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i read this tread here at pex about celeb urban legends and something caught my attention bout rizal, it really astoned and surprise me although im not quite sure kung paniniwalaan ko but its really interesting, so i put on this tread bout history mga events and people from the past mga conspiracies and controversies what so ever....please share nyo namn and please wag kau gawagawa plss present some proofs like links etc...so kung meron kau jan share namn...
pedi local and international

http://www.joserizal.ph/fa03.html


Adolf Rizal (and his Half Brother, Rizal Zedong)
Manuel L. Quezon III, Saturday, September 17, 1994
Here is the craziest thing I’ve heard (and I’ve heard it more than once, at parties): Adolf Hitler was really the illegitimate son of Jose Rizal. Here is the second craziest thing I’ve heard: Mao Zedong was actually Rizal’s illegitimate son. Two variations, I suppose, on the idea that "Yes, the Filipino Can!"

Sadly, I found the two theories so funny that I never thought of asking the people who told them to me to explain on what grounds they based their claim about Der Fuehrer and the Great Helmsman. A dentistry student friend from UE has also heard these fanciful theories, but it also did not occur to him to ask on what evidence these fanciful claims were based. So I did a little research to find out how people could make up such a story.

The claim that Adolf Hitler was Rizal’s progeny must be based on the following facts:
·

Adolf Hitler was born on April 20, 1889 (that means he could have been conceived sometime in August 1888), in the little village of Braunau, near the German- Austrian border.
· He was born an Austrian and remained one until the 1930s.
· The name of Hitler mother was Klara Polz.
· At one time she was a maid in Vienna.
· Hitler always considers a town Linz, in Austria, as his hometown (in his Political Testament he referred to " my hometown of Linz on the Danube").
· Hitler's oldest brother, Gustav born on May 17, 1885, and his sister Ida, born in 1886, both died before he was born.
· Bavaria was considered the "cradle" of Nazism.
· The Nazis made Japan one of the Axis powers. At one point they tried to prove that the Japanese were Aryans, to make the Japanese members of the "master race."
Now combine the above information with the following, culled from the life of Rizal:

· On February 1, 1886, he left Paris for Germany. He went to Heidelberg, Wilhelmsfeld, Munich (in Bavaria), all somewhat near a German–Austrian border; on August 9, 1886 he left for Leipzig ("visiting various German cities along the way," one book says), arriving there on August 14. In October he went to Dresden and then to Berlin.
· In Berlin he finished Noli Me Tangere. One of the book’s characters is named Maria Clara.
· On May 11, 1887, Rizal began his Grand Tour of Europe. He went to Dresden, Teschen (now Decin in the former Czechoslovakia), Prague, and then Brunn (where he lost a diamond stickpin), and Vienna (where he got back his diamond stickpin, which was found by maid in the hotel he stayed in Brunn) in Austria.
· On May 24, 1887, he left Vienna by riverboat to see sights on the Danube River (on the boat he saw paper napkins for the first time). His voyage ended at Linz.
· From Linz he went to Munich (where Hitler attempted a putsch in 1923) and Nuremberg (site of the Nazi Party rallies and the War Crimes trials), and other German cities.
· Rizal was in the German Empire, sometimes past the German-Austrian border, from February 1886 until he went to Switzerland in early June 1887.
· Rizal was again in Europe from May 24, 1888, until October 18, 1891. He was in London, Paris, Brussels, Madrid, Biarritz, Ghent. He was in Europe during the time Hitler was conceived and when he was born.
· Rizal in 1888 had an affair with a Japanese woman, Seiko Usui, when he visited Japan. She had an only daughter, Yuriko, by a foreign husband some years after her encounter with Rizal. Yuriko later married the son of a Japanese politician.
Put all these information together and you may be able to conclude the following: Hitler was conceived either in 1887 when Rizal passed through Linz or other towns (such as Brunn - How do you think he lost the diamond stickpin? And who was the "maid" who found it later and gave it to Blumentritt who forwarded it to Vienna?) near the Austrian border. In which case Hitler’s older siblings were fictitious, to cover up his mother’s being pregnant with him. In other words, Hitler was actually born before 1889.

Or he was conceived in August 1888, when Rizal was supposedly in London. Or perhaps in September 1888, when Rizal went to Paris for a week (to have a rendezvous with Klara?). Maybe he went to Paris in 1889 so he could communicate more easily with the now-expecting Klara? Klara Polzl’s affair with Rizal may have centered around Linz, which is why the Hitler family moved there later (so Mama Hitler could live where she had An affair to Remember), which would explain Hitler’s fondness for the town.

Finally, Seiko Usui’s only daughter was not really fathered by her husband, Alfred Charlton. He was simply a front. Yuriko, you see, was Rizal’s daughter! And Hitler knew she was his half-sister. She used her influence on her brother Adolf to persuade him to enter into an alliance with Japan (making it one of the Axis powers). Which is why Japan invaded the Philippines!

Yuriko made it clear to Hirohito that Hitler would appreciate it if his ally were to take over his father’s homeland. And of course the reason why Hitler wanted to become dictator of Germany was because his natural father had spent some of the most interesting years of his life there!

That, I think, is the rationale behind such a fantastic claim based on information that can be gathered from any high school textbook on Rizal and any good biography of Adolf Hitler. Naturally, this can only be done through selective use of the evidence, but it does make for an amusing piece of historical fiction.

Now, as to the idea that Mao Zedong was also Rizal’s son. Unfortunately this claim cannot be supported by even the most spurious evidence. Mao Zedong was born in 1893, in Hunan Province, which you could say is kind of near Hong Kong. But at that time (1893), Rizal was in exile in Dapitan. Now it would have been possible for Rizal to scamper around Europe and get Klara pregnant without anybody noticing, but he couldn’t possibly have jumped into a boat and rowed to Hongkong without being caught. He did pass through Hong Kong in 1888 and 1891 but he never seems to have visited other parts of China (unless you count Xiamen and Macao). So there are no details that can be manipulated.

These exercises in foolishness prove how creative Filipinos can be. What other people would be able to make the bogus claim that one of their heroes fathered the man who almost turned Europe into a "howling wilderness" (to borrow from the instructions for the extermination of Samar by American forces at the turn of the century). That would have been poetic justice, I suppose. The brown man strikes back and all that sort of thing.

*okay**okay**okay**okay**okay*
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Comments

  • the_BuGsthe_BuGs d ko hilig PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    wala sara na tong "tread" na to... la wenta...

    *hik* hindi ko binasa ang buong post nya... 1st sentence pa lang nag type na ako sa quick reply :rotflmao: *hik*
  • ChaRLes_OZChaRLes_OZ my CA plate PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    the_BuGs wrote: »
    wala sara na tong "tread" na to... la wenta...

    *hik* hindi ko binasa ang buong post nya... 1st sentence pa lang nag type na ako sa quick reply :rotflmao: *hik*

    pag ka 'harsh' ba nimo ...

    why don't you give this guy a chance ... free speech tayo dito 'di ba?
  • the_BuGsthe_BuGs d ko hilig PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    ^ free speech? masyadon ng abuse na yan? free speech pero kelangan naman ng kaunting disiplina at hindi inaabuso.....
  • jed_allanjed_allan Sexual Intellectual PExer
    may disclaimer naman eh.siya mismo di naniniwala.cool ka lang.:lol:
  • -gelay--gelay- simple kinda life PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    the_BuGs wrote: »
    wala sara na tong "tread" na to... la wenta...

    *hik* hindi ko binasa ang buong post nya... 1st sentence pa lang nag type na ako sa quick reply :rotflmao: *hik*

    who died and made you the arbiter of what makes a great topic? :lol:

    the_BuGs wrote: »
    ^ free speech? masyadon ng abuse na yan? free speech pero kelangan naman ng kaunting disiplina at hindi inaabuso.....

    abuse for what reason?
  • ChaRLes_OZChaRLes_OZ my CA plate PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    the_BuGs wrote: »
    ^ free speech? masyadon ng abuse na yan? free speech pero kelangan naman ng kaunting disiplina at hindi inaabuso.....

    paano nga inabuso? ewan ...
    -gelay- wrote: »
    who died and made you the arbiter of what makes a great topic? :lol:


    abuse for what reason?

    i second the motion ...
  • crispascocrispasco Member PExer
    if ur not interested to share then its up to you....im only willing to listen to the people who are willing to share and completely open minded...so the_Bugz kung wla ka magawa, manahimik ka nalang..



    guys share naman kau oh...bout mga conspiracies in history o kahit anoano^^
  • bahamut_zerobahamut_zero chinito na moreno PEx Expert 🎖️
    Meron sa listverse.com, top 10 conspiracies sa histories, mysteries atbp. dami nga lang, hindi ko mapost lahat. :)

    In Philippine context, meron ba tayong ganon dito?
  • isabellA16isabellA16 kkkisess! :p PExer
    Marilyn Monroe's death.
    Cause of Ninoy Aquino's death.
  • sgsg Member PExer
    meron ako dati napanood sa discovery channel na fake daw un pagland ng man sa moon. parang pati US government nagconspire para sa cover up. ewan ko lang.
  • ^pusa^^pusa^ >>meow PExer
    disappearance ni Amelia Earhart
  • crispascocrispasco Member PExer
    amelia earhart yah ano ba tlaga s2ry non?
  • BeerhandBopBeerhandBop I Am WHIP PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Walls Of Text!!!!!
  • SirZapSirZap Storm Trooper PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    crispasco wrote: »
    i read this tread here at pex about celeb urban legends and something caught my attention bout rizal, it really astoned and surprise me although im not quite sure kung paniniwalaan ko but its really interesting, so i put on this tread bout history mga events and people from the past mga conspiracies and controversies what so ever....please share nyo namn and please wag kau gawagawa plss present some proofs like links etc...so kung meron kau jan share namn...
    pedi local and international

    http://www.joserizal.ph/fa03.html


    Adolf Rizal (and his Half Brother, Rizal Zedong)
    Manuel L. Quezon III, Saturday, September 17, 1994
    Here is the craziest thing I’ve heard (and I’ve heard it more than once, at parties): Adolf Hitler was really the illegitimate son of Jose Rizal. Here is the second craziest thing I’ve heard: Mao Zedong was actually Rizal’s illegitimate son. Two variations, I suppose, on the idea that "Yes, the Filipino Can!"

    ...

    These exercises in foolishness prove how creative Filipinos can be. What other people would be able to make the bogus claim that one of their heroes fathered the man who almost turned Europe into a "howling wilderness" (to borrow from the instructions for the extermination of Samar by American forces at the turn of the century). That would have been poetic justice, I suppose. The brown man strikes back and all that sort of thing.

    *okay**okay**okay**okay**okay*

    di ba may 1 pa? ysi jack the Ripper daw si Rizal :rotflmao:
  • black dahlia murder case:eek:
  • sgsg Member PExer
    black dahlia murder case:eek:

    kwento naman about this. please.
  • chevy_camaro23chevy_camaro23 favete linguis PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Off Topic:

    @TS

    avoid using text speaks.. (it's forbidden here at masakit sa ulo basahin) kaya marami nangba-bash sa'yo ;)

    just my two cents...

    now back to regular programming..
  • japimiljapimil Member PExer
    Sa mga sumerian daw mayroong 12 o 10 planeta??? Di ko na alam eh..Maraming nakatago sa History ng mga pyramid, at mga gods na sinasamba noon.Akala daw noong mga tao noon ay mga totoong gods sila pero sila lang ay mga aliens na gumagamit na
    Advance technology..
    Mapapansin din sa mga drawing ng sumerians ay may Spaceship...

    meron isang planeta na umiikot sa solar sytem mas malaki pa daw sa jupiter, pavertical yung pagikot niya sa sun....

    ito daw yung planet x nibiru..Minsan lang dumadaan malapit sa earth..Ang mga tao dun naman ay nagevolve sa mga reptiles.. tayo naman sa unggoy..

    Ang mga aliens daw sa Planet na ito ang lumikha sa atin. Sila daw ang nagexperiment ng evolution natin at religion,Ang god na sinsabi natin sa bible ay Pinuno ng mga Taga nibiru, kaya daw biglaan nalang daw nawala yung mga Homo erectus noon dahil pinatay sila para mag give way sa homo sapiens.......gumawa ng Bagong creature at tayo na yun..lol
    Sila la rin ang gumawa ng DNA natin....

    NAkakapagtaka bakit sobrang perpekto ng dna natin at kailangan natin tumanda.....

    Basta ganyan yung kwento nun........maniwala ka man o hindi ang masisiguro ko lang sayo ay ang mundong ito ay nababalot ng mysteryo...LOL...hehehe
  • sg wrote: »
    kwento naman about this. please.

    Artista siya nung 1920's na naging chop-chop victim. until now di pa alam sino ang tunay na pumatay sa kanya. anyway alam ko may movie about her eh...
  • lytblulytblu A Pexer since forever PExer
    ^ya si josh hartnett ang alam ko isa sa mga starring.

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