Jesus or Siddharta Gautama

Excerpts from the Buddha, His Life and Teachings:

When the pain of travail came upon her, four pure-minded angels fo the great Brahma held out a golden net to receive the babe, who came forth from her right side like the rising sun bright and perfect.

The Brahma-angels took the child and placing him before the mogher said: "Rejoice, O queen, a mighty son has been born unto thee."

At her couch stood an aged woman imploring the heavens to bless the
child. All the world were flodded with light. The blind received their sight
by longing to see the coming glory of the Lord; the deaf and dumb spoke
with one another of the good omens indicating the birth of the Buddha to
be. The crooked became straight; the lame walked. All prisoners were
freed from their chains and the fires of all the hells were extinguished.


No clouds gathered in the skies and the polluted streams became clear,
whilst celestial music rang through the air and the angels rejoiced with
gladness. With no selfish or partial joy but for the sake of the law they
rejoiced, for creation engulfed the ocean of pain was now to obtain release.
The cries of beasts were hushed; all malevolent being received a loving
heart, and peace reigned on earth.

Mara, the evil one, alone was grieved and rejoiced not.


For this son of thine will rule the world.
The wheel of empire will come to him.
He will either be a king of kings to govern all the lands of the earth, or verily will become a Buddha.
He is born for the sake of everything that lives.
His pure teaching will be like the shore that receives the shipwrecked.
His power of meditation will be like a cool lake;
and all creatures parched with the drought of lust may freely drink thererof.
On the fire of covetousness he will cause the cloud of his mercy to rise, so that the rain of the law may extinguish it.
The heavy gates of despondecy will he open,
and give deliverance to all creatures ensnared in the self-entwined meshes of folly and ignorance.
The king of the law has come forth to reascue from bondage all the poor, the miserable, the helpless.

I do not worhip Brahma, but I worship this child; and the gods in the
temples will descend from their places of honor to adore him
. Banish
all anxiety and doubt. The spiritual omens manifested indicated that
THE CHILD NOW BORN WILL BRING DELIVERANCE TO THE WHOLE WORLD.

Just like Jesus who is not unique after all.

Now, why pick Jesus instead of Buddha?
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  • crocopiecrocopie Luis Suarez No. 7 PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Because Jesus could offer eternal life and Buddha cannot.
  • rickymrickym Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    have you checked if jesus can do as he claims?
  • SamLowrySamLowry James Randian PExer
    crocopie wrote: »
    Because Jesus could offer eternal life and Buddha cannot.

    Jesus, meek and mild, also brought eternal damnation and hellfire for the unbeliever. You don't have to be evil.... just an unbeliever to be deemed deserving of eternal torture. but he loves us.
  • Frank_MackyFrank_Macky Heretic / Infidel PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    ^ Jesus brought eternal life all right. You will live forever... in HELL. :lol:
  • eastereaster Pinoy PExer
    First of all Jesus is alive! He has risen! The others are just dead.

    Jesus gives eternal life. Others nothing or provides lots of heavy burdens to people and thereby distort the notion of how to go to heaven.
  • SamLowrySamLowry James Randian PExer
    easter wrote: »
    First of all Jesus is alive! He has risen! The others are just dead.

    Jesus gives eternal life. Others nothing or provides lots of heavy burdens to people and thereby distort the notion of how to go to heaven.

    evidence? other gods are claimed to have risen from the dead as well.
  • eastereaster Pinoy PExer
    Are they with historical basis? Jesus and the Bible has volominous historical sources unrivalled by others.
  • Boxing JudgeBoxing Judge Member PExer
    What is the historical proof of Jesus' being the lone savior of mankind?
  • Boxing JudgeBoxing Judge Member PExer
    easter wrote: »
    First of all Jesus is alive! He has risen! The others are just dead.

    Jesus gives eternal life. Others nothing or provides lots of heavy burdens to people and thereby distort the notion of how to go to heaven.

    Bible teachings are distorted as well. Distorted na nga ang bible mismo, lalo pang ididistort ng mga believers nito.
  • rickymrickym Member PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    its like having two suitors, one has so many claims one does not, do you believe the one with the most claims just to play safe?
  • SamLowrySamLowry James Randian PExer
    easter wrote: »
    Are they with historical basis? Jesus and the Bible has volominous historical sources unrivalled by others.


    Volluminous? do you have any eyewitness, contemporary accounts of the resurrection? I would love to see links please.

    the closest thing you have is the testimonium flavianum which is
    highly questionable and is widely viewed as corrupted by bible scholars.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus_on_Jesus#Testimonium_Flavianum


    Even the Bible isn't contemporary and have no eyewitness accounts and is very apparent when comparing the gospels to each other.

    what's well documented, if anything, is the ruckus the christians were causing during the next few centuries.... (it's like documenting the actions of mormons is not evidence for the claims of john smith)

    now, you may claim that the resurrection of jesus is such a small event so it's not mentioned by the historians when it happened...but lets see if they can ignore this bigger event:


    51At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook and the rocks split. 52The tombs broke open and the bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. 53They came out of the tombs, and after Jesus' resurrection they went into the holy city and appeared to many people.

    I'm still waiting... for years now for any explanation for why this can be ignored by historians or just anybody during jesus' time.

    dozens if not hundreds of dead people, raised from the dead, stood there for 3 days.... and then went home to their families and nobody seems to care about them. None of them preached of how they were resurrected and given a new chance, their families didn't say a word....

    The bible is a historical document?
  • Boxing JudgeBoxing Judge Member PExer
    Its not an historical document. Its a hysterical document. :lol:
  • eastereaster Pinoy PExer
    Hysterical Document?

    Aside from written historical sources, there are lots of evidence from archeology which supports the Bible.

    Even the largely liberal online publication Wikipedia lists of undisputed Biblical structures and artifacts:

    Confirmed Biblical structures
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_archaeology#Confirmed_Biblical_structures

    Artifacts not from excavations, but with undisputed provenance
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_archaeology#Artifacts_not_from_excavations.2C_but_with_undisputed_provenance

    Now if you want visuals, Bible Places has a list plus pictures which gives evidence to what you call as hysterical documents.

    Bible Places
    http://www.bibleplaces.com/
  • eastereaster Pinoy PExer
    SamLowry wrote: »
    the closest thing you have is the testimonium flavianum which is
    highly questionable and is widely viewed as corrupted by bible scholars.

    Josephus is corrupted? What to go in favor of Christianity? Josephus was a Jew? The mere fact the guy mentioned Jesus is already a testament that He was true since Jews like Josephus hate Jesus and His believers.

    I have been posting links to extra-biblical materials about Jesus for years here at PEX. Check this out once again!

    http://www.carm.org/bible/extrabiblical_accounts.htm
  • eastereaster Pinoy PExer
    double post
  • SamLowrySamLowry James Randian PExer
    easter wrote: »
    Josephus is corrupted? What to go in favor of Christianity? Josephus was a Jew? The mere fact the guy mentioned Jesus is already a testament that He was true since Jews like Josephus hate Jesus and His believers.

    I have been posting links to extra-biblical materials about Jesus for years here at PEX. Check this out once again!

    http://www.carm.org/bible/extrabiblical_accounts.htm

    1. The testimonium Flavianum speaks of Jesus' followers and their belief that he resurrected. Period.

    the forgery part only pertains to him accepting him as the christ. I think we agree on this.

    It's HEARSAY at best.

    On biblical locations:

    2. I've been to New York and trust me, the empire state building is real. I ate at Joe's Pizza too. No sign of Spider-man.
  • addiktaddikt ~DEATH GOD~ PExer
    Jesus, meek and mild, also brought eternal damnation and hellfire for the unbeliever. You don't have to be evil.... just an unbeliever to be deemed deserving of eternal torture. but he loves us.

    Jesus does not damn those who do not have a chance to believe...God will be the one to judge them...and if they followed the good in their hearts then they will be saved more likely than not...

    those who are unbelievers/do not want to believe/intentional sinners will take part in the eternal flames of hell.....
  • SamLowrySamLowry James Randian PExer
    addikt wrote: »
    Jesus does not damn those who do not have a chance to believe...God will be the one to judge them...and if they followed the good in their hearts then they will be saved more likely than not...

    those who are unbelievers/do not want to believe/intentional sinners will take part in the eternal flames of hell.....

    but he loves us, right?

    so much for omnibenevolence. you can be a pedophile, murderer or rapist and yet believe and ask for repentance and be spared of torture. when your only crime is use your brain and ask for evidence.... burn baby burn.

    why does jesus have such a huge ego that the only requirement he ultimately asks is for us to believe and worship him?
  • SamLowrySamLowry James Randian PExer
    FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO CHRISTIANS:

    God knows everything so before hand (Omnimax), so why create a world in which people will sin against HIM, and would then require to sacrifice HIMSELF to HIMSELF so sins would be forgiven.

    (Free will? there could be creatures that has free and yet will not sin/fall, why not choose to create that universe?)

    Out of the infinite number of possible creations, why choose to create an imperfect one... then punish us for our short-comings?

    Again, why is he so incompetent and punish us for it?
  • addiktaddikt ~DEATH GOD~ PExer
    you can be a pedophile, murderer or rapist and yet believe and ask for repentance and be spared of torture. when your only crime is use your brain and ask for evidence.... burn baby burn.

    why does jesus have such a huge ego that the only requirement he ultimately asks is for us to believe and worship him?

    typical born again church doctrine yun....diba alam mo naman affiliation ko Sam? pero sige try ko sagutin...

    Kahit anu kapa...kahit lahat ng babae sa tribu nyo natikman mo....kahit lahat na ng kalokohan at kasamaan nagawa mo...ang Dios lang ang hahatol sayo...sya bahala kung san ka lulugar


    kung wala ka sa totoong iglesia....ngayon kahit ubod ka ng sama....kung magsisisi ka...aanib sa tunay na iglesia...at magbabago...sigurado mapapatawad yung mga nagawa mo...at dapat e bumawi ka at gumawa na ng mabuti sa lahat....


    pero...kung [email protected] ka ulit....ayayay....

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