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The FIFA/Coca-Cola World Rankings

CaptainCharismaCaptainCharisma Moderator PEx Moderator
http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/lastranking/gender=m/fullranking.html

so we can stay updated with the rankings of our favorite teams and of course the Azkals

Jan 11

1. Spain
2. Netherlands
3. Germany
4. Brazil
5. Argentina
6. England
7. Uruguay
8. Portugal
9. Croatia
10. Egypt
11. Greece
12. Norway
13. Russia
14. Italy
15. Chile
16. Ghana
17. Slovenia
18. USA
19. France
20. Slovakia

odd rankings to start the new year with, no surprises at the top, some nations are surprisingly flying high while there are powerhouses still trying to recover from their World Cup nightmare

unfortunately, we dropped in the latest rankings, (150 to 153) back to page 4 :(

here's how its calculated

http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/procedure/men.html

credit to the Azkals FB page

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and here's the schedule

http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/schedule/men.html
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Comments

  • renz_reggy03renz_reggy03 Moderator PExer
    We dropped in the rankings because we did not gain any point for the previous month,
    we lost in both countable matches (2010 AFF Suzuki Cup semis versus INA).

    Babawi rin ang Azkals natin! :D
  • tsong_gotsong_go WELL.... PExer
    Not much fanfare with Egypt, but they still manage to maintain their foothold on the top rankings year in year out. Impresib.
  • renz_reggy03renz_reggy03 Moderator PExer
    What are your predictions to how high will the Azkals peak this year? :)
  • spiderdudespiderdude Ultimate Spider-Fan PExer
    what is the ranking of the prev winner of the afc challenge cup?(prev rank to rank after the tourney)

    plus add the points from world cup qualifying
  • renz_reggy03renz_reggy03 Moderator PExer
    North Korea won the 2010 AFC Challenge Cup.
    Currently ranked 109th. Ranked 85th before the tournament.
    Dropped 102nd after:?: :eek:
  • BrimstoneBrimstone Member PExer
    North Korea won the 2010 AFC Challenge Cup.
    Currently ranked 109th. Ranked 85th before the tournament.
    Dropped 102nd after:?: :eek:
    Because AFC Challenge Cup matches are counted as 'friendlies'. Playing too many 'friendlies' can have a negative effect on your ranking.
  • CaptainCharismaCaptainCharisma Moderator PEx Moderator
    tsong_go wrote: »
    Not much fanfare with Egypt, but they still manage to maintain their foothold on the top rankings year in year out. Impresib.

    yeah but with only two World Cup Finals appearances (1934 - first African/Arab team to compete/ 1990) to boot with no victories, although they're the most successful team in Africa, they're not good enough for the world stage, they can't seem to qualify (4)year in year out :lol:
    What are your predictions to how high will the Azkals peak this year? :)

    hmm, maintaining a 140+ would be a realistic target, 130+ would be gravy, remaining in page 4 would be a step back

    hopefully we get results in the 2014 WC qualifiers
  • renz_reggy03renz_reggy03 Moderator PExer
    Brimstone wrote: »
    Because AFC Challenge Cup matches are counted as 'friendlies'. Playing too many 'friendlies' can have a negative effect on your ranking.

    They did win the cup, but you are right, ranking wise the matches were just 'friendlies'.
    I'm just shocked at how huge they dropped after the tournament.
    hmm, maintaining a 140+ would be a realistic target, 130+ would be gravy, remaining in page 4 would be a step back

    hopefully we get results in the 2014 WC qualifiers

    I also think 140+, realistically. But f the Azkals keep playing and winning, they might rank higher.
  • CaptainCharismaCaptainCharisma Moderator PEx Moderator
    They did win the cup, but you are right, ranking wise the matches were just 'friendlies'.
    I'm just shocked at how huge they dropped after the tournament.

    I also think 140+, realistically. But f the Azkals keep playing and winning, they might rank higher.

    actually we haven't been winning, lost in the euphoria of the Suzuki Cup run was that we only won 2 of 8 matches we had in the whole tournament, including the qualifiers, of course the Vietnam upset was the catalyst for the boom, the other victory against Timor Leste was a gimme, but truth is we failed to beat anybody else

    W D D D W D L L - not exactly great form but certainly marked improvement from previous standards

    what's most important is we've won a lot off the field, respect, attention, and the hearts of many Filipinos especially football fans *okay*
  • renz_reggy03renz_reggy03 Moderator PExer
    ^And by keep playing and winning, I mean in 2011. :glee:
    what's most important is we've won a lot off the field, respect, attention, and the hearts of many Filipinos especially football fans
    Agreed. And ranking-wise, as long as the team keeps climbing. :)
  • thescenethescene Member PExer
    I see the Netherlands Antilles are at 150. The country was actually dissolved a few months ago so I guess they should drop out of the rankings soon.
  • kiatkiat2kiatkiat2 Banned by Admin PExer
    ^^^

    Not necessarily. If they maintain their FA, they would remain in the rankings.

    Just like UK, they have four FAs, England, N. Ireland, Wales and Scotland.
  • nussnuss GAU PR PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    Brimstone wrote: »
    Because AFC Challenge Cup matches are counted as 'friendlies'. Playing too many 'friendlies' can have a negative effect on your ranking.

    how can too many friendlies hurt your rankings? i thought that was how USA did it back then that's why they were in the top ten pre-06 world cup?
  • krazykrazy Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    Don't forget that the Philppines jumped a big 19 spots back in 2008 after their wins in the AFC challenge cup (and was in fact biggest jump in Asia at that time) so if they do well this time we should see another similar jump, or even more if they win and qualify for the 2015 cup:D
  • thescenethescene Member PExer
    Looks like we will be losing points in the next update as our 2007 Tiger Cup draw with Myanmar is taken out of the calculations.
  • tsong_gotsong_go WELL.... PExer
    http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/news/newsid=1375147.html
    As expected, the AFC Asian Cup Qatar 2011 has had a significant impact on the latest edition of the FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking.

    There are no changes at the summit of the global ladder, but Japan (17th, up 12), who became continental champions for a fourth time in Doha, have re-entered the top 20 after an absence of almost five years. Fittingly, the Samurai Blue are now the highest-ranked Asian team as well as being the third team - after hosts Brazil and world champions Spain - to qualify for the FIFA Confederations Cup in 2013.

    Japan’s narrowly defeated opponents in the Qatar 2011 final, Australia (21st, up 5), as well as the losing semi-finalists Korea Republic (32nd, up 7) and this month’s highest climbers Uzbekistan (77th, up 31), have obtained their reward in terms of places and points. Other Asian teams on an upward trajectory include Iran (44th, up 21), Jordan (84th, up 23), Iraq (88th, up 10) and Qatar (90th, up 15).


    Meanwhile, we were up one, settling in at # 152. Ranking as of Feb 2 2011

    We. Need. More. Games. C'mon Azkals, Fiji at Ned. Antilles na lang ang nasa harap natin! :lol:

    And Egypt fell to 33(!) after hugging the #10 spot for quite some time.
  • fernando_hierrofernando_hierro Member PEx Expert 🎖️
    The rankings use a 4 year rolling data with different weights. Say the Feb 2011 rankings:
    Year 1 is Feb 2010 to Jan 2011, 100%
    Year 2 is Feb 2009 to Jan 2010, 50%
    Year 3 is Feb 2008 to Jan 2009, 30%
    Year 4 is Feb 2007 to Jan 2008, 20%

    For Mar 2011 Rankings
    Year 1 is Mar 2010 to Feb 2011, 100%
    Year 2 is Mar 2009 to Feb 2010, 50%
    Year 3 is Mar 2008 to Feb 2009, 30%
    Year 4 is Mar 2007 to Feb 2008, 20%

    You could lose world points by not playing because its rolling and you could move from Year 1 to Year 2 and therefore will use a lower weight.

    You could lose points by playing friendlies because if you dont get results ie draws or wins, your "Year Score" goes down because they take the average of your Match points. Take the case of the Azkals, they lost the semis to Indonesia. Thats 2 games with 0 points bringing the Year 1 average down.

    North Korea lost ground in the world rankings because of their poor showing in the World Cup Final. Thats 0 points in 3 matches.
  • fernando_hierrofernando_hierro Member PEx Expert 🎖️
    krazy wrote: »
    Don't forget that the Philppines jumped a big 19 spots back in 2008 after their wins in the AFC challenge cup (and was in fact biggest jump in Asia at that time) so if they do well this time we should see another similar jump, or even more if they win and qualify for the 2015 cup:D

    The eventual champions of the 2012 AFC Challenge Cup will qualify for the 2015 AFC Asian Nations Cup. But will the matches in the Challenge Cup be considered as "qualifying matches" for the Nations Cup? If it is, then it has a higher weight in terms of Match Importance, otherwise all matches will just be "friendlies".
  • fernando_hierrofernando_hierro Member PEx Expert 🎖️
    nuss wrote: »
    how can too many friendlies hurt your rankings? i thought that was how USA did it back then that's why they were in the top ten pre-06 world cup?

    Friendlies have 1.0 weight in Match Importance. Its the lowest.

    Playing many of them is not bad as long as you Win because a W has a weight of 3.0 in terms of Match Result..

    So that is better than a Draw in a World Cup or Continental qualifiers because a D has 1.0 weight in terms of Match Result even if the qualifiers have 2.5 weight.
  • krazykrazy Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    The eventual champions of the 2012 AFC Challenge Cup will qualify for the 2015 AFC Asian Nations Cup. But will the matches in the Challenge Cup be considered as "qualifying matches" for the Nations Cup? If it is, then it has a higher weight in terms of Match Importance, otherwise all matches will just be "friendlies".

    As the Challenge cup is essentially a backdoor qualification route for the "emerging countries" as defined by the AFC, they should be considered as "qualifying matches" for the Asian Cup and therefore have higher weight in terms of match importance.

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