa TV.

    I once excitedly asked him to come with me to watch a live PBA game. Ayaw sumama ... didn't even bat an eyelash. My invitation didn't even ellicit a moment's break in his concentration, as he showed little to no interest. Deadma. He just kept on mashing buttons on his psp. If I maybe asked him to play a pick-up game in the village park, baka pumayag pa yon.

    Do you see the problem here? My nephew (and probably millions of little kids like him) has a gazillion interests going for him (a helluva lot more than I had when I was the same age). The thing is, the PBA isn't one of them. He enjoys sports (including basketball), but has no interest in the PBA or any of its players or teams. And I doubt he's alone. Legions of his friends, classmates, and peers probably feel the same way. Alam nyo naman sa school at sa village barkada, pare-pareho ang mga interes nyang mga yan. Birds of a feather ika nga. And no, my nephew isn't a one-off weirdo. Truth is, he's quite normal with not-so-unusual interests.

    I seriously doubt that the game of basketball itself is the problem. The game hasn't changed in any major way for ages. Like I said, my nephew and millions of other little kids like him still play the game here in our country. Just check every public court in every kanto ... sigurado may naglalaro diyan.

    I really think its down to the way the sport of basketball, as an institution, is being run here in our country. Bad management decisions in the PBA (lalo na yung advertising lockout), unfair trades that shift the balance of power to one or two teams, the Fil-Sham disaster, lack of team variety (9 or 10 teams only), repeated past humiliations and failures in regional competitions from our supposed "best in Asia National Teams" after getting "bigged up" and "over-hyped" by bball aficionados and the stupid media. Sana na lang sinabi nila to manage our expections instead. Para hindi napahiya at nadismaya yung mga taong naniwala at naloko (myself included).

    All of these things have hurt the PBA immensely. Is it a question of just improving the promotions and marketing strategy? Or maybe moving to a "friendlier" TV coveror and channel? I'm sure those thing'll help. Pero patch-up job lang yan. The PBA needs to re-evaluate why it is here in the first place ... to be a RELIABLE source of EXCITING, BALANCED, and COMPETITIVE baskeball games for the viewing public. They got the exciting part down (sometimes lang ... a blowout game here and there is unavoidable, lalo na kapag powerhouse team versus also-ran team ang naglalaban) ... its the reliable, balanced, and competitive bits that are a bit wanting.

    Sana maayos ito soon. I'd love to spend more time with my nephew watching PBA games over some soda and chicharon. That is impossible at the moment because I'm the only interested party. Asar!!!

    The PBA still has a few old-timer fans like myself (and the many PEXers who frequent this board) as a captive audience. I think it's the disinterested younger generation they need to connect with.

    BTW, pasensya na ... medyo long winded.

    *okay*
  • James Ty IIIJames Ty III PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Sev is just being realistic. Having covered the PBA for many years, he has seen a lot of ups and downs the league has gone through.

    I agree with him that the PBA needs to improve the way it markets the league and its players. And I believe the TV5 and AKTV on IBC people are willing to spend money to market the PBA and help revive its struggling popularity.

    I myself have followed the league for a long time and I was really dismayed with the very lean crowd that watched last night's game. Even the UAAP games yesterday drew bigger crowds although the four schools that played aren't really crowd-drawers unlike Ateneo and La Salle.
  • @TheMaharlikan

    Long-winded nga pero sapul naman pre *okay*

    Ganyan din yung mga pamangkin ko - mahilig sa basketball pero NBA at UAAP ang gusto. Gusto rin nila ngayon ang tennis at azkals (pero not necessarily football in general). Pero nasa-spark na yung interest nila little by little. Tinatanong nila ngayon sa akin yung mga Euro at South American football players (eh kokonti lang naman ang knowledge ko diyan). Napilitan tuloy ako mag-youtube ng mga clips at mag-wiki ng info :rotflmao:

    Napapansin ko rin yang attitude na yan sa mga bata dito sa subdivision namin. Mahihilig naman sa basketball pero parang walang interest sa PBA. Kung meron man, hindi die-hard fanatical like me. Casual interest lang ba.

    Nung naglaro yung azkals dito sa Pinas kalaban yung Sri Lanka (?) a few weeks ago, maririnig mo talaga sa labas ng kalye yung hiyawan at mga sigawan ng mga kapitbahay while watching the game on TV. Nung nag-yosi ako sa labas, nakita ko yung mangilan-ngilang binatilyong nagkukwentuhan about the game. Kapag Pacman fight lang nangyayari yun dati.

    I'm not sure kung knowledgable banter and discussion, but I am sure they were pretty pumped up, animated, and excited (ginaya pa yung matador/toro spiel ni Caligdong at Girado). Like my pamangkins, siguro na-spark na rin yung interest nila to try and watch others things/sports. Diyan naman nagsisimula yan eh.

    Dapat talaga kumilos at maging agresibo na PBA. Di na pwede yung pa-petiks petiks at yung makalumang pamamalakad nila. Ang dami na nilang kalaban at kahati sa attensiyon ng publiko ngayon.
  • Sev is just being realistic. Having covered the PBA for many years, he has seen a lot of ups and downs the league has gone through.

    I agree with him that the PBA needs to improve the way it markets the league and its players. And I believe the TV5 and AKTV on IBC people are willing to spend money to market the PBA and help revive its struggling popularity.

    I myself have followed the league for a long time and I was really dismayed with the very lean crowd that watched last night's game. Even the UAAP games yesterday drew bigger crowds although the four schools that played aren't really crowd-drawers unlike Ateneo and La Salle.

    Nakaka dismaya talaga. At hindi lang yung game kagabi ang matumal yung tao. Halos every game day ngayon ganyan na talaga sir. Obyus talaga sa TV eh.

    Hindi ko napanood yung UAAP games na nasabi mo, pero kung hindi ADMU/DLSU ang naglaro at puno pa rin yung Araneta compared to PBA ........ well, that speaks volumes about the PBA's problems doesn't it?

    Ano na ba nangyayari dito?!?
  • James Ty IIIJames Ty III PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    As you have mentioned, may pagkayabang kasi ang PBA. The league's officials have remained complacent and some of them are not in tune with the times.

    Kailangan talaga na makuha ang PBA ng young blood to help run the league. Getting young executives to help run the board of governors is a good start.
  • BTW, I'm not saying that the PBA should quash the rise in popularity of football and the azkals in this country. Gusto ko rin sumikat ang game na yan sa Pinas para may variety naman. At lalong lalo ko gusto makita na magsunod sunod ang panalo ng azkals. Syempre, Pinoy ako eh. Tingin ko mas may chance tayo diyan kasi kahit na mga pandak na tulad ni Messi, Iniesta, at Rooney eh kumakamada sa World Cup (naks, na-wiki ko ang mga player na yan).

    Gusto ko rin magkaroon tayo ng Tennis player na makakaabot sa mga Grand Slam events tulad ng US, Australian, French Open at Wimbledon. I think the closest we've ever had was Felix Barrientos noong 80's.

    Wag lang sana tuluyang mabulok ang PBA dahil sa kanilang outdated at complacent ways. Ang tagal ko nang sinubaybayan yan (mid 80's pa). Sayang naman.
  • barubal08barubal08 PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    E kasi naman,

    -Mahal ang ticket!

    -Ang daming no bearing games!

    -Hindi balance ang mga team!

    -Bad marketing strategy!

    -Air21!

    -Puro Fil-am, hindi makaMASA! Basta daw kasi fil-am magaling!

    -Overhyped sa Azkals! (Puro pogi daw kasi) Pinoy pride ika nga! WAGAS!

    -Ang daming manipulasyon at under the table na deal!

    -Lopsided trades!

    -Walang matinong TV Coveror!


    *****
    Pansin ko lang nung nanonood ako ng ATENEO-LASALLE game.. Ang daming commercial, sa PBA ata eh iisa o dalawa lang..
  • booksalebooksale PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    jcbernardo wrote: »
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    suggestion ko lang sa PBA. since hindi naman napupuno ang Big dome, ni hindi nga umaabot sa kalhati. e mas maganda seguro kung murahan nila ang ticket price. may down to %50? kasi pag ganun, mas madalas na akong manonood. at baka magsama ng ilang kaibigan, hindi gaganda ang kita in terms of tickets price/ticket sold kasi murang mura ang ticket. but segurado dadami at least kahit papaano ang tao, at maraming tao, maraming advertisment. at dun na lang sila bumawi. *okay*

    kahit na bawasan mo ng 50%, wala pa ring manonood.
  • death_rowdeath_row PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    People's interest in the PBA didnot deteriorate because of its lack of interest in supporting the national team. Simula binaboy ang liga, unti-unti na nawala ang mga nanunuod.

    The PBA also lost is physical brand of play, which was one of the admiration of the Filipino people. Kunti na lang ang mga nagsasapakan ngayon, is it a coincidence? NO. The PBA is protecting its players.Is this a good thing for the players? Yes. But a bad thing for the PBA.
  • booksalebooksale PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    death_row wrote: »
    People's interest in the PBA didnot deteriorate because of its lack of interest in supporting the national team. Simula binaboy ang liga, unti-unti na nawala ang mga nanunuod.

    lots of factors contributed to the loss of popularity. the influx of fil-ams and shams. the loss of #1 status in asia.

    but that did not compare to the perceived notion na the pba is hoarding it's players even after graham lim was deported from the BAP. (in effect, the PBA lied to the public about the reasons for not cooperating with the BAP and the National team.). going back to 3 conferences was a tip-off. denying availability for all their players was next. then bragging that "only the best play here." (meaning what? the best players are not playing for the NT?)

    this has nothing to do with basketball's popularity. many still watch the NBA and UAAP. just not the PBA. mabuti pa mamatay na lang sila para may bagong liga na mag-cocooperate at magpapahiram ng players sa NT. the PBA is not a good investment anymore if you're a business.
  • at isa pa, wala na tayong mga players gaya ng mga halimaw maglaro sa loob (Patrimonio, Paras, Locsin, Asaytono etc.) pure shooters as in malingat ka lang pag binantayan mo sigurado magsisisi ka (Caidic, Cabahug, Solis etc.) exciting maglaro because of slashing ability (Samboy, Alvarez, Meneses etc.) at iba pa! Puro mga Tisoy at Egoy na nakikita ko ngayon!
  • booksale wrote: »
    kahit na bawasan mo ng 50%, wala pa ring manonood.

    so ano suggest mong solution? hay, PBA hate thread lang pala to.
  • gusto ko din mag comment, :)

    I was a diehard Ginebra/PBA fan up until the 2007-08 season, active pako nun sa mga forums, ngayon tamang observer na lang. Nagsimula mawala interest ko sa PBA dahil na rin sa mga lopsided trades, negative issues, management etc. Nung si Eala ang commish, natuwa ako sa mga plano niya. He had a vision. Pero nung mawala siya, parang backwards na ang approach ng PBA.

    Nagpatuloy yung mga lopsided deals, paulit ulit na lang yung mga teams na pumapasok sa playoffs, paulit ulit na lang yung mga teams na nalalaglag after elims. SMC has 3 1/2 teams (?) while PLDT has 2 1/2 teams (?). Nung nabalitaan kong papasok ang Phoenix Petroleum, I was excited pero nung binara sila ng SMC, lalo nakong nawalan ng interest. Clearly, wala nang balanse sa liga.

    Honestly, may nasusubaybayan ko pang other leagues/Sports, NBA, UAAP, NCAA, Tennis & Football. I'm a sports fan in general. PBA should re-evaluate the league's mission & vision. Scrap the old 3-conference format! turuan niyo namang mag tagalog yung mga fil-foreign players na yung iba dekada nang andito kahit ata national anthem hindi makanta, how can you reach the masses? EXPAND! yung mga teams ng SMC, pede pang makabuo ng 2-3 teams. Lastly, wag nang magyabang, tangapin na ang katotohanan na 2011 na, hindi na 1970's, 80's or 90's.

    The rise of Football (Azkals) may have something to do with the PBA's decline in popularity but Basketball will always be the premiere sports in the Philippines.
  • king_lek12 wrote: »
    gusto ko din mag comment, :)

    The rise of Football (Azkals) may have something to do with the PBA's decline in popularity but Basketball will always be the premiere sports in the Philippines.

    i don't think the Azkals has something to do with this. ganito na ang estado ng PBA since early 2000s pa, bago pa man sumikat ang Azkals
  • death_rowdeath_row PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    booksale wrote: »
    lots of factors contributed to the loss of popularity. the influx of fil-ams and shams. the loss of #1 status in asia.

    but that did not compare to the perceived notion na the pba is hoarding it's players even after graham lim was deported from the BAP. (in effect, the PBA lied to the public about the reasons for not cooperating with the BAP and the National team.). going back to 3 conferences was a tip-off. denying availability for all their players was next. then bragging that "only the best play here." (meaning what? the best players are not playing for the NT?)

    this has nothing to do with basketball's popularity. many still watch the NBA and UAAP. just not the PBA. mabuti pa mamatay na lang sila para may bagong liga na mag-cocooperate at magpapahiram ng players sa NT. the PBA is not a good investment anymore if you're a business.

    I wouldn't count the people's lack of interest to the PBA in regards to it losing Asia's number 1 basketball status. Seriously, do you think the mass have seen other Asian leagues? ABL is probably the only other Asian league that is broadcasted in the country. But the PBA has already lost its appeal to the mass even before the ABL was created.

    Dont hate on the PBA just because they didn't want to send their players for the national team. Because clearly, this is not the real reason why they have lost people's admiration. the PBA has lost it glamor even before Gilas was created. Even before they stopped sending their players to the national team. This all started when players were being bought already.
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