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CaptainCharismaCaptainCharisma Moderator PEx Moderator
just like in the basketball sections

fire away!

Deloitte Money League (based on revenues)
1 (1) Real Madrid - €438.6m
2 (2) FC Barcelona - €398.1m
3 (3) Manchester United - €349.8m
4 (4) Bayern Munich - €323m
5 (5) Arsenal - €274.1m
6 (6) Chelsea - €255.9m
7 (10) AC Milan - €235.8m
8 (7) Liverpool - €225.3m
9 (9) Internazionale - €224.8m
10 (8) Juventus - €205m
11 (20) Manchester City - €152.8m
12 (15) Tottenham Hotspur - €146.3m
13 (11) Hamburg - €146.2m
14 (13) Lyon - €146.1m
15 (14) Marseille - €141.1m
16 (16) Schalke 04 - €139.8m
17 (18) Atlético Madrid - €124.5m
18 (12) AS Roma - €122.7m
19 (n/a) VfB Stuttgart - €114.8m
20 (n/a) Aston Villa - €109.4m
Spanish giants Real Madrid and Barcelona remain in the top two places in the latest Deloitte Money League, published on Thursday.

The top six places in the table remain unchanged with Real and Barca followed by Manchester United, Bayern Munich, Arsenal and Chelsea. Real have revenues of £373 million (€438.6m) compared with £338.6 million (€398.1m) at Barca and £297.5 million (€349.8m) at Old Trafford.

Real's revenues are up 9.3%, Barca by 8.8% and United 7%.

The financial study ranks clubs purely based upon the revenue they bring in rather than the wealth of their owners or profit and loss from 2009-10 accounts. The earning-power of the Premier League means seven of the 20 clubs are from England.


  • kaboom_mitkaboom_mit i kill trolls for breakfast PExer
    im sure someone will react in your thread.... :rotflmao:
  • TheCitizenTheCitizen Banned by Admin PExer
    Manchester United Debt Hits £1.1 billion: BBC Panorama Find Evidence that Glazers Are In Very Real Trouble

    Manchester United’s owners are £1.1bn in debt – £400m more than previously known – after borrowing extensively against their shopping mall business.

    BBC Panorama has found evidence that the Glazer family’s debt levels may threaten their hold on the club.

    A spokesman for the American family has said it holds more than £2bn in assets.

    But the extent of the debt owed by the Glazers is likely to fuel a continuing revolt by some supporters, who oppose their ownership of the club.

    Mortgage documents seen by the BBC show that the Glazers have borrowed £388m ($570m) against shopping malls and £66m ($95m) against their American National Football League team, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

    In addition to their mortgages in the US, a portion of the Glazer family’s £700m Manchester United debt will soon see them charged interest at a rate of 16.25%.

    Fans fear that, despite the club’s record of success on the pitch, the Glazers’ leveraged buy-out of United has saddled the club with debt and that may mean that there is no spare money in the future to buy a new generation of star players.

    Disappointed fans have launched the “green and gold” campaign that resurrects the original team colours in protest over the Glazers’ ownership.

    Their numbers have reached 158,000 and former United star David Beckham has signalled his support.

    They point to the £80m sale of star striker Cristiano Ronaldo last year and note that he has not been replaced by a player of similar quality. Yet ticket prices have gone up by more than a third.

    City analyst Andy Green, 37, is the disgruntled Manchester United supporter who first uncovered the extent of the Glazers’ debts.

    Mr Green said: “They borrowed more money at inflated valuations right at the top of the cycle.

    “These are people who tell us not to worry about Manchester United debt because they are great businessmen. In their core business in the US they got it absolutely wrong.”

    Dave Whelan, Chairman of Wigan Athletic, told Panorama: “I don’t think anybody can be satisfied with how Manchester United are being run… they have got somewhere in the order of three-quarters of a billion pounds worth of debt. That has got to be eliminated and eliminated quickly.”

    The Glazer family’s main assets are the shopping centre business in America, First Allied Corporation, along with Manchester United and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

    First Allied is a private business and its accounts are not publicly available. But Mr Green discovered that the Glazers’ shopping mall mortgages had been bundled with other loans as Commercial Mortgage Backed Securities.

    Those bundles are publicly traded and therefore require the Glazers to provide detailed information on all the mortgages, which are then publicly available in the US.

    Mr Green found mortgages – confirmed by the BBC – on 63 of 64 First Allied shopping centres, totalling £388m ($570m).

    Most of those were taken out with Lehman Brothers before the US investment banking giant went bankrupt, triggering the global banking crisis in 2008.

    When they bought Manchester United in 2005, the Glazer family borrowed £500m and paid the remaining £272 million in cash.

    Mr Green found that the Glazers had remortgaged 25 of their shopping centres in the six months before the takeover.

    He believes the family borrowed against their US properties to pay for United: “At the time when they had to present a huge amount of cash over here in the UK they borrowed a huge amount of extra money in the US and publicly they didn’t buy anything else that year.”

    The situation at Manchester United reflects the wider issue within the Premier League, where clubs like Liverpool and West Ham are struggling with huge debts and FA Cup finalists Portsmouth barely staved off bankruptcy.

    Both the Premier League and the FA declined requests for interviews on the subject of debt in football. (BBC Sport)
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    Manchester United Ponder €21 Million Bid For Barcelona's Yaya Toure

    May 26, 2010

    Manchester United are reportedly set to offer €21 million to prise Ivorian midfielder Yaya Toure away from Barcelona.

    Manager Sir Alex Ferguson is understood to be keen to strengthen United's midfield given the constant injuries plaguing Owen Hargreaves and the loss of form from the likes of Michael Carrick and Anderson.

    A report in Spanish publication Sport claims that Ferguson has identified the 27-year-old as a key target in bolstering United's capabilities in the middle of the park, particularly from a defensive viewpoint.

    Manchester City have secured the signing of Yaya Toure on a five-year deal from Barcelona.

    July 2, 2010

    The Ivory Coast international midfielder returned from World Cup duty on Monday following the African side’s exit from the tournament.

    Toure has completed a medical with City physios in Spain and also finalised the details of his switch from the Spanish Champions.

    The 27-year-old is one of the World’s most coveted midfield players. Signed in the summer of 2007, Toure has since enjoyed a decorated three-year spell at the Nou Camp. He picked up a Champions League winner’s medal in 2009, when he played in the 1-0 final victory over Manchester United. He was also a regular in Barca’s 2008/09 and 2009/10 La Liga title winning sides.

    Coming off the back of Wednesday’s announcement of the signing of Valencia forward David Silva, manager Roberto Mancini was delighted to also secure the services of Toure. He said: “This is another fantastic signing for Manchester City, and I am very pleased Yaya has joined us, he is a very good player.

    “Everyone knows Yaya is a player that we have admired for a long time, and we would like to welcome him to Manchester City. He has played at the top level with Barcelona and I am sure he his experience and ability will be very important for us.”

    He will now enjoy a three-week holiday following Ivory Coast’s exit from the World Cup, before joining up with his new team-mates, including elder brother Kolo, for the forthcoming tour to the United States of America.
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    Manchester United wants David Silva

    May 15, 2010

    Manchester United are tipped to be the front-runners in securing the services of cash-strapped Valencia's impressive winger David Silva.

    The 24-year-old versatile Spaniard has been linked with a possible move to Old Trafford all season, and now it looks that his highly awaited £ 17.5 million move looks set to be confirmed when this transfer season opens.

    The Spain national team regular's exploits in the La Liga has earned him a host of top European admirers like Chelsea, Manchester City, Real Madrid, and Barcelona, all of whom have expressed their interest in the Spanish attacking midfielder who can also play in either wings with equal ease.

    But David Silva has expressed his interest in playing for the Red Devils' time and again and it looks that his dream might be fulfilled much to the joy of the United fans.


    Manchester City complete £24m David Silva transfer

    July 14, 2010

    Manchester City have completed the £24m transfer of Spain international winger David Silva from Valencia.

    Silva, 24, had a medical on Wednesday before signing a four-year contract at City, where he hopes to earn Champions League qualification next season.

    "I will be happy if at the end we are in the Champions League - or if we win a trophy," he told the club's website.

    "My first target is to get into the team, and then to fight for the league and the other competitions."

    Silva becomes City manager Roberto Mancini's third signing of the summer following the arrivals of Hamburg's German international defender Jerome Boateng and Ivory Coast midfielder Yaya Toure from Barcelona as the big-spending Blues resume their quest to establish themselves among the Premier League's elite.

    "Roberto Mancini and [chief executive] Garry Cook have told me we are building a very good team with some of the best players in the world and we are going to fight for honours," added the Spaniard.

    Silva will not join up with his new team-mates until after he returns from a holiday in the Canary Islands following his World Cup campaign with newly-crowned champions Spain.
  • TheCitizenTheCitizen Banned by Admin PExer
    Manchester United target Mario Balotelli

    July 12, 2010

    MARIO BALOTELLI'S agent insists Manchester United are still in the race to sign the Inter Milan striker.
    Balotelli, 19, is under contract with Inter for another three seasons and is also a target for United's bitter rivals Manchester City.

    It was rumoured Alex Ferguson had dropped his interest in landing the temperamental star but Mino Raiola claims the Premier League runners-up want his client at Old Trafford.

    Raiola said: "The interest of Manchester for Balotelli is concrete and both clubs have confirmed it.

    "The player is clearly happy to be followed by Ferguson.

    "But I cannot exclude that in the end the player will remain at Inter or play in a different club with respect to the English outfit.

    "In any case we will we will take every step with calmness and evaluate each time the situation."

    New Inter Milan coach Rafa Benitez has revealed he will not let any player leave the San Siro until he has had the chance to assess them fully in training.

    Benitez said: "I want to speak to Balotell and get to know him better as a person.

    "All the quality players are important to me but I need to see him, get to know him and see how he works."

    The club have placed a 35million euro price tag on Balotelli and Inter president Massimo Moratti claims they are unlikely to accept anything less.

    He said: "We don't have the need to sell the players on the cheap.

    "Whoever sits with us to negotiate, will never negotiate at a low price.

    "If they want our players, offers have to arrive and then we will see. But for the time being no players have asked me to be transferred."

    He added: "Mario wants more playing time and it's clear for a player of his age and his talent.

    "He is trying to find out what role he can have in the team, although in a great club like Inter no player has a place guaranteed."


    Mario Balotelli finally clinches £23m move to Manchester City as Roberto Mancini is reunited with ex-Inter Milan protege.

    August 13, 2010

    One of the transfer sagas of the summer is over.

    Manchester City have completed the signing of Italy striker Mario Balotelli from Inter Milan.

    The Eastlands outfit have been pursuing Balotelli for much of the summer and have finally landed him on a five-year deal after agreeing an undisclosed fee with Inter, understood to be worth an initial £20million, with up to £3m to come in add-ons.

    The combustible forward will not be available for Saturday's opening Barclays Premier League clash with Tottenham.

    Boss Roberto Mancini, who nurtured Balotelli at the San Siro before being sacked by Inter two years ago, said: 'I think that Mario is one of the best players of his age in Europe, and I very happy to be working with him again.

    'His style of play will suit the Premier League, and because he is still so young there is a big chance for him to improve. He is a strong and exciting player, and City fans will enjoy watching him.'
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    Manchester United keep their eye on Aston Villa's James Milner

    April 16, 2010

    Ferguson, who has already invested almost £20 million in new faces for next season by completing deals for Fulham defender Chris Smalling and Mexican forward Javier Hernandez, is understood to have a transfer fund of £80 million at his disposal for squad strengthening, despite the club's £716.5 million debt.

    And Villa midfielder Milner has emerged as a target under consideration at Old Trafford following his impressive campaign at Villa Park, which has seen him consolidate a place in Fabio Capello's England squad and earn a nomination for the PFA Young Player of the Year award.

    The 24 year-old is expected to open contract talks at Villa at the end of the season to replace the final two years of his deal with a £65,000-a-week four-year package.

    Ferguson remains determined to add a new goalkeeper and forward to his squad – with France No 1 Hugo Lloris and Real Madrid striker Karim Benzema top targets – before addressing his midfield options; hence the club's intention to remain abreast of Milner's situation at Villa.

    The United manager has been impressed by Milner's maturity this season and his ability to perform in a variety of positions for club and country.


    Manchester City agree deal to sign James Milner from Aston Villa

    August 14, 2010

    James Milner's protracted transfer to Manchester City has finally been agreed, with Stephen Ireland moving to Aston Villa as part of the deal in a package worth about £26m. Milner was heading to Manchester this afternoon for a medical, having already agreed personal terms with City on a lucrative long-term contract that will see him more than double his salary at Villa Park.

    Negotiations were accelerated in the wake of Milner's warning to City last night that he would remain at Villa if the transfer did not go through within the next 24 hours. The England international had become increasingly frustrated and uncomfortable with the situation but talks progressed swiftly this morning as City finally agreed a settlement with Ireland, paving the way for Milner to complete his move to Eastlands and bring an end to the summer's longest transfer saga.

    The 24-year-old played for Villa on Saturday, when he scored the third goal in a 3-0 victory over West Ham United. He left the field to a standing ovation and some Villa fans harboured hopes that he might turn his back on City, but that would only have happened had there been no agreement reached by the end of today.

    Instead Milner now becomes the latest piece in City's extraordinary summer rebuilding programme. Villa will be disappointed to see Milner leave the club but also relieved that Ireland will arrive in his place together with a fee of about £16m.
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    Manchester United target Middlesbrough winger Adam Johnson

    October 11, 2009

    Manchester United have pinpointed Middlesbrough winger as the long-term replacement for Ryan Giggs, according to a report in the Sunday Mirror.

    Brian McNally writes: "Manchester United will head a posse of Premier League clubs trying to pinch much-coveted Middlesbrough winger Adam Johnson in a cut-price January deal."

    McNally adds: "The boyhood Old Trafford fan has been tracked by Fergie for well over a year. He sees the left-sided midfielder, who can also play on the right, as a possible long-term replacement for Ryan Giggs."

    The 22-year-old winger has been in fine form in the Championship, scoring five goals and providing four assists in 11 appearances for Middlesbrough so far this season.

    Johnson is out of contract at the end of the 2009/2010 campaign and is reportedly being tracked by a host of clubs including Spurs, Everton, Fulham and Sunderland.

    Manchester City sign Adam Johnson from Middlesbrough

    February 1, 2010

    Manchester City swooped to seal the signing of Middlesbrough winger Adam Johnson with minutes to spare at the end of the January transfer window.

    Johnson travelled to Manchester for talks on Monday afternoon after the two clubs agreed an undisclosed fee.

    The 22-year-old passed a medical and signed a contract until June 2014.

    City boss Roberto Mancini said: "Adam is a very good player with fantastic potential, and as a club we are always keen to sign British talent."

    Johnson will wear the number 11 shirt for City, and goes straight into Mancini's squad for Saturday's trip to Hull.
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    Manchester United set transfer sights on Edin Dzeko

    June 5, 2010

    Sir Alex Ferguson is hoping to bring the Bosnian international to Old Trafford in order to boost his side's firepower.

    And while the Bundesliga outfit is asking for what the site describes as a "fairly inflated" fee of £34 million, Sir Alex is thought to be considering an offer of around £25 million.

    Local rivals Manchester City are also in the hunt for 24-year-old Dzeko, who has scored a total of 65 goals in the last two years.

    And while City would be more likely to win a straight bidding war, with United's debt considered to be an obstacle, the player himself is said to be more interested in the latter club - particularly as he has been linked to Old Trafford in the past.

    With Sir Alex promised sufficient funds to boost his squad this summer, Dzeko may well be a high priority as weaknesses in United's strikeforce were exposed last season - Dimitar Berbatov failing to live up to expectations and a record transfer fee after injuries limited Wayne Rooney and Michael Owen's playing time.

    In addition to the English clubs, AC Milan are showing interest in the Wollfsburg frontman.

    Star Striker Dzeko signs for Manchester City

    Jan 7, 2011

    “They have been playing well this season. I have watched them a lot on television. Now the speculation is over and I just want to do my best.”

    Bosnian star Dzeko, who has most recently been on a winter break with former club Wolfsburg, has no doubt why he joined the Blues.

    “Everybody speaks about City having lots of money but it is not about that. It is about ambition and I have spoken to coach Mancini and he told me ‘this is the best club for you’,” he explained in his excellent English.

    “City are playing for first place in the Premier League and that is what I want. I am excited to play alongside players such as Tevez and Toure who I have only seen on the television and to be in the same team as players I have played against such as Boateng and Kompany.

    “They will help me achieve my goal to be better in the future. I want to show the fans why the club paid the money for me. Everyone expects goals and I want to score them but most of all I want to contribute to a successful team.

    “I don’t want to talk about my skill - that is for other people to judge. However, I know my quality and when I am fit I am not afraid of a challenge.

    “I don’t know a lot about Manchester because I have only been once but I am looking forward to seeing the city and meeting the fans and getting to know everyone at the club.”

    The hitman clearly offers Mancini a different option as a target man par excellence, cannot wait to get started.
  • bitemebiiitchbitemebiiitch I don't bite. PExer
    Christ on a bike, what a muppet. :lol: If you really know football, you must know full well not to believe everything what the papers say. Just look at that, no quotes all journo bs to sell papers. :lol: What did I expect, carry on with your usual delusion and obsession, official man utd accountant. :)
  • TheCitizenTheCitizen Banned by Admin PExer
    Ah i see, you're still on the denial stage.
  • bitemebiiitchbitemebiiitch I don't bite. PExer
    Denial stage, sure. :lol: Please, by all means, continue. :)
  • TheCitizenTheCitizen Banned by Admin PExer
    Of course, every failed signings are just plain rumors.:lol:
  • kaboom_mitkaboom_mit i kill trolls for breakfast PExer
    hahahaha told ya! someone will...

    here's a news for you


    This is how it feels to be city,
    This is how it feels to be small,
    This is how it feels when your team wins nothing at all,
    Nothing at all,
    Nothing at all,
    Nothing at all…..
  • TheCitizenTheCitizen Banned by Admin PExer
    Whether you like it or not, This City team will win trophies.
  • crocopiecrocopie Luis Suarez No. 7 PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Star Sports is dumb. They should have shown Man United vs. Man City on the weekend.
  • bitemebiiitchbitemebiiitch I don't bite. PExer
    Everyone knows that, it's inevitable. We're just openly mocking you with your usual delusions, obsession with utd, muppetry and trolling. :)

    Ok let's not turn this into one of those threads. Next! :D
  • crocopiecrocopie Luis Suarez No. 7 PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    But enough of your silly little rivalry. Let's talk about myself, Si?

    Oh, Suarez, he scor-ez, for Liverpool-ez! Aihihihihihihi!
  • phillophillo Nunca Caminar?s Solo PExer
    thought I'd wrongly clicked on the man city thread for a moment :)

    anyway back to something totally random, checkout Daniel Aggers awesome tattoo work. This must have hurt...

  • robertbrian23robertbrian23 Member PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Talagang compilation yan ah. Won't bother reading it since man utd is a top club and every writer/gossip they will include those names to our club but our club has higher standards and we have an existing system that works and won trophies city is just starting... I mean mancini is just starting to use his own system with the players he thinks that is capable of.

    We are MAN UTD. You are just city....

    Do the talking in the pitch tomorrow that post absurb media transder rumours lol

    Captain charisma posted is a factual money figures of the revenue of the clubs!!! So where is man city it is in no mans land lol
  • CaptainCharismaCaptainCharisma Moderator PEx Moderator
    ^ they're actually #11, but without oil money, who knows where they'll be, who knows, maybe Citizen won't even exist :rotflmao: its all about the money, in tagalog... you know ;)

    here's other awesome works of art


    Say hello to Manchester City fan Kirk Bradley. He’s 25 years old (hmmm, really? looks more like 35 to me) and he closely resembles a malnourished Fabien Barthez. He’s also from Birmingham - so Man City’s recruitment of plastic fans is coming along nicely.

    Check out Kirk’s new tattoo. Yes, that is the Champions League trophy inked on his right gun, accompanied with the legend “Manchester City 2011 Champions League Winners”.

    Krazy Kirk expains his tat: “While I was in the pub one night I was saying how I thought we’d win the Champions League next season and my friend turned to me and said ‘If you’re so sure why don’t you have it tattooed?’

    “He was obviously joking, so you can imagine his face when I turned around and said ‘OK then!’”

    He who laughs last laughs loudest, thought Kirk, not realising that when the laughter has died down, the tattoo would still be there.

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