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ЅUX2B?ЅUX2B? El Verdadero Guayabero PExer
Instead of just "continuing the tradition of 100% passing", why not start producing more pharmacists?

I wouldn't say that 10/10 is really good because 70/90 is way way better for a developing country like the Philippines which is experiencing brain drain.

:)
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  • borlogsborlogs Member PExer
    ^why not? if the government would start allocating more budget to UP then it could produce more graduates. :D
  • filial_pietyfilial_piety action_star PExer
    partida na yan konti na nga lang ang nag-take na taga UP-Manila and yet na-dominate pa nila always ang board exams!!!, ayan ang magaling!!!
  • KirkegaardKirkegaard Member PExer
    Pharmaboi wrote: »
    5-year Pharmacy course Versus 4-year Pharmacy course. Congrats sa lahat ng mga pumasa.

    UPM College of Pharmacy actually offers two degree programs, the 4-year BS Pharmacy and the 5-year BS Industrial Pharmacy. I believe the bulk of examinees belong to the former.


    @SUX2BU
    It would surely benefit the country if UP, or any other state U for that matter, could produce more pharmacists. However, since the government's allocation is limited, UP could not just churn out professionals, it had to concentrate on making leaders of the profession instead.
  • philippines123philippines123 Banned by Admin PExer
    ЅUX2B? wrote: »
    Instead of just "continuing the tradition of 100% passing", why not start producing more pharmacists?

    I wouldn't say that 10/10 is really good because 70/90 is way way better for a developing country like the Philippines which is experiencing brain drain.

    :)




    As you know, UP is a state U and it can not afford to accommodate and subsidize many students... hire more profs and give them highly competitive pay, add more classrooms and laboratories and lab equipment... plus if there are only few students who take UPCAT and choose Pharmacy as their course, what can UP do? If this is not what the High School honor grads want to take up in college, can UP convince them to take up this course? The only thing that UP can do is to refer grads who were not admitted to the course they want to pursue to other courses having some openings.
  • ЅUX2B?ЅUX2B? El Verdadero Guayabero PExer
    Sa klaseng kakapiranggot lang ang bilang ng mga mag-aaral ay marapat lang at dapat lang na gumaling nga ang kakapiranggot na mga mag-aaral na 'yun.

    'Yan ang partida.

    :)
  • letsrockandrollletsrockandroll Pexer since '05 PExer
    haha, UP AND UST again.
  • KirkegaardKirkegaard Member PExer
    ЅUX2B? wrote: »
    Sa klaseng kakapiranggot lang ang bilang ng mga mag-aaral ay marapat lang at dapat lang na gumaling nga ang kakapiranggot na mga mag-aaral na 'yun.

    'Yan ang partida.

    :)

    Go make me Jump, jump! but licensure exams are not competitions, at least for us. So what does partida have to do with this? :lol:
  • philippines123philippines123 Banned by Admin PExer
    ЅUX2B? wrote: »
    Sa klaseng kakapiranggot lang ang bilang ng mga mag-aaral ay marapat lang at dapat lang na gumaling nga ang kakapiranggot na mga mag-aaral na 'yun.

    'Yan ang partida.

    :)



    Kahit konti o marami sila, walang duda na magagaling ang mga UP grads. Kayang kaya nilang ipasa ang exam. In fact, kahit saans skwelahan sila mag-aral, kaya nilang pumasa sa board.


    Di ko lang maintindihan, meron talagang ibang skwelahan kung saan saan jan na ang dinidiscuss na nga sa klase hanggang review e ang mga posibleng lumabas sa board exam (take not, mismong Prof ng U** nagsabing wag ng pag-aralan yan dahil di naman lalabas yan sa board)... e hindi pa rin maka-100% passing sa board exam.

    Sa ganitong paraan ng pagtuturo at resulta ng board exam, tunay ngang sayang lang ang ibinabayad ng mga estudyante sa ganitong klase ng paaralan/pamantasan.



    Binabati ko ang mga pumasa ng Pharmacy Board.
  • ЅUX2B?ЅUX2B? El Verdadero Guayabero PExer
    Ngayong may 300% patong na sa twisyon ay dapat mas marami at hindi lang kakapiranggot na pharmacists ang iluluwal ng up-manila. Aba, kailangan sila ng bansa.

    :)
  • _SCUD__SCUD_ Banned by Admin PExer
    At hindi lang yan, sabayan sana nila ng serbisyo sa bayan ang paghingi ng dagdag sa kanilang pondo.

    Kung mas maraming pharmacist na manggagaling ng UP-Manila, mas maraming magsisilbi sa bayan, na dapat lang naman nilang suklian dahil pinondohan sila ng gobyerno.

    Sa 100% na passing rate, sigurado ako 100% din sa kanila may damdaming makabayan. Pero ilan porsyento kaya ang maglilingkod sa bansa?
    :)
  • Shinobi No KamiShinobi No Kami Sandaime Hokage PExer
    Mission

    The UPCP constantly strive to become the outstanding and relevant institution of higher learning in the pharmaceutical sciences by providing the highest quality of instruction, professional training, basic and applied research and community service.

    link
    Kahit konti o marami sila, walang duda na magagaling ang mga UP grads. Kayang kaya nilang ipasa ang exam. In fact, kahit saans skwelahan sila mag-aral, kaya nilang pumasa sa board.


    Di ko lang maintindihan, meron talagang ibang skwelahan kung saan saan jan na ang dinidiscuss na nga sa klase hanggang review e ang mga posibleng lumabas sa board exam (take not, mismong Prof ng U** nagsabing wag ng pag-aralan yan dahil di naman lalabas yan sa board)... e hindi pa rin maka-100% passing sa board exam.

    Sa ganitong paraan ng pagtuturo at resulta ng board exam, tunay ngang sayang lang ang ibinabayad ng mga estudyante sa ganitong klase ng paaralan/pamantasan.
    Kailangan daw kasi ng bansa.:lol: Quantity ata target nila.

    Who do you think has the higher chance of finding a cure for AIDS: a large group of mediocre researchers or a small group of brilliant researchers?
  • ЅUX2B?ЅUX2B? El Verdadero Guayabero PExer
    _SCUD_ wrote: »
    At hindi lang yan, sabayan sana nila ng serbisyo sa bayan ang paghingi ng dagdag sa kanilang pondo.

    Kung mas maraming pharmacist na manggagaling ng UP-Manila, mas maraming magsisilbi sa bayan, na dapat lang naman nilang suklian dahil pinondohan sila ng gobyerno.

    Sa 100% na passing rate, sigurado ako 100% din sa kanila may damdaming makabayan. Pero ilan porsyento kaya ang maglilingkod sa bansa?:)

    'Yan ang napaka-gandang tanong. Sana naman ay paglingkuran at unahin ang bansa. Kailangan sila ng bansa. At dapat dumami sila't hindi lang kakapiranggot.

    *okay*
  • philippines123philippines123 Banned by Admin PExer
    ^^^

    I think UPM is producing the right no. of grads per course per year. 300% increase will go to facilities improvement and other operating expenditures, research fundings, and employees' compensation. This is better I guess. Kawawa naman kase ang mga loyal na employees na sumusweldo doon na mas maliit pa kesa sa mga fresh grads, saka yung mga UPM grads na may magagandang research proposals pero inaamag lang sa library dahil hindi mapondohan. If everything is fine, maybe more grads can be produced.

    Saka maliit lang ang lupang sakop ng UPM... baka di rin kayanin magdagdag ng additional classrooms for additonal students. Unless palalyasin na nila nag Supreme Court/DOJ/NBI don (I guess UPM na lupa talaga yun e). Kahit yung NBI na lang, mga bayaran lang naman sila e, hehehehhe...
  • _SCUD__SCUD_ Banned by Admin PExer
    ^^^

    I think UPM is producing the right no. of grads per course per year. 300% increase will go to facilities improvement and other operating expenditures, research fundings, and employees' compensation. This is better I guess. Kawawa naman kase ang mga loyal na employees na sumusweldo doon na mas maliit pa kesa sa mga fresh grads, saka yung mga UPM grads na may magagandang research proposals pero inaamag lang sa library dahil hindi mapondohan. If everything is fine, maybe more grads can be produced.

    Saka maliit lang ang lupang sakop ng UPM... baka di rin kayanin magdagdag ng additional classrooms for additonal students. Unless palalyasin na nila nag Supreme Court/DOJ/NBI don (I guess UPM na lupa talaga yun e). Kahit yung NBI na lang, mga bayaran lang naman sila e, hehehehhe...

    Pero ito ang tanong, aprubado ka ba na kailangan maglingkod ang mga State and College University graduates na gaya ng UP grads na maglingkod ng at least 2 yrs sa Pilipinas bago isipin ang sarili at kumita ng limpak-limpak na salapi?

    Sayang naman kung ang kanilang ipinagmamalaking RESEARCH ay hindi gagamitin sa paglilingkod sa bansa at tila bagang ginamit lang para makapasa sa kanilang post gradweyts stadis. Self serving kumbaga.
  • Shinobi No KamiShinobi No Kami Sandaime Hokage PExer
    _SCUD_ wrote: »
    Pero ito ang tanong, aprubado ka ba na kailangan maglingkod ang mga State and College University graduates na gaya ng UP grads na maglingkod ng at least 2 yrs sa Pilipinas bago isipin ang sarili at kumita ng limpak-limpak na salapi?

    Sayang naman kung ang kanilang ipinagmamalaking RESEARCH ay hindi gagamitin sa paglilingkod sa bansa at tila bagang ginamit lang para makapasa sa kanilang post gradweyts stadis. Self serving kumbaga.
    I think that should be encouraged but not made mandatory. There are many ways to serve the nation aside from working in the Philippines right after graduation. Sabi nga nang isang UP professor : "OK lang na mag-abroad kaagad. Basta 'pag big time na kayo, invest in the Philippines.". One more thing, the ICT industry in the Philippines is not as developed as the first world countries. Eh, kung yung field na interested ka eh walang ganun sa Pilipinas? Sasayangin mo ba yung pinag-aralan mo at magpapakabayani dito o maghahanap ng suitable na trabaho abroad? Think out of the box, that's what UP grads do.
  • KirkegaardKirkegaard Member PExer
    You see these people here flip-flopping, Jump,jump!-ing from one issue to another just so they'll have something to hurl at UP! Hilarious! :lol:

    @SCUD
    No, I don't think the government should require SCU graduates to stay and work in the country. In the first place, education is part of the social services the government owe the people. Remember tha SCU students, and their parents for that matter, are taxpayers too.

    Second, we cannot make them stay in the country knowing that we do not have jobs for them. In other words, without job vacancies available, we will be merely wasting their education. You are assuming that there are jobs available for them when there are none.

    Third, your proposal would necessarily hinder on people's freedoms - a constitutional right lest we forget. You cannot just shackle somebody from leaving the country absent a legal action against them that would prohibit them from going abroad or other issues leading to the same effect.

    That said, it all boils down to nationalism and social conscience - that UP so hopes to inculcate in its students. As to how successful the State U is in this regard, I cannot give an answer.
  • DacsDacs Bummed bу Αdmin ✭✭✭
    Kirkegaard wrote: »
    That said, it all boils down to nationalism and social conscience - that UP so hopes to inculcate in its students. As to how successful the State U is in this regard, I cannot give an answer.
    Isipin mo, di lang naman graduates ng mga State U's ang may responsibilidad na pangalagaan ang bansa natin.

    Lahat tayo. Mapa UP, Ateneo o UST graduate ka pa.

    Dapat sa atin manggaling ang pagkakaroon ng kusa na isipin ang kapakanan ng ating bansa. Hindi mainam na ipagpipilitan ng pamahalaan ang ganito sa tao.
  • _SCUD__SCUD_ Banned by Admin PExer
    Kirkegaard wrote: »
    You see these people here flip-flopping, Jump,jump!-ing from one issue to another just so they'll have something to hurl at UP! Hilarious! :lol:

    @SCUD
    No, I don't think the government should require SCU graduates to stay and work in the country. In the first place, education is part of the social services the government owe the people. Remember tha SCU students, and their parents for that matter, are taxpayers too.

    Second, we cannot make them stay in the country knowing that we do not have jobs for them. In other words, without job vacancies available, we will be merely wasting their education. You are assuming that there are jobs available for them when there are none.

    Third, your proposal would necessarily hinder on people's freedoms - a constitutional right lest we forget. You cannot just shackle somebody from leaving the country absent a legal action against them that would prohibit them from going abroad or other issues leading to the same effect.

    That said, it all boils down to nationalism and social conscience - that UP so hopes to inculcate in its students. As to how successful the State U is in this regard, I cannot give an answer.

    Ah ganun ba? Wala bang trabaho ang mga Pharmacists sa Pilipinas kaya kailangan lumayas agad? Aba teka lang, parang napakabilis magbago ng hangin, nung mga estudyante pa lang eh nag-aalab ang damdaming makabayan, pero nung makapasa sa board exam nagkukumahog makalabas ng bansa. Para saan nga pala ang hinihingi nyong pondo? Para madagdagan ang mga Pharmacists 'ikanyo, yun naman pala wala namang trabaho ayon na rin sa inyo. Hindi ba't isang malaking "DUH!"

    Pabor ako sa dagdag na pondo para sa mga SUC's, hindi lang sa UP. Mas mabuti pang gamitin ang buwis na binabayaran ko para makapagprodyus ng matatalino at maaangas na estudyanteng siyento porsiyento ang passing sa board exam. Kalabisan ba na humingi rin ang mga taxpayers ng kapalit na 2 taon man lang na serbisyo sa bayan? Aba'y huwag naman puro kabig, tumulak naman kayo.

    Pagsilbihan nyo muna ang mga pinoy na nangangailangan ng gamot, pleaseee lang kahit 2 taon. May opening ang Mercury Drug sa Quiapo, 24 oras na bukas yun
  • ЅUX2B?ЅUX2B? El Verdadero Guayabero PExer
    Tama ka, _SCUD_, na kailangang pagsilbihan muna ang inang bayan lalo na ng mga pinag-aral ng mga nagbabayad ng buwis. Dapat gayahin ang ginagawa ng DOST na marapat lamang pagsilbihan muna ang Pinas bago mag-kumahog na mangibang bayan.

    Tulad nga ng sabi ko mas maganda lalo kung hindi lang sila kakapiranggot na nagsasabing magagaling raw sila. Hindi nga ba't mas kailangan ng ating inang bayan ang mas marami pang "magagaling?" At kung lalo pa nga silang dumami ay mas mapagsilbihan talaga ang sambayanang Filipino ng mabilis at walang mintis, at hindi na kailan pa man masasabihan ang Mercury na "ang gamot ay laging bagal."

    :)
  • kiko17kiko17 Member PExer
    so ano na nga yung tungkol sa result ng board exam? or social responsibility at nationalism na ang topic? LOL

    sana yung mga ala sa pinas, e wag mag-preach about serving the country eklavu, kasi may tawag dun....hypocrisy.

    besides mga ate at kuya, there are ways to serve your country other than physically staying in the country. sa tinanda nating ito, siguro naman alam na nating lahat yun diba?

    oh well.
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