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Pagsasanay, Binhisipan, at Pooksapot Hinggil sa Pag-aaruga (Nursing)

jay08jay08 PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
edited March 25 in Pinoy Careers
Pagsasanay, Binhisipan, at Pooksapot Hinggil sa Pag-aaruga (Nursing)
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Pagnagtraining ka ba sa isang hospital na binayaran mo or nagvolunteer ka lang is it counted as a clinical experience na pede mo ilagay sa resume mo? kase for eg sa canada and some countries they require you to have "paid experience" wherein you get paid for the job you did not paying for the job you need.

I'm thinking kase if it was a mere training lang parang much better if you use the money for other pertinent trainings like dialysis training.
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  • It really depends on the standards set by your employer.

    As far as I know most does not consider "volunteering" as actual experience.
  • nikkilovenikkilove PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Let me just add, that it also depends on the visa that will be used for your application. For the US, an H1B allows volunteer work or a year of paid experience, to be safe, so it'll just depend on your employer if they'll require more than this, but your employer should hire a good immigration lawyer to be approved through this visa.

    Eb3 visa requires at least 2 years of paid experience, but the backlog is now 3 years, so more or less an employer would not use this.

    An Eb2 is current, but you'd need five years of paid/employed experience for this or a US master's degree equivalent of the profession. So you can take a master's if you're not currently employed, or employed in another profession, but make sure the school's master's program is approved by the US or it'll be all for nothing.

    Canada, yes it has to be paid work for at least a year and currently employed upon application for their visa.
  • jay08jay08 PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    eb3 3 years backlog? is this correct? kase nakita ko sa dyaryo na their processing PD of june 2002.
  • nikkilove wrote: »
    An Eb2 is current, but you'd need five years of paid/employed experience for this or a US master's degree equivalent of the profession. So you can take a master's if you're not currently employed, or employed in another profession, but make sure the school's master's program is approved by the US or it'll be all for nothing.

    nikkilove, so meaning pwede po mag-masters while waiting for employment? fresh grad po ko and recent board passer, and i dont think i can land a local nursing job anytime soon :mecry:, so going back to school seems to be an alternative.

    tanong lang po kung pano malalaman kung US-approved ang isang master's program? at M.A.N. lang po ba ang credited? thanks!
  • nikkilovenikkilove PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    ^ Either you call the CGFNS or the top universities offering a master's degree in nursing dyan sa Pinas to confirm. It's really tricky kasi it depends sa USCIS if they'll approve the master's, since wala pakong nakikitang naaprove through master's na galing sa Pinas, kasi this EB2 is something which was just recently discovered by Filipinos and their employers.

    Yung 5 years, it's guaranteed, dahil may mga nakita na kaming pumasa through this. Pero since ang nakalagay is either/or sa clause ng master's degree, we are just assuming na pwede ang master's.

    ^^Yung EB3 naman, depende pala kasi kung when ka pala nafile, kung 2005 or 2006 mas maaga ang PD mo. hehe. Sorry, dapat pala date based ang sinabi ko. Pero yung nga still, di nato option ng mga employers whose petitions are still outside the US, dahil antagal bago sila makuha unlike yung mga andito na sa states na kasi they can just continue employment gamit yung Eb3 kahit di pa approved ang GC.
  • nikkilovenikkilove PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    brrrrr!!! wrote: »
    nikkilove, so meaning pwede po mag-masters while waiting for employment? fresh grad po ko and recent board passer, and i dont think i can land a local nursing job anytime soon :mecry:, so going back to school seems to be an alternative.

    tanong lang po kung pano malalaman kung US-approved ang isang master's program? at M.A.N. lang po ba ang credited? thanks!

    Siguro, experience is still the best, kahit ano so long related sa profession, pwedeng school nurse or company nurse.

    in Canada, they accept kahit anong related na practice for their immigrant visa, like med rep, med trans, health insurance processing. At the same time makakaipon ka pa for the processing fee, tyaga lang kapatid, kami din inabot ng five years bago nakaalis. darating din yan. importante mag work ka lang.
  • jay08jay08 PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    nikkilove wrote: »
    ^ Either you call the CGFNS or the top universities offering a master's degree in nursing dyan sa Pinas to confirm. It's really tricky kasi it depends sa USCIS if they'll approve the master's, since wala pakong nakikitang naaprove through master's na galing sa Pinas, kasi this EB2 is something which was just recently discovered by Filipinos and their employers.

    Yung 5 years, it's guaranteed, dahil may mga nakita na kaming pumasa through this. Pero since ang nakalagay is either/or sa clause ng master's degree, we are just assuming na pwede ang master's.

    ^^Yung EB3 naman, depende pala kasi kung when ka pala nafile, kung 2005 or 2006 mas maaga ang PD mo. hehe. Sorry, dapat pala date based ang sinabi ko. Pero yung nga still, di nato option ng mga employers whose petitions are still outside the US, dahil antagal bago sila makuha unlike yung mga andito na sa states na kasi they can just continue employment gamit yung Eb3 kahit di pa approved ang GC.

    you mean to say mas madali iprocess and eb3 pang ang pinepetition ng employer ay nasa states? how does this work?
  • nikkilovenikkilove PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    not necessarily mas madali, pero mas napapakinabangan ka na kasi ng employer mo. kahit di pa lumalabas ang green card mo, since andito ka na, may certain certificate na ibibigay sayo na renewable para maging legal ang stay mo dito sa US while waiting for your PD, so tuloy ang work mo. Ginagamit to usually ng mga naka working visa.
  • jay08jay08 PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    ok i understand. how h1b visas madali lang ba makakuha pag nandyan ka na sa us or adjust from toursit to h1b?
  • nikkilovenikkilove PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    H1B was open for 8 months, since April this year. sobrang konti ng nagapply halos di maubos ubos ang 60 thou na slots. samantalang dati one day lang closed na ang H1B. Wala kasing offer sa IT and other professions kaya di nagagamit ang slots, mostly PTs, OTs and Medtechs ang nakinabang kaya influx sila ngayon dito.

    The problem is, I think, with H1B di sya applicable sa nurses. di sya nagagamit generally ng employers to file for working application sa nurses kasi di ata sya kasama sa list of job offers under H1B (not sure). pero ang alam ko may ibang nakakalusot, paginiba ata ang job offer or title. kaya sabi ko sa taas dapat magaling yung immigration lawyer na kukunin ng employer mo.
  • nikkilovenikkilove PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Regardless of whether adyan ka sa Pinas or sa US ka na, the same ang magiging processing ng H1B. parang ang hirap na andito ka sa US. Pag nadeny ka, uuwi ka or mageextend ka ng visa mo ang aappeal ka which will take months to process. Unless na may panggastos ka talaga, why not? pero kung limited ang budget, the most prudent is to stay muna sa Pinas while waiting. it depends din sa kakayanan mo.
  • sa new zealand counted ang volunteer, experience sa health center, at pagCCI as expereicne
  • piQuAnTpiQuAnT PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    Hi nikkilove! dami ko natututunan sa posts mo! anyways, sorry medyo clueless lang ako how to go about having a priority date (for those applying for immigrant visas)--for EBs we need to find an employer who will petition us right? Did I understand it correctly...na for EB3 kelangan we have a paid working experience to qualify?

    I am only in the process of sitting for the NCLEX exam, no IELTS, no visascreen yet. I dont know the next steps... pakisabi naman in a nutshell. Thanks soo much!!
  • piQuAnTpiQuAnT PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    jay08 wrote: »
    ok i understand. how h1b visas madali lang ba makakuha pag nandyan ka na sa us or adjust from toursit to h1b?

    Plan ko ren sana ito..yung mag AOS (Adjustment of status) na lang. I only have a tourist visa kaya lang sabi nila even the AOS affected daw ng retrogression.

    Sa H1B naman kelangan sa special areas nagwork/may special qualifications etc. Pero since according to nikkilove...only those with good immigration lawyers nakakalusot dito..mukang mahirap, besides..fresh board passer pa lang ako and no volunteer/paid working experience to speak of..
  • nikkilovenikkilove PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Hi piQuant, yes,

    EB3, is an immigrant visa which requires a minimum of 2 years of paid experience in an employment setting. Kelangan sa hospital or industrial setting ka. Kaso ilang taon ang backlog nito, so kung ifafile ka ngayon baka mga 4-5 years pa bago ka mainterview at makaalis. Kaya di ito gagamitin ng employers kasi matagal bago ka nila makuha.

    EB2 is current, open sya, so ilang buwan lang makakaalis ka na after ipetition ka ng employer mo, kaso mas mahigpit to, minimum of five years continuous paid experience in a hospital or industrial setting, or an equivalent of a master's degree, na dapat aprubado ng US ang program and school.
  • nikkilovenikkilove PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    You really have to get everything done na as if you're to be petitioned from Pinas, Nclex, IELTS and visa screen. Mas ok na talaga na if you're ready with the basic requirements para di frustrating na everytime kakausapin mo ka, itu turn down ka ng employer mo coz of lack of requirements..
  • piQuAnTpiQuAnT PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    hi nikkilove! thanks! yun nga ! kelangan ko nga daw talaga lahat ng yon! :) hayy!! teka what about priority dates? diba yun yung kapag nafile na ang I-140 mo? meaning may pending petition ng employer. all along i thought na kapag youre done with nclex,ielts,visascreen ....the employers will start the petition process....kelangan pala magkaron na ako ng 2-3yrs work experience....
  • jay08jay08 PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    kailangan ba ng ielts for US? and visascreen? nde ko masyadong gets yung process. lets say natapos ko na ang nclex and wala pa akong experience, i can look for hospitals and apply para ma petition ako?
  • nikkilovenikkilove PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    kelangan ng visa screen and an english exam para maifile ka ng kahit anong visa na work related or immigrant dito sa US.

    di ko masyadong nakuha yung question mo, are you saying if you applied in the US hospital? like you're a tourist here and then sila mag pepetition sayo. Di rin po, kahit andito na kayo sa US, you'd still undergo the process na as if you're in the Philippines, kasi immigrant visa ang appilcable sa nurses. Di tulad ng ibang profession na since legally they're under H1B, pwede ng isabay ang filing ng immigrant nila. Medyo unfair, pero it's their law.
  • nikkilovenikkilove PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Canada is really the next option since, open ang immigrant nila. Medyo matagal ka nga lang din magaantay mga 3 years pero, mas sigurado, andami kong nakitang nurses na nakapasok sa Canada na di nagpractice ng nursing like med reps, or caregivers ang inapplyan, pero they're there na.
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