Relationship in between two Religions (Catholic - Iglesia)

Is there any PExer who experienced the same thing?

Just to share, I am a Catholic and she is part of Iglesia ni Cristo, and we are having deals in terms of this conflict between us. I courted her and we seemed to get along but the problem still is our religion.

She asked me if I am willing to convert, but i declined. Currently, we are in "MU" stage wherein the feeling is mutual and we're both great, but it's just the religion.

According to their religion, they must ONLY have relationship inside their religion, and if she would disobey such, bad luck and other stuffs would come. Is there any other way for us to be able to cope up with such problem?

And hey, we're just 18 years old.

Thanks. *okay*
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  • JUST_JTJUST_JT Banned by Admin PExer
    Is there any PExer who experienced the same thing?

    Just to share, I am a Catholic and she is part of Iglesia ni Cristo, and we are having deals in terms of this conflict between us. I courted her and we seemed to get along but the problem still is our religion.

    She asked me if I am willing to convert, but i declined. Currently, we are in "MU" stage wherein the feeling is mutual and we're both great, but it's just the religion.

    According to their religion, they must ONLY have relationship inside their religion, and if she would disobey such, bad luck and other stuffs would come. Is there any other way for us to be able to cope up with such problem?

    And hey, we're just 18 years old.

    Thanks. *okay*

    Walang mararating ang relation ninyo - kalimutan mo na siya.

    -Just_JT
    It's.that.simple.
  • DarkSwan_xivDarkSwan_xiv Member PExer
    I am a Catholic and I had a boyfriend from the INC. Our relationship lasted for two years. I never told him that I am going to convert myself, but I did join him in their "samba" once in a while. His parents were also very nice towards me even if they know that I am a Catholic. We separated, but its not because of our religion.

    I believe that you can cope up with this problem. Talk about it. My ex boyfriend and I talked about it a lot. Stick with what you believe in, but hear her out as well. You two are so young. Don't rush things. Just enjoy your relationship.

    Good luck!
  • blue_tracerblue_tracer soundscapes PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    dito pa natapat ang longest relationship ko.. it lasted for 5+ years before we decided to end it up (2003). religion was one of the major issues.

    im a catholic and she was an INC. we were constantly happy.. both of us tried to give everything we could. well.. except that. love was never a problem. it's just that when it came to that issue neither one of us would give way.

    dati 'napapaso' kasi kami pareho everytime we touch that topic.. so instead spent na lang namin ang time ng maayos kaysa mag debate pa.

    it was a very difficult time. it took me almost 2 months to convince myself that the time has finally come to end it up, a week to compose a 'breakup' line, 2 text messages to 'pre-condition' her mind, and a 2-hour long distance call to eventually deliver the lines.

    this i've noticed.. pag catholic ang na-match sa ibang religions like born again, JIL, adventist, etc. mukhang sa huli nagagawan pa rin minsan ng solution via negotiations.. pero pag ka sa INC na.. ang hirap. lalu pa't clashed talaga ang paniniwala ng dalawa.

    ldr na kami sa last 2 years.. pero bago yun, same location kami sa 1st 3 years namin.. she tried. once 'nagsimba' siya sa catholic mass.. di actually simba eh.. parang sumilip lang siya ng ilang minutes. para daw siya nasusunog (hardcore INC kasi siya since birth). i also tried.. attended their 'samba' as a guest about 2 times.

    opinion lang, pag mababaw pa lang.. ok lang yan kahit anong religion ninyo. pag seryosohan na masyado doon na nagiging issue ang difference ng religion ninyo.

    siguro, bago kayo mag seryoso kung magkaiba religion ninyo, pagusapan/discuss na extensively ang issue. para magkaalaman na kaagad sa posisyon. malaman kung sino ang hindi puwede mag give way at kung sino ang puwede. mahirap tulugan lang ang issue, tapos biglang late na pala.

    para kasing may isang tao na since grade school pa lang sa arts na talaga ang inclination at passion niya.. ok nag tapos ng fine arts/architecture. tapos ngayon para lang mag 'match' kayo gusto mo kumuha siya bigla ng law or engineering? :lol: at maging ganyan siya for the rest of his/her life? definitely not an easy thing to do.


    goodie lak na lang sa mga nasa ganyang katayuan ngayon.. :)
  • tilmantilman Happily married PExer
    Grow up and don't let religion dictate who you are allowed to love
  • lawyer's wifelawyer's wife Member PExer
    I experienced this.. Bagong Christian pa lang ako that time (Victory) then one of my closest friends introduced us, he's INC..

    Una, firm ako na ayoko, I am happy with what I believe in. Pero na-inlove ako, then niyaya magpakasal. Since "die hard" siya sa religion niya at ako ang babae, I gave in.

    Somewhere along our relationship mas nakilala ko yung pagkatao niya.. to cut the story short, nagkamali ako ng decision to gave up my belief. Malapit na ako baptize nuon when I found out he cheated on me. After that, wala ng kasal. Most importantly, bumalik ako sa paniniwala ko. Pinagsisihan ko na dahil sa tao pinagpalit ko (pansamantala) ang paniniwala ko though I know God wanted me to learn something from it and I did.

    Ngayon masaya ako sa taong inihanda ng Panginoon sa akin.

    TS, pag-isipan mo. It's either ikaw o siya ang magsacrifice ng paniniwala. Pero sabi mo buong pamilya (?) niya INC, baka mahirapan ka...

    Whatever your decision, sana maging masaya ka :)
  • rax06rax06 Member PExer
    mahirap talaga malagay sa ganyang sitwasyon. I myself is a member of INC. ganito kasi consequence for us if ever mapasok kami sa ganitong sitwasyon:
    bawal sa amin makipag relasyon ng hindi kapareho ng paniniwala. pag mahuli man kami, maraming mga church official ang magpapayo sa amin na putulin ang relasyon o di kaya ipaconvert ang iyong partner na maging INC. Pag di ka pa rin susunod sa payo eh tiyak aalisin ka na bilang membro ng simbahan. Pag nabuntis o nakabuntis ka eh pareho pa rin kahihinatnan.
    so ganito, babae o lalaki, nasa kanila lang yan, lahat kami alam namin anong consequence ang aming matatanggap sa mga ginagawa namin.
    Kung nahihirapan ang Catholic, pati rin kami, ang same goes to other religion.
    Ako i have a non INC gf before, yes andun yung love, im always cool and open minded with it comes to religions debate. I dont talk regarding that matter at iniiwasan ko yang topic pag magkasama kami ng ex ko, enjoy and cherish the moment when we were together. but i told her that im solid with my decision that i'll never convert to her religion early pa lang.
    sakin naman kasi when the time comes na ready na ako to settle down, it will be up to her if she would convert to my religion and have me as a loving husband for the rest of her life, or lose me and both of us will find another partners again. we broke up but because of other matters not religion.
    I have nothing against any religion, just want to share my point of view as a member of INC.
  • intsik siomaiintsik siomai Member PExer
    You're both considered Christians and you cannot agree on your philosophies?:D

    Sa Catholic, Jesus is god, you need faith plus good works and follow 10 commandments. Sa Iglesia, Jesus is just a man, a great man, and god is different. But both religions believe in Heaven and Hell. *Do these ideas really bother you??? :confused:

    Iisa lang bible nyo, di kayo magkasundo sa interpretation? If you can't agree to disagree on these things, what more if you get married??
  • kreukkreuk amishuuu PExer
    ^^^ i think Iglesia ni Christo has a strict policy of marrying only from within their circle... and the followers have been bombarded this idea since childhood. on a second note... they are literally booted out of th church i think if they betrayed their religion. so it always happens... it's the catholic Christians who change religion... mapa Muslim or Iglesia or Adventist... it's the Catholics who adapt.
  • solitary.crosssolitary.cross Member PExer
    THANKS FOR YOUR REPLIES :)


    we're hooked for more than a year now and in that span of time we've experienced a roller-coaster situation and whenever we'll be touching this issue, we would tend to give a distance between.

    he already had a catholic ex-boyfriend, and their relationship only lasted for less than 2 months for things did not worked out, and what she said she couldn't keep things with her family and her religion. after that relationship, i could consider her to be a "die-hard" member of the InC.

    the only thing that bothers her is that she don't want to give me a chance because she don't want to be separated from me. i know for a fact that even if we can hook ourself in a relationship, we wouldn't last.

    She's already been hurt because of this religion thing, we can't get closer because of that gap between us. She couldn't go out with me often because of her church duties, and she couldn't say "yes" to me for she is afraid of the consequences.




    intsik siomai, we've talked about the religious differences and it doesn't matter much. we're both studying in UST, taking up theology courses which i think some of the teachings are against theirs. but it doesn't matter to us both, we tend to understand each other's faith.


    rax06, same, i declined to convert for it is darn too early for us to decide on such matter.


    lawyer's wife, i already declined to be converted. heck, i even said that it's early for us to decide on such. i am prepared to face the consequences maybe the time we're going to decide on our marriage but this early?


    tilman, if only she could understand.


    blue_tracer, wow good for you. Yes, we've been trying to plan to observe each other's religion. the simba and samba thing. Are you in a legal relationship? we couldn't hook ourself in a commitment just because of religion, although we're acting as if we are in a commitment, though not legal, and not in a real commitment.


    DarkSwan_xiv, i can't really push myself to convert, even if i love her, maybe in time, but not now.


    JUST_JT, haha! just what my humanities professor told me. :lol:
  • JUST_JTJUST_JT Banned by Admin PExer

    JUST_JT, haha! just what my humanities professor told me. :lol:

    Your Humanities professor is a wise man! :)

    -Just_JT
    Takes.wisdom.to.know.when.it's.time.to.cut.one's.losses.
  • chatin_12chatin_12 Member PExer
    my fathers die 1 year ago the my mother is a roman catholic then she meet a new guy na iglesia ni cristo.
    alam nyo ba na napwersa nya ang mother ko na sumali sa religion nila na halos lahat kami ay sagradong cathoko
    keso daw matitiwlag daw *** guy pagnakipagrelasyon *** sa SANLIBUTAN na iyon ay catholico..\
    kaya etong ***** kong nanay nagpaconvert
    masyadong matatalino ang iglesia....
    my pera kc ang nanay ko kaya ayaw nya halos pakawalan
    take note my mother is 48 and he was 35... ang kapal diba:grrr:
  • amiloproamilopro Member PExer
    Is there any PExer who experienced the same thing?

    Just to share, I am a Catholic and she is part of Iglesia ni Cristo, and we are having deals in terms of this conflict between us. I courted her and we seemed to get along but the problem still is our religion.

    She asked me if I am willing to convert, but i declined. Currently, we are in "MU" stage wherein the feeling is mutual and we're both great, but it's just the religion.

    According to their religion, they must ONLY have relationship inside their religion, and if she would disobey such, bad luck and other stuffs would come. Is there any other way for us to be able to cope up with such problem?

    And hey, we're just 18 years old.

    Thanks. *okay*

    weird religion. Anyway kung ako rin nasa position mo hihiwalayan ko na siya. I'm not religious and if a girl asks me to go to church every sunday malamang hihiwalayan ko din XD
  • solitary.crosssolitary.cross Member PExer
    amilopro wrote: »
    weird religion. Anyway kung ako rin nasa position mo hihiwalayan ko na siya. I'm not religious and if a girl asks me to go to church every sunday malamang hihiwalayan ko din XD

    If this is the case, hindi ko pa din alam kung ano sasabihin kong line for her. sigh.
  • solitary.crosssolitary.cross Member PExer
    chatin_12 wrote: »
    my fathers die 1 year ago the my mother is a roman catholic then she meet a new guy na iglesia ni cristo.
    alam nyo ba na napwersa nya ang mother ko na sumali sa religion nila na halos lahat kami ay sagradong cathoko
    keso daw matitiwlag daw *** guy pagnakipagrelasyon *** sa SANLIBUTAN na iyon ay catholico..\
    kaya etong ***** kong nanay nagpaconvert
    masyadong matatalino ang iglesia....
    my pera kc ang nanay ko kaya ayaw nya halos pakawalan
    take note my mother is 48 and he was 35... ang kapal diba:grrr:

    I don't know about their religion but I really find it weird to have such belief in what you implied as something "salvation is in InC" thing.

    I have nothing against them, but I find it weird.

    She even told me a principle that once a girl fell in love outside their religion, once committed into a relationship, bad luck will come into the side of the guy, or to the other outside their faith.
  • hicorthicort Member PExer
    Isang mahalagang bagay sa INC na ang mapapangasawa ng isang member nila ay kapwa din member nila. Pag di ka sumunod tiwalag ka.

    Yung INC member na may ka MU ( manliligaw o nililgawan at nanliligaw sa taga labas ) ay isang paraan ng pag rerecruit nila kaya di man sila magkatuluyan ay bale wala sa kanila. True love na masasabi kung titiwalag sila (INC) at pakakasal sa di nila ka iglisia.
  • blue_tracerblue_tracer soundscapes PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    tumira ako dati sa isang boarding house (dito sa working place ko) na puro INC. ako lang ang catholic. mababait sila at naging barkada ko pa doon ang isa na nasa US na ngayon.

    i have nothing against them. yun lang napansin ko, sa teaching nila pag hindi ka kasama sa INC wala ka nang chance na 'masalba'. bale lahat ng 'sanlibutan' out na. correct if im wrong.

    opinion ko lang, sobrang liit ng chance na tumalikod ang isang INC member nang dahil lang sa pag ibig. malakas/tight paniniwala nila talaga.
  • amiloproamilopro Member PExer
    If this is the case, hindi ko pa din alam kung ano sasabihin kong line for her. sigh.

    close naman ata kayo diba? Just tell her that you dont feel that you have such a great connection and you live in different worlds. Tell her that you love her as she is regardless of religion and all you want is for her to love you for who you are regardless of religion too. Pga ayaw pa rin nya then just call it off na kasi incompatible kayo :)
  • Luvh3artLuvh3art Super Junior / EunHae ♥ PExer
    mejo nakarelate ako dito..my ex is also INC and i'm a catholic..once or twice namen napagusapan yung bout sa religion namen..i told him na parang ang hirap sa religion nila, especially in my case na catholic since birth, kasi andaming restrictions at maraming hindi pwedeng icelebrate like Christmas which is my favorite season of the year..yun pa lang parang hindi ko kayang i-give up yung hindi mag celebrate ng pasko..then he asked me kung anong pipiliin ko..magcelebrate ng xmas without him or having him but i won't celebrate xmas..sa madaling salita it's between him or xmas..ngumiti lang ako, shempre d ako nakasagot becoz dat time mejo bago pa lang kame..

    but as time pass by, lumalim yung feelings ko for him..during our relationship d naman naging issue samen yung religion kasi nga bihira lang mapagusapan..nanjan yung paminsan minsan nababanggit nya na magsamba daw ako sa kanila..pero di naman natutuloy..

    until d day came when we broke up..actually it's not a religion issue..it's another story..he broke up with me 2 days before xmas..i was so devastated..sobrang mahal ko na sya dat time pero wala akong magawa..andun yung feeling na hindi ko kayang mawala sya saken..dat time hindi talaga ako nakapag celebrate ng xmas..hindi ko nafeel yung spirit ng xmas..then i remember yung pinag usapan namen before..dun ko nalaman yung sagot sa tanong nya saken dati..mas hindi ko pala kayang mawala sya..

    i know this is really lame..but now naisip ko willing na kong magpaconvert for him..but d sad thing is it was too late..:(

    well we have our own beliefs..i know merong makakaintindi saken at merong magtataas ng kilay..i just want to share my story and thoughts regarding this issue which i have experienced..
  • ~Golliwog~Golliwog Bann?d by Adm?n 3x ♫ PExer
    Totoo bang hiwalay umupo sa misa ng Iglesia ang mga lalaki sa babae? Para daw madaling makita ni Manalo yung mga balak niyang totnakin. :rotflmao:
  • revned000revned000 Member PExer
    chatin_12 wrote: »
    my fathers die 1 year ago the my mother is a roman catholic then she meet a new guy na iglesia ni cristo.
    alam nyo ba na napwersa nya ang mother ko na sumali sa religion nila na halos lahat kami ay sagradong cathoko
    keso daw matitiwlag daw *** guy pagnakipagrelasyon *** sa SANLIBUTAN na iyon ay catholico..\
    kaya etong ***** kong nanay nagpaconvert
    masyadong matatalino ang iglesia....
    my pera kc ang nanay ko kaya ayaw nya halos pakawalan
    take note my mother is 48 and he was 35... ang kapal diba:grrr:

    hey.. try to listen in the INC teachings and compare it to Catholic's and you'll know then why your mother joined us in INC. :)

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