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VIGILANTEISM: the only way citizens can protect themselves

* despite government denials, there is an obvious rise in criminal activities in this country, ranging from petty crimes such as theft to big-time ones such as bank robberies and kidnapping.

* more and more lazy Filipinos resort to illicit activities, preying mostly on the hardworking middle class.

* the AFP and the PNP are way too inept to protect us, peace-loving and law-abiding citizens of this country, from criminals ranging from petty criminals to big-time syndicates to terrorist organizations like the CPP-NPA-NDF, the Abu Sayyaf, the MNLF and the MILF. even some members of the AFP and the PNP are, themselves, involved either directly or indirectly with criminals and terrorists.

* the government is not relaxing gun laws in this country, penalizing legitimate and RESPONSIBLE gun owners who could have protected themselves if only there are more liberal gun laws.

given those facts, i think it is time for peace-loving and law-abiding citizens of this country to put the law into their own hands and bond together and form vigilante groups in order to protect themselves and their communities from rogue elements of Philippine society.

vigilante groups should:

* pin-point each and every criminal, check on their background and have them killed instantly at any opportunity available;

* have the families and relatives of those criminals eliminated since they are the ones who benefited directly or indirectly from the products of illicit practices and will surely follow the footsteps of their criminal relative; and

* burn down communities where these criminals reside (e.g. if the criminal resides within Baseco and Parola, burn down portions of those places where he and his family lives; if the criminal resides inside Ayala Alabang, burn down the entire block where the criminal and his family lives) as a reminder that having a criminal and his family living within the community is hazardous to everyone.
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  • * burn down communities where these criminals reside (e.g. if the criminal resides within Baseco and Parola, burn down portions of those places where he and his family lives; if the criminal resides inside Ayala Alabang, burn down the entire block where the criminal and his family lives) as a reminder that having a criminal and his family living within the community is hazardous to everyone.
    Panalo to! :handsdown:
  • Aranda_BayAranda_Bay PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    Speaking of vigilantism:

    Two holdupers were shot dead a while ago in Buendia Makati as they attempted to rob a bank client who just withdrawn a huge amout of money. The holduppers were shot by armed escorts of the bank client that the holduppers weren't aware of. Athird suspect was injured and is now in custody. I don't know if the armed escorts were security personnel or just armed civilians escorting the bank client.
  • Aranda_Bay wrote: »
    Speaking of vigilantism:

    Two holdupers were shot dead a while ago in Buendia Makati as they attempted to rob a bank client who just withdrawn a huge amout of money. The holduppers were shot by armed escorts of the bank client that the holduppers weren't aware of. Athird suspect was injured and is now in custody. I don't know if the armed escorts were security personnel or just armed civilians escorting the bank client.

    kaya pala traffic sa Buendia kanina. ;)

    well, dapat ganyan palagi. pagpapatayin ang mga yan para madala at matakot ang mga tamad. idamay na din ang mga pamilya ng mga kriminal na yan at sunugin ang mga lugar kung saan sila matira.

    lintik lang ang walang ganti. *okay*
  • then you should support our God-given right to bear arms.

    we need a constitutional amendment for this.

    the problem here is, mini-civil wars between communities.

    i don' think we need vigilantism, just recognize the right of people to use lethal force to defend themselves from criminal attacks, that's all.
  • it is our God-given right to bear arms, Leviticus, but this government does not want to relax our gun laws and let legitimate and RESPONSIBLE gun owners protect themselves, their families and their properties/assets from criminals. instead, it is the legitimate and RESPONSIBLE gun owners who get penalized through useless regulations such as revocation of licenses to carry firearms, gun bans, etc.

    local authorities are already way too inept to protect peace-loving and law-abiding citizens of this country. capital punishment is still in suspension because of the relentless pressure of the hypocritical local Roman Catholic clergy and other "pro-life" groups. more and more lazy Filipinos resort to illicit activities and mostly prey on the lives and properties of hardworking middle-class Filipinos.

    we really have no choice but to put the law into our own hands and eliminate criminals as we protect ourselves, our families and our properties by forming vigilante groups.
  • our corrupt govt will prosecute and persecute those who form vigilante groups, even if they are only defending their families and communities from criminals.

    that is perhaps the number one problem.


    many Catholic clergy here, don't actually know the official teaching of the Magisterium about the death penalty, neither do many pro-life groups, please don't blame them.

    i believe our right to bear arms is the number one priority, the death penalty can come later.

    as for the vigilante groups, i'm a little squeamish about this. there are many details that have to considered before something like this can be done properly.
  • rhk111, after being robbed by those lazy [email protected] during your bus ride, do you now agree to the idea that we should form vigilante groups in order to crack down on those @ssholes who prey on hardworking and law-abiding citizens of this country? ;)
  • fennfenn PExer
    I think we should just emulate London and install the most extensive collection of CCTVs in the face of this planet.

    Each intersection, each strategic street corner, strategic center islands should have closed-circuit television monitors.

    Nanakawin ba? Replace them immediately. Then immediately haul the ***** of the ones responsible using footages from the other cameras.

    One thing we should learn in this country is to be ROBUST in our response to crime!

    CCTV is the way to go!

    And enough of all this "ang mahal" mentality. If that gets the job done, invest on it!
  • CCTV cameras? naku po! uulan ng reklamo sa Konsumisyon of Human Rights for "human rights violations" and "violation of right to privacy" kapag ginawa mo yan. alam mo naman na para sa Konsumisyon of Human Rights, may human rights ang mga rebelde, mga terorista at mga kriminal pero ang mga pulis, mga sundalo at hardworking and law-abiding citizens ay walang human rights. :rolleyes:

    isa pa, what's the use of the CCTV cameras kung inutil naman ang PNP pagdating sa pagresponde sa mga tawag? balewala din yan.

    talagang dapat dumanak na ang dugo para matakot ang mga tamad na yan. these criminals and their families should be liquidated and the communities where they live burned down in order to teach them a lesson. vigilantism is the only way to protect ourselves from these lazy [email protected] given the incompetence of the PNP to protect us.
  • Ginagamit lang ang CCTV camera kung meron prayer meeting against the administration.
  • BeerhandBopBeerhandBop PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    lol vigilanteism... did you watch the dark knight? didn't you see what happened to the mask vigilate posing as batman?

    Joker tortured his @$$ that's what happened.


    WHy so Serious?
  • crocopiecrocopie PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    * have the families and relatives of those criminals eliminated since they are the ones who benefited directly or indirectly from the products of illicit practices and will surely follow the footsteps of their criminal relative; and
    well, dapat ganyan palagi. pagpapatayin ang mga yan para madala at matakot ang mga tamad. idamay na din ang mga pamilya ng mga kriminal na yan at sunugin ang mga lugar kung saan sila matira.

    Paano kung kamag-anak mo ang nahuli ng mga vigilanteng iyan, okay lang na mapatay ka nila, kahit wala kang kasalanan?
    * burn down communities where these criminals reside (e.g. if the criminal resides within Baseco and Parola, burn down portions of those places where he and his family lives; if the criminal resides inside Ayala Alabang, burn down the entire block where the criminal and his family lives) as a reminder that having a criminal and his family living within the community is hazardous to everyone.

    At pag nadamay ang mga inosenteng homeowners na nadamay sa pagsusunog, babayaran sila ni Bahay_Kubo! Yehey!

    But dont' get me wrong. I favor gun rights. Why should law-abiding citizens be forbidden to bear arms when criminals could easily obtain one? But for TS, he doesn't need a gun, he needs a straitjacket.
  • vigillanteism: i agree about the thought of it, but, some of the process i don't agree with.

    if the criminal is caught red handed in doing the crime? i'll probably agree with the v-word.
  • starczamorastarczamora Sissie DaToic PEx Moderator
    Sana i-apply ang vigilantism sa mga kurakot sa gobyerno.
  • Sana i-apply ang vigilantism sa mga kurakot sa gobyerno.

    Excellent point!
  • Bahay_Kubo wrote: »
    rhk111, after being robbed by those lazy [email protected] during your bus ride, do you now agree to the idea that we should form vigilante groups in order to crack down on those @ssholes who prey on hardworking and law-abiding citizens of this country? ;)

    I would love to. But, you know, what if you get caught by 'da pulis?' We all know those [email protected]@rds only try to look for ways to make money. So they will catch you, unless prior arrangements are made.

    Vigilantism also could result in abuse of power / power tripping, or tragic mistakes, like innocent people could be killed.

    I think a good model of vigilantism, would be no other than Davao city, where Duterte rules almost like a warlord, with a private army of vigilantes dispensing their own kind of justice.

    Davao is a relatively safe place, with a lot of the scum of the earth there having met the devil already in hell. But, there are also cases of abuse of power on the part of Duterte.

    So for me, although I do think about it, I am also realistic enough to know the problems of such a setup.

    As for the holdup, if that [email protected]@rd shot anybody in the bus, I would really have been more enthusiastic about the idea of getting back at those [email protected]@rds using vigilantism. Fortunately or unfortunately, it hadn't reached that level. Yet.
  • rhk111 wrote: »
    I would love to. But, you know, what if you get caught by 'da pulis?' We all know those [email protected]@rds only try to look for ways to make money. So they will catch you, unless prior arrangements are made.

    .

    eh di isama din kung sinong haharang-harang. dapat talaga merong vigilante sa republika nating walang kadala-dala
  • AleanceloAleancelo guapo PEx Expert 🎖️
    During the Marcos era, the government formed this semi-vigilante group called "Secret Marshalls." This group was given shoot-to-kill orders and operated independently from the Philippine Constabulary (led by FVR) and the Metropolitan Police Force (headed by General Prospero Olivas). They were fielded in jeepneys, buses, shantytowns and commercial areas where robberies were very rampant. No one was spared from the guns of the Secret Marshalls. Suspects who were out on bail, ex-convicts, or even plainly tattooed bums were fair game. Killings even happened during daytime and only Cardinal Sin condemned those vigilante acts. It gained enough public support (at that time, the nation was grieving for the assassination of Ninoy Aquino). It became effective but the group was abolished when the Marcoses were deposed in 1986. Until now, the members of the group remain anonymous. Hey, who knows? The guy sitting next to you in the bus could be a former Secret Marshall.
  • As for the holdup, if that [email protected]@rd shot anybody in the bus, I would really have been more enthusiastic about the idea of getting back at those [email protected]@rds using vigilantism. Fortunately or unfortunately, it hadn't reached that level. Yet.

    well sir, i suggest to think about it now so next time this happens, you'll know how to react quickly. your story gave me a better insight on this issue.
  • Aleancelo: Yeah, I believe your Secret Marshalls are deployed today as well. They're called "ISAFP". lol! Gloria use these resources for political reasons only or if you're on her bad side.
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